Leongatha Mushroom Deaths - VIC *Erin Patterson charged with 3 counts of murder & 2 attempts

[Irma]

Not to mention she didn't actually go to the tip closest to home, but when to an alternative tip.

That’s not quite true. It’s 12 minutes to the Koonwarra tip, and 14 minutes to the one at Korumburra, so she did choose the closest one. Most people I know in Leongatha use the Koonwarra one, mainly because it has longer opening hours, whereas Korumburra is only open half days, so that made sense to me.

ETA: just checked, if we’re talking disposal on either the Saturday or the Sunday, Korumburra doesn’t open til 12 midday, whereas Koonwarra opens 10am. So if you’re keen to get rid of something asap, Koony is the go.

 

[maggiethecat]

It was a bit weird when Erin was sobbing and she wiped her eye, then looked at her fingers to presumably check if there was any tears.

She ended up in hospital too for a night apparently and which was kept from the public for a while but I'm not sure when, if it was after she was alerted to everyone else getting so sick or around the same time.

I thought she was checking for eye boogers

 

[BFew]

Inspired by the William Tyrrell's Foster Mother's hand abrasions, the Daily Mail has today conjured up Knucklegate.

Eerie detail in photo of mushroom cook that no one noticed until now

A strange detail on mushroom chef Erin Patterson's hands shows two injuries to the middle finger of her right hand, a cut below the knuckle and an abrasion on the finger's nail bed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Kurve]

I thought she was checking for eye boogers

She might have been. When I was watching it, going through my mind at the time was that this might end up being one for our Crocodile Tears thread.

 

[mrskafoops]

My preliminary thoughts after watching Under Investigation - were the 4 victims together anywhere earlier in the day. Also, for someone to have premeditated a potential mass murder, there would be something else in her history (besides the ex husbands tummy issue that he went to hospital for). Women who poison don’t go from zero to mass murder. They have a history…. IMO.

 

[BFew]

I've retitled this: six things we already knew about the mushroom poisoning.

Six things we know about the Leongatha mushroom poisoning

Numerous questions remain unanswered as the Victorian town of Leongatha grapples with the deaths of three people and the hospitalisation of another after a family lunch – but some facts have emerged.

www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au

 

[BFew]

Potential parallels between this Mushrooms Murders case and the Searching for Spiderman (William Tyrell) case.

If forensic testing shows that poisonous mushrooms in the Beef Wellington leftovers provided for testing, don't match the toxins found in the living and deceased victims.

And it is eventually revealed that William Tyrrell was never wearing a Spiderman suit at the time he disappeared.

 

[Irma]

 

[metic]

 

[metic]

"A police suspect over the three death cap mushroom fatalities was convicted of five serious charges after a high-speed drunken rampage at the wheel of an unregistered vehicle, fleeing the scene of the historical crash."

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/poisoning-suspect-erin-patterson-convicted-five-times-for-highspeed-drunken-rampage/news-story/c3199f79afb93bc40f96f1295b290536

paywalled news article.

 

[Kurve]

19 years ago 2004.

The convictions handed down by the Dandenong Magistrates Court on September 7, 2004, were for charges of failing to stop a vehicle after an accident, failing to provide identifying information after causing property damage, using an unregistered vehicle on a highway, failing to provide information after property damage, and driving at 95 km/h in a restricted 60 km/h zone.

Notably, a charge related to her blood alcohol level of 0.14 per cent was dropped, potentially due to overlapping elements in other charges.

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/mushroom-chef-erin-pattersons-drunken-rampage-uncovered/news-story/9b5d9ae1c2b6ddac3e45eaf2b0d75a07

 

[craffles]

Police mustn’t have shit. Would have been an arrest by now.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Police mustn’t have s**t. Would have been an arrest by now.

I think I saw it written the testing on the hydrater (not sure of spelling) would take 8 weeks.

That’s a pretty crucial piece of evidence.

 

[FrankGrimes]

Police mustn’t have s**t. Would have been an arrest by now.

They would be waiting for toxicology reports etc.. Going to be a tough case to prove also.

 

[Awakening]

They would be waiting for toxicology reports etc.. Going to be a tough case to prove also.

I imagine it would be hard to prove that she intentionally killed them. Unless she’s written down her plans or discussed them with someone. Also what’s her motive?

 

[craffles]

Yeah I guess so, keeping an open mind though but surely we have the resources to expedite testing etc when it involves 3 deaths? Is the 4th man still in hospital?

 

[geoffjennings79]

Living Island had evil mushrooms, but Biosecurity Australia have managed to keep them out... until now?

 

[Big_Birdy]

Yeah I guess so, keeping an open mind though but surely we have the resources to expedite testing etc when it involves 3 deaths? Is the 4th man still in hospital?

I guess that depends on how the tests are carried out.

If the actual test takes a single day and the 8 week timeframe is due to backlog, I agree.

If the test itself should take 8 weeks then any attempt to expedite the process could make the test results cannon fodder for the defence.

 

[craffles]

I guess that depends on how the tests are carried out.

If the actual test takes a single day and the 8 week timeframe is due to backlog, I agree.

If the test itself should take 8 weeks then any attempt to expedite the process could make the test results cannon fodder for the defence.

Excellent point. Play on

 

[Irma]

Breaking news just on tv tonight is that the family of the Pastor, Ian Wilkinson, have said he was released from hospital yesterday. Hopefully we will get to hear his side to the story soon.

 

[Irma]

Archive link to full story

Leongatha mushroom poisoning victim Ian Wilkinson released from hospital​

Pastor Ian Wilkinson, the lone survivor of an ill-fated lunch that allegedly killed three others, has returned home after spending close to two months in hospital.

Mushroom poisoning victim Ian Wilkinson has been released from hospital and is making “significant progress” in his recovery, it has been announced.
A statement issued on Saturday on behalf of the 68-year-old’s family said Mr Wilkinson had been discharged from Melbourne’s Austin Hospital
The homicide squad is investigating the deaths of three people, also poisoned eating the beef Wellington served by Erin Patterson at her Leongatha home in July.
The recovery of Mr Wilkinson, a Korumburra church pastor, has the potential to represent something of a breakthrough for detectives.

(more in the archive link, but mostly just recapping what we already know)

 

[jason_recliner]

Mushrooms are STILL cheap!

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Mr Wilkinson has the strangest shaped head I've ever seen.

 

[Shane Sheridan]

Mr Wilkinson has the strangest shaped head I've ever seen.

Tim Gurner likes this.

 

[Awakening]

Mr Wilkinson has the strangest shaped head I've ever seen.

Shaped like a mushroom?