List Mgmt. List Management Discussion for 2021

[Tassie Cryptik]

College in Tasmania is year 11.
You're all arguing with a 16 year old.
Men's brains aren't fully formed until mid 20s.

 

[Pessimistic]

I know teams would have asked the question. But if a Bont, Petracca, Oliver etc. were available the Tigers would have made room with their cap and happily handed over trade capital.

That’s part of the difference between Mitchell and the top mids, for me at least.

ironically Dusty was available once…perhaps

 

[burner1]

How Sam improves or transitions the midfield over next 3 years is one of his biggest tasks.

The midfield needs to improve. Maybe some tweaks makes it slightly better (but not good enough) but personnel change has to happen.

Would like to see Nash, Jai, Finn get 10+ games plus a taste to our draftees - but how that done is anyone’s guess. We can’t have JOM/Mitch/worpel/shiels clogging up the flanks in secondary roles they are average at. But rolling out our current midfield for next 24 months just means we tread water and create a bigger cliff.

Absent injury senior mids may have to play at box hill if we want any of the next tier to develop. It’s the hard calls we’ll need to make at some stage (and made harder by failure to trade anyone). At same time none of senior mids will want to diminish their value if they see a trade coming in 12 months. A big test of Mitchell’s man management skills awaits.

Expect some red hot internal scratch match games. Given Mitchell’s style he may just simply put them head to head and best performed gets games (irrespective of reputation).

BB JOM Mitchell Wingard (and shiels) vs Reeves Nash Jai Finn (worpel). I wouldn’t be surprised if by end of preseason the younger group gives them a run for their money - won’t rack up as much ball but could give them massive headaches in clearences, smothering defensive pressure and forward run on transition.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

How Sam improves or transitions the midfield over next 3 years is one of his biggest tasks.

The midfield needs to improve. Maybe some tweaks makes it slightly better (but not good enough) but personnel change has to happen.

Would like to see Nash, Jai, Finn get 10+ games plus a taste to our draftees - but how that done is anyone’s guess. We can’t have JOM/Mitch/worpel/shiels clogging up the flanks in secondary roles they are average at. But rolling out our current midfield for next 24 months just means we tread water and create a bigger cliff.

Absent injury senior mids may have to play at box hill if we want any of the next tier to develop. It’s the hard calls we’ll need to make at some stage (and made harder by failure to trade anyone). At same time none of senior mids will want to diminish their value if they see a trade coming in 12 months. A big test of Mitchell’s man management skills awaits.

Expect some red hot internal scratch match games. Given Mitchell’s style he may just simply put them head to head and best performed gets games (irrespective of reputation).

BB JOM Mitchell Wingard (and shiels) vs Reeves Nash Jai Finn (worpel). I wouldn’t be surprised if by end of preseason the younger group gives them a run for their money - won’t rack up as much ball but could give them massive headaches in clearences, smothering defensive pressure and forward run on transition.

Shiels, BB bye bye.

 

[Pessimistic]

How Sam improves or transitions the midfield over next 3 years is one of his biggest tasks.

The midfield needs to improve. Maybe some tweaks makes it slightly better (but not good enough) but personnel change has to happen.

Would like to see Nash, Jai, Finn get 10+ games plus a taste to our draftees - but how that done is anyone’s guess. We can’t have JOM/Mitch/worpel/shiels clogging up the flanks in secondary roles they are average at. But rolling out our current midfield for next 24 months just means we tread water and create a bigger cliff.

Absent injury senior mids may have to play at box hill if we want any of the next tier to develop. It’s the hard calls we’ll need to make at some stage (and made harder by failure to trade anyone). At same time none of senior mids will want to diminish their value if they see a trade coming in 12 months. A big test of Mitchell’s man management skills awaits.

Expect some red hot internal scratch match games. Given Mitchell’s style he may just simply put them head to head and best performed gets games (irrespective of reputation).

BB JOM Mitchell Wingard (and shiels) vs Reeves Nash Jai Finn (worpel). I wouldn’t be surprised if by end of preseason the younger group gives them a run for their money - won’t rack up as much ball but could give them massive headaches in clearences, smothering defensive pressure and forward run on transition.

