Less than a month out , who's our XI for Brisbane
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LukasTheGreat
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Is Cummins dead again? How far off is Pattinson?
The_Reaper
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Perth at the earliest for Patto.
Cummins may make a comeback for the BBL- where he'll breakdown injured again
If Watson isn't fit Hughes would be a lock.
Won't want to debut two new batsman in the top 6.
Hughes should already be in anyway.
Won't want to debut two new batsman in the top 6.
Hughes should already be in anyway.
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Bring Doolan in. We are much more successful with a Tasmanian at number 3.
He's had a pretty handy mentor too..
He's had a pretty handy mentor too..
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Ponting should be forced to play shield cricket until he drops.
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Wouldn't put Cummins near international cricket for at least a year.
One more serious break down could be career ending.
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What did Doolan average in shield last year?
Surely Bailey has to come in for the ashes, he is in amazing form and he provides a level head, proffessionalism, leadership and maturity the team needs
eth-dog
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Low to mid 40's I think, Bailey averaged 18.
I still have no doubt that they have already picked the top 6 (if Watson is fit) even if Bailey and Warner fail. The only question is Lyon and Ahmed. I'd actually have Doolan ahead of Bailey.
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i'm expecting CA to pull the "Watson as a batsman only" card, to the team's detriment.
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Watson looked completely shagged in that final ODI game. Nothing left in the tank stamina wise .
The Falcon Strike
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Watson is criminally underrated as a bowler IMO.
In fact I reckon he is a better bowler than batsmen.
Just amazes me how he can be so disciplined and focussed with the ball, yet panicked and rash with the bat.
On the Johnson debate - I watched him in the English ODI series. His action was better, he bowled precious few loose deliveries and he was moving the ball
The only wides I saw were generally marginally down leg targeting the rib cage - which is still handy in test cricket.
Ultimately red ball cricket should decide his fate - its a pity he didn't play in the first shield match in Vic as a bouncy WACA wicket isn't going to tell us much we don't already know about him
feels like he really hasn't been a real threat with the ball for some time now.
Since he took that 5 for in SA (2 years ago now) he has taken just 9 more test wickets@54, perhaps we are overstating the importance of his bowling when his stats for the last 2 years read more like a part timer.
Since he took that 5 for in SA (2 years ago now) he has taken just 9 more test wickets@54, perhaps we are overstating the importance of his bowling when his stats for the last 2 years read more like a part timer.
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Watson's bowling now ties up an end more so than ripping through orders by himself. He is vital to our side when bowling IMO.
The Falcon Strike
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agreed
Even without taking wickets he was bowling maiden after maiden which both created pressure and allowed our main quicks to rest longer and bowl with more venom.
He keeps bowling on a good length in the channel and the wickets will come back.
Don't like the bloke, but he is a valuable addition to our side
He has become a handy 5th bowler rather than vital these last 2 years, his fitness is poor and even when cleared to bowl he just isn't getting through that many overs.
from what i worked out he's getting through about 11-12 overs an innings on average, he is keeping it tight(but no wickets really) but for that amount overs it's certainly not vital.
I wasn't saying i would drop him or that his bowling isn't handy i just think panicking about the team balance if he misses a match or two isn't warranted.
If he is fit to bowl thats great but i don't think we need to bring in a frontline 5th bowler to cover his recent workload.
from what i worked out he's getting through about 11-12 overs an innings on average, he is keeping it tight(but no wickets really) but for that amount overs it's certainly not vital.
I wasn't saying i would drop him or that his bowling isn't handy i just think panicking about the team balance if he misses a match or two isn't warranted.
If he is fit to bowl thats great but i don't think we need to bring in a frontline 5th bowler to cover his recent workload.
eth-dog
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None of them are able to bowl very long spells. Siddle is a better option than Cummins.
In my opinion Cummins' best is better than Siddle's, they're different bowlers though, these days Siddle is a stock bowler and Cummins definitely a strike bowler. Ideally you have an attack with both of these types of bowlers.
eth-dog
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Yes, and with an attack of Harris, Pattinson and Cummins you have 3 fast bowlers very proned to break down without a stock bowler. And what are you basing Cummins' best on? One spell in SA? Siddle has performed at a consistently better level for a long time
Well I suppose all of our quicks are prone to breaking down these days so every attack we pick will have that concern. And that's why Watson not being able to bowl will be a big issue, he's been holding up an end for us, would be good if we could pick an Andrew McDonald to do that role now.
And if everyone is available I'd pick Harris, Pattinson and Cummins as our test attack for sure (as would the selectors I believe), I don't reckon Siddle needs to worry about this though because that will never happen.
eth-dog
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Siddle is our best quick. He is first choice.
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