Vic Lidia Thorpe: Not the subject for every thread!

[Gethelred]

Seeing as Lidia discussion is cropping up across multiple threads, let's have us a thread for people who want to discuss her contribution to Australian politics.

It should go without saying but seeing as she's a bit of a beacon for controversy - for a variety of reasons - let's just remind ourselves what the board rules are around racism and sexism, shall we?

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Go nuts.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

back to the old its not what she said its how she said it etc

if you're embarrassed by a black woman who doesn't support the crown letting the king know publicly that she doesn't support the crown

if you think its a national disgrace etc

that's a you problem

imagine having your identity caught up in everyone else being nice to some rich old campaigner from another country

I mean yeah but when just stop oil glue themselves to a road, most reckon they are an embarrassment also, even if their message comes from a good place.

if you think the best way to get your message across is to act like a bellend, well.........There's a reason these people who act like idiots don't have the support of the majority of people.

 

[Gralin]

I mean yeah but when just stop oil glue themselves to a road, most reckon they are an embarrassment also, even if their message come from a good place.

if you think the best way to get your message across is to act like a bellend, well. There's a reason these people don't have the support of the majority of people.

I do love a good I agree with what you're saying but because I don't like the way you said it I'll now do the opposite and it's your fault

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I do love a good I agree with what you're saying but because I don't like the way you said it I'll now do the opposite and it's your fault

welcome to how the real-world works.

nice to have you along for the ride.

 

[Gralin]

welcome to how the real-world works.

nice to have you along for the ride.

Yes this is the excuse of "centerists" who only ever hold right wing positions

 

[Crankyhawk]

My point was you thinking your position is equally valid doesn't mean it is but is very common

Everyone wants equal weight given to their view on something regardless of expertise on the topic

And how many crankhawk opinions is lidia worth in your view on this specific topic then?

 

[Gethelred]

It's not what she said, but how she said it and delivered it.

You missed a bit, but again, you already admitted you generally don't read news before commenting, so I can repeat it for you for clarity:

"Give us back what you stole from us"

"You destroyed our land"

Again, a total embarrassment to the vast majority in the country (not you clearly, as a member of the vast minority, which you are perfectly entitled to not feel embarrassed about).

... I mean, he's the king. She's speaking to him as the king of the nation which claimed Terra Nullius.

It's a bit of an odd objection for you to have. She's not speaking to Charles the bloke, she's speaking to King Charles and the monarchy.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Yes this is the excuse of "centerists" who only ever hold right wing positions

You are just doing the left-wing playbook and having a sook that others don't agree with you. Stock standard thing. you don't agree so you are wrong.

a fwit acting like a fwit doesn't have to be political, but you go for play 1 and make it a right-wing thing.

classic

 

[zumahawk]

given I'm not going to click on a news.com.au link I have to assume that Thorpe has said something entirely reasonable and the racists are foaming at the mouth over it

Pretty much. I'm with Lidia on this. Monarchy in 2024 is horrendous.

 

[Gralin]

... I mean, he's the king. She's speaking to him as the king of the nation which claimed Terra Nullius.

It's a bit of an odd objection for you to have. She's not speaking to Charles the bloke, she's speaking to King Charles and the monarchy.

James Connolly in Ireland in 1911 on the visit of King George

 

[Gralin]

You are just doing the left-wing playbook and having a sook that others don't agree with you. Stock standard thing. you don't agree so you are wrong.

a fwit acting like a fwit doesn't have to be political, but you go for play 1 and make it a right-wing thing.

classic

Stop acting like you speak on behalf of the sensible majority then and just own your position

 

[Gethelred]

What, by talking about it on a discussion forum? You’re really reaching in logic to defend this bimbo.

She’s like the carnivore version of Tash Peterson but thankfully she keeps her clothes on.

Leave the sexism at the door, please.

 

[Seeds]

Pretty much. I'm with Lidia on this. Monarchy in 2024 is horrendous.

But there is no actual monarchy. He is just a celebrity who has no actual real power. Even in his own country let alone ours.