Was it the beginning of 2007 or 2008 pre season the young group defeated the older group mainly through running power. As you say a good problem to have
Hawks also had issues running out games in 2020 an 2021. Maybe not enough players in the mid age demographic and some injured too. Perhaps some rotation helps to fix this

 

[JaegarTime]

Yeah, start college next year.

But as a whole it's still true, watch too much footy, watch it every game plus i like to rewatch games.

All of the coverage over games, talking to people who know more than i do about things and so on.

Mate, you’re not the only one that does this. You need to take a step back sometimes and realise you don’t know everything.

We all love footy here, some watch more than others and that’s cool. But you get into these arguments and cannot see that you might be slightly wrong.

Just chill.

 

[JaegarTime]

Shiels, BB bye bye.

Big boy is still our best contested mark.
I understand that his time is almost up but he is still best 22 at this stage.

 

[JaegarTime]

Disagree with you. Mitchell covers a heap of territory and gets a lot of ball in defence (including the last line) where he creates an extra option.

100%, Mitchell’s tank is amazing

 

[Mojo]

College in Tasmania is year 11.
You're all arguing with a 16 year old.
Men's brains aren't fully formed until mid 20s.

That's very kind of you, TC.

Mine's still a work in progress.

 

[spudmaster]

College in Tasmania is year 11.
You're all arguing with a 16 year old.
Men's brains aren't fully formed until mid 20s.

That's very kind of you, TC.

Mine's still a work in progress.

Reckon mine must've been born in leap year!

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Big boy is still our best contested mark.
I understand that his time is almost up but he is still best 22 at this stage.

Maybe, Lynch coming.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Mate, you’re not the only one that does this. You need to take a step back sometimes and realise you don’t know everything.

We all love footy here, some watch more than others and that’s cool. But you get into these arguments and cannot see that you might be slightly wrong.

Just chill.

Yes and me and others are just giving opinions. It's fine.

 

[JaegarTime]

Yes and me and others are just giving opinions. It's fine.

It’s not fine when 4 pages builds up of an argument that could be finished in 4 posts. You’re allowed an opinion, as is everyone. But the way you communicate and stretch the truth about things is the reason these threads get backed up by crap.
This isn’t the place to have a pissing contest of who watches more footy, who has intel, who receives videos from people that are at training etc.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

It’s not fine when 4 pages builds up of an argument that could be finished in 4 posts. You’re allowed an opinion, as is everyone. But the way you communicate and stretch the truth about things is the reason these threads get backed up by crap.
This isn’t the place to have a pissing contest of who watches more footy, who has intel, who receives videos from people that are at training etc.

True, will cop that.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Yeah, start college next year.

But as a whole it's still true, watch too much footy, watch it every game plus i like to rewatch games.

All of the coverage over games, talking to people who know more than i do about things and so on.

You're certainly enthusiastic, but you have a long way to go to catch up to some young buck.

 

[MrPremiership]

Shiels, BB bye bye.

2023 maybe.....suggest they'll both play 15+ games in 2022 though

 

[Dipper]

You're certainly enthusiastic, but you have a long way to go to catch up to some young buck.

Yes, wax on wax off for young Dom.

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[Roger Rogerson]

True, will cop that.

Good work Dom ride the bumps with a grin.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

2023 maybe.....suggest they'll both play 15+ games in 2022 though

Jesus 15+ is tanking.

 

[GOHORCS]

College in Tasmania is year 11.
You're all arguing with a 16 year old.
Men's brains aren't fully formed until mid 20s.

It is believed to be more around 30 for most humans.

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[Dewyyyyy]

It is believed to be more around 30 for most humans.

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Well everyone learns throughout their life, you never really stop.

 

[Big Hotdog]

Well everyone learns throughout their life, you never really stop.

Live like it is your last day on earth.
But learn like you will live forever.

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[tommyk72]

Live like it is your last day on earth.
But learn like you will live forever.

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Great quote. The sort of thing I should go and get tatooed onto my calf in sanscrit or chinese characters

 

[Tassie Cryptik]

Well everyone learns throughout their life, you never really stop.

Nothing to do with learning, I was referring to the actual development of the brain.
Two different and distinct things.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Nothing to do with learning, I was referring to the actual development of the brain.
Two different and distinct things.

Fair enough.