Confirmed Liam Baker - Now a West Coast Eagle

[Jeremias]

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[Moonatic77]

Realistically …….. a late first round OR a swap of first round picks.

 

[rado]

Happy to swap first round picks with you for Baker!!!
Where do we sign??
Sounds good doesn’t it lol ……… for clarity a swap of any of your first round picks for any of our later picks ……. package deals do seem to get deals done these days.

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[rado]

Prestia was basically their #1 or #2 mid, Baker was bottom 6 (16-22) in our premiership teams

Prestia at GC was average at best, inconsistent, injury prone and failed to live up to a top 10 draftee. We traded out a first and second round pick based on potential only.
Baker was drafted as a Rookie in Nov 17 and wasn’t elevated off the Rookie list until 2020. His career has built from a rebounding defender to plugging holes all over the joint. At the point of trade, Baker way out in front.
But the issues isn’t this comparison, it’s more about a club taking a risk, being bold and putting your cahuna’s on the line to improve your list.
Does anyone really think Lockie Schultz is really worth a first round trade from the Pies? ……… not me, but I still didn’t think it was devastating for either club, the pies had a plan and went in to grab what they felt they needed, Freo get another crack at a topline kid.

 

[kuhni]

Prestia at GC was average at best, inconsistent, injury prone and failed to live up to a top 10 draftee. We traded out a first and second round pick based on potential only.
Baker was drafted as a Rookie in Nov 17 and wasn’t elevated off the Rookie list until 2020. His career has built from a rebounding defender to plugging holes all over the joint. At the point of trade, Baker way out in front.
But the issues isn’t this comparison, it’s more about a club taking a risk, being bold and putting your cahuna’s on the line to improve your list.
Does anyone really think Lockie Schultz is really worth a first round trade from the Pies? ……… not me, but I still didn’t think it was devastating for either club, the pies had a plan and went in to grab what they felt they needed, Freo get another crack at a topline kid.

Yeah nah. We did Bold with Hogan, flipped a car and set us back 3 years.

 

[Free Agent]

Personally, i actually think it comes down to the eagles and if they value Baker and want him
It sounds like Baker would rather go to the eagles if the $$$ are right

Freo have made their offer and Richmond has also but no news about the eagles if they have or will make an offer
Matt Clacke wouldnt chase and make him an offer if he was not prepared to cough up the required trade capital

Im still holding up hope he stays but if he is not signed up by the end of July then he is gone

Eagles won't be trading any of our first round picks. That's just stupid for a 27 year old player on the out.

Baker isn't really one of those players that could demand that. Yeah his alright but around pick 18-25

nowhere near a top 3 draft picks given our ladder position that's what our first round picks is for this year and next.

Hell no on that. Would be just crazy.

Also no to extra side picks like baker and pick 30 for our future first. Those later picks added don't do anything in a trade.
Again pick 3 is a star pick. Not chump change as much as Richmond would love that it isn't going to happen. If that's the case go deal with Freo. I'm not really excited about Baker in the first place. For pick 18 yeah I can live with. Nothing under that.

That's where his value is at.

 

[TJTIGER]

RFC is not known for trying to screw teams over if a player asks to be traded. If that is the case (Bakes wanting to go home?) a mutually beneficial deal will get done. But for the record I don’t believe Bakes is going anywhere… call it a hunch..

 

[Daka]

I think he is leaning towards, staying now don't get me wrong. I definitely do think he was considering it, but I think the last few weeks & extra talks with Richmond + loving the new coach. putting a deal on the table long-term has him in the box seat to stay.

We will never know though till it's done & signed.

 

[rado]

Yeah nah. We did Bold with Hogan, flipped a car and set us back 3 years.

Clearly not every trade works and your right, the Hogan deal failed for Freo. I’d still rather my club be bold and take risk to improve, even if some fail.

 

[AstonSouffle]

Clearly not every trade works and your right, the Hogan deal failed for Freo. I’d still rather my club be bold and take risk to improve, even if some fail.

Yeah then get outright attacked by everyone over the move, it's why Freo seemingly only go for choir boys now.

This isn't that complicated,

• It was so locked in that Baker was going to Freo that it was getting joked about at weddings and notable events.
• West Coast have come to the party late and have turned his head, so much so that there's absolutely no chance he goes to Freo now.
• West Coast's currency as it stands is too high for a player of his calibre (if they want to blow this on Baker then by all means, but they're sensible enough to not do that).
• Freo's currency is perfect, but he doesn't want to go to Freo.
• It is always about what the player wants, but apparently always wants Richmond to be well remunerated - which won't happen if he goes to West Coast.
• If this matters and it shouldn't, but he supported West Coast as a child. As did Fyfe for Richmond, and Yeo for Freo. So yeah this last point really doesn't matter, and if people in their minds and hearts think it does matter then sadly you must remove yourself from the discussion because your head is oblong shaped due to allowing nonsense to fill it.

Baker goes to West Coast for probably chips, and if West Coast have the stomach for it - use the PSD threat.

 

[jthanos]

Eagles won't be trading any of our first round picks. That's just stupid for a 27 year old player on the out.

Baker isn't really one of those players that could demand that. Yeah his alright but around pick 18-25

nowhere near a top 3 draft picks given our ladder position that's what our first round picks is for this year and next.

Hell no on that. Would be just crazy.

Also no to extra side picks like baker and pick 30 for our future first. Those later picks added don't do anything in a trade.
Again pick 3 is a star pick. Not chump change as much as Richmond would love that it isn't going to happen. If that's the case go deal with Freo. I'm not really excited about Baker in the first place. For pick 18 yeah I can live with. Nothing under that.