And the power to get rid of him from his pointless weird celebrity role is completely in our hands. When enough of us want to be an official republic (we kind of are one already anyway) one of the parties will campaign on putting up a referendum again. The choice is in our hands. Not his.

We largely dont do this because there are too many other things of real consequence to worry about. Like the housing crisis. Or climate change.

 

[Sphynx]

Yes this is the excuse of "centerists" who only ever hold right wing positions

Ahh yes, a position of acknowledging injustice, national unity, shared prosperity and concern for corruption (in an area of business and local government already highly corrupt in its very short infancy) makes you a right winger these days.

Probably accused from the position of an even further far right sovereign citizen cooker pretending to be left, by the looks.

 

[Gralin]

But there is no actual monarchy. He is just a celebrity who has no actual real power. Even in hus own country let alone ours.

And the power to get rid of him from his pointless weird celebrity role is completely in our hands anyway. When enough of us want to be a republic one of the parties will campaign on putting up a referendum again. The choice is in our hands. Not his.

We largely dont do this because there are too many other things of real consequence to worry about. Like the housing crisis. Or climate change.

So you're saying he's not the King of England?

 

[Gethelred]

But there is no actual monarchy. He is just a celebrity who has no actual real power. Even in his own country let alone ours.

And the power to get rid of him from his pointless weird celebrity role is completely in our hands. When enough of us want to be an official republic (we kind of are one already anyway) one of the parties will campaign on putting up a referendum again. The choice is in our hands. Not his.

We largely dont do this because there are too many other things of real consequence to worry about. Like the housing crisis. Or climate change.

... Seeds, this is very, very silly. He's here with his wife as king and queen, as sovereign of Australia.

 

[CM86]

It's always interesting to see the people who support free speech for neo-Nazis.

But lose their shit when a black woman gets 'lippy'.


“I disapprove of what you say, so you shouldn't be allowed to say it!!!!!!!!!" - Vomitaire

 

[Gralin]

Ahh yes, a position of acknowledging injustice, national unity, shared prosperity and concern for corruption (in an area of business and local government already highly corrupt in its very short infancy) makes you a right winger these days.

This is a rather confusing word salad in the context of the discussion at hand

Probably accused from the position of an even further far right sovereign citizen cooker pretending to be left, by the looks.

People that don't want to be accused of being conservative or right wing but want to push that agenda or agree with that position tend to do one of two things

Blame the people they want to disagree with for making them side with the conservatives

Alternatively claim it's a mainstream centre position and therefore not conservative

 

[Seeds]

So you're saying he's not the King of England?

Does he have any powers of a king? Does he make laws? Does he have any relevance at all?

 

[Sphynx]

It's always interesting to see the people who support free speech for neo-Nazis.

But lose their shit when a black woman gets 'lippy'.


“I disapprove of what you say, so you shouldn't be allowed to say it!!!!!!!!!" - Vomitaire

“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” – Evelyn Beatrice Hall

 

[burge13]

Leave the monarchy chat to the appropriate thread please. This one is about that stain, Lidia

 

[Gralin]

Does he have any powers of a king?

Yes

Does he make laws?

Relevance?

Does he have any relevance at all?

What's that got to do with whether he is the King?

 

[CM86]

Leave the monarchy chat to the appropriate thread please. This one is about that stain, Lidia

Stain???

Because she's a black woman?


Mask slipping again, burger.

 

[QuietB]

The woman should be removed from Canberra and any representation of this country. An absolute disgrace.

The list of people that should be removed from Canberra is long and (not) distinguished.

There are plenty of Liberals and conservatives who are worse than Thorpe.

 

[HairyO]

imagine sooking about someone telling Charles they don't support him and acting like its a national embarrassment and proof the person who said it is a trash human

Imagine saying this on a forum where her language isnt allowed.

Hrmmmm.

 

[burge13]

Stain???

Because she's a black woman?


Mask slipping again, burger.

It's weird how often being black is a defence of shit behaviour to you extreme lefties. No, she is a vile person, colour irrelevant