That's where his value is at.

Baker is a game changer, he changes the tempo of the game, can play back, middle and fwd and is a leader, in the PRIME of his career. He would easily be the best player in the Eagles squad today. He would be a perfect mentor for Harley Reid.
Happy to keep him at Richmond !!

 

[Barrybran]

Baker is a game changer, he changes the tempo of the game, can play back, middle and fwd and is a leader, in the PRIME of his career. He would easily be the best player in the Eagles squad today. He would be a perfect mentor for Harley Reid.
Happy to keep him at Richmond !!

And therein lies the dilemma. Not only will Baker not be the best player in our squad, he wouldn't even be playing as a main midfielder, though the same could be said of Richmond when you get all of your midfielders back. Who is paying a first round pick for a guy that will likely be playing HBF rotating into the midfield? Don't get me wrong, Baker is a good player, but he's certainly not going to be in the same echelon as the likes of Yeo, McGovern and Allen, when he returns.

 

[Tugga27]

Baker is a game changer, he changes the tempo of the game, can play back, middle and fwd and is a leader, in the PRIME of his career. He would easily be the best player in the Eagles squad today. He would be a perfect mentor for Harley Reid.
Happy to keep him at Richmond !!

He's not even the best player in your squad.

I'm a fan of Baker and he's good, but not great.
Let's be serious.

 

[tonygeeks]

Around FA and wants FA contract?
I’m not sure what water you drink but he’s out of contract and not a FA, FACT.
If any club wants him they pay via cap space and trade capital, FACT.
Your a little premature in your theoretical deal, given he’s yet to nominate a club of choice, if at all …….. Take a chill


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[tonygeeks]

I don’t think you ARE drinking water pal

You wondered why Freo and WC fans aren’t that keen

That’s why FACT

No shit he’s not a FA

Would be keen as **** if he was


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[Morro]

You’ve got to be kidding me ……… at the time we traded in Prestia, his career at GC was average at best. Baker if traded leaves as a 2 x Premiership player and vice captain.

NO he wasnt, Prestia was a GUN mid, elite if you will. Had some injuries last 2 years before coming to us, but when he played, he was elite.

 

[Morro]

Prestia at GC was average at best, inconsistent, injury prone and failed to live up to a top 10 draftee. We traded out a first and second round pick based on potential only.
Baker was drafted as a Rookie in Nov 17 and wasn’t elevated off the Rookie list until 2020. His career has built from a rebounding defender to plugging holes all over the joint. At the point of trade, Baker way out in front.
But the issues isn’t this comparison, it’s more about a club taking a risk, being bold and putting your cahuna’s on the line to improve your list.
Does anyone really think Lockie Schultz is really worth a first round trade from the Pies? ……… not me, but I still didn’t think it was devastating for either club, the pies had a plan and went in to grab what they felt they needed, Freo get another crack at a topline kid.

He was behind only GAJ at the GC, go look his stats if you didnt watch him play, bloke was a freak from year 3

Horrible comparison. Not in the same ball park Baker and Prestia, and I love Bakes.

 

[kuhni]

Clearly not every trade works and your right, the Hogan deal failed for Freo. I’d still rather my club be bold and take risk to improve, even if some fail.

Going to the draft has yielded the best results for us so far. As our scouting seems to be above average in the league.

For the right price yes, pick 15 to 22, I think Baker would add a lot. Just need to see if his salary wouldn't preclude us from going for Warner and resigning brayshaw and treacy.

 

[rado]

NO he wasnt, Prestia was a GUN mid, elite if you will. Had some injuries last 2 years before coming to us, but when he played, he was elite.

We clearly disagree on Prestia’s early career, however the point being made is …… trades are a risk and the RFC took Prestia with a 1st and 2nd pick, which was considered overs at the time. Fast forward to now and he was more than worth a 1st and 2nd pick.

 

[rado]

Going to the draft has yielded the best results for us so far. As our scouting seems to be above average in the league.

For the right price yes, pick 15 to 22, I think Baker would add a lot. Just need to see if his salary wouldn't preclude us from going for Warner and resigning brayshaw and treacy.

You make a very good point, what sometimes gets lost is length and value of contract. I’d be just as concerned about the contract details.

 

[THE_GUN]

Eagles won't be trading any of our first round picks. That's just stupid for a 27 year old player on the out.

Baker isn't really one of those players that could demand that. Yeah his alright but around pick 18-25

nowhere near a top 3 draft picks given our ladder position that's what our first round picks is for this year and next.

Hell no on that. Would be just crazy.

Also no to extra side picks like baker and pick 30 for our future first. Those later picks added don't do anything in a trade.
Again pick 3 is a star pick. Not chump change as much as Richmond would love that it isn't going to happen. If that's the case go deal with Freo. I'm not really excited about Baker in the first place. For pick 18 yeah I can live with. Nothing under that.

That's where his value is at.

OK i will pass that onto Blair

 

[THE_GUN]

[/LIST]

Baker goes to West Coast for probably chips, and if West Coast have the stomach for it - use the PSD threat.

Your delusional

Happy to bet you after it all pans out it will be better value than pick 20

 

[blaisee]

Reckon he stays

 

[THE_GUN]

Im alot more confident now than i was a month ago
80% Staying imo

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Reckon he stays

I agree.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Jordan Clark supported WCEs as a kid...

We had no currency to chase clark after tim Kelly.
Yeo on the other hand wanted to go to freo as he was a freo supporter and you turned him down stating we have too many of his type of player

Thanks for that . He won us a premiership