List Mgmt. List Management Discussion for 2022

[TylerDurden]

Bruhn was pick 12 and probably doesn't play with Hopper and Taranto in the side

Callaghan, Hopper, Taranto, Greene, Kelly, Coniglio > Bruhn

You simply can;t ask for a high first round pick let alone bloody two first round picks when said play is the 7-9th best midfielder in the team.

He's had 24 and kicked 2 on the weekend. Will be a star. They're not dumb.

 

[theiaofseed]

He's had 24 and kicked 2 on the weekend. Will be a star. They're not dumb.

No one is playing two first round picks for a midfielder in his second year who can't cement his spot in the best 22 of a bottom 4 club, averages under 14 touches a game

 

[Billyc]

He's had 24 and kicked 2 on the weekend. Will be a star. They're not dumb.

Opponent on the weekend was VFL level. If we were basing market value on that one game, Coniglio would be worth what he's being paid and Himmelberg would be a million dollar man. Bruhn will need to put in similar efforts against proper opposition to demand 2 first rounders. He is the type of player we should be considering. I recall he looked devastated when drafted to Giants (worst poker face), so wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to move.

 

[TylerDurden]

No one is playing two first round picks for a midfielder in his second year who can't cement his spot in the best 22 of a bottom 4 club, averages under 14 touches a game

I'm not saying he's worth it. But you know what they're like. What did they ask for Caldwell in the end?

 

[theiaofseed]

I'm not saying he's worth it. But you know what they're like. What did they ask for Caldwell in the end?

Basically Pick 29.

Edit: Pick 29+32 for Caldwell+44

 

[Blackhawk42]

not true

There was a news story interviewing JOM after the trade period where he said he went away and basically waited for a phone call in case offers would come through.

I can't remember where I saw it, but I remember thinking at the time that the way he responded 100% suggested he would have been open to move if it benefited him and the footy club. He was also just as happy to stay and get started on the new era under Mitchell.

I don't believe for a second that he was as fierce in wanting to stay as Wingard and Breust were.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

not true

Yes it is, O'Meara said it in one of his interviews at the start if the year.

 

[Stratton24]

There was a news story interviewing JOM after the trade period where he said he went away and basically waited for a phone call in case offers would come through.

I can't remember where I saw it, but I remember thinking at the time that the way he responded 100% suggested he would have been open to move if it benefited him and the footy club. He was also just as happy to stay and get started on the new era under Mitchell.

I don't believe for a second that he was as fierce in wanting to stay as Wingard and Breust were.

he was desperate to stay, like Punky and Chad he would have said no thanks

under no circumstances would he have been happy to leave but if we had have gone all Collingwood with Treloar than reluctantly the player usually would agree in the end, luckily we treat our people with respect and are not Collingwood

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Bruhn was a top 10 pick. They'd want 2 firsts.

Reckon a single future 1st would get it done.

 

[HawthornHawk]

Reckon a single future 1st would get it done.

Surely we wouldn't run that gauntlet again

 

[theiaofseed]

Worpel, MacDonald, DBG, Serong all impressive on the weekend

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

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Jack Crisp has been a wonderful example of what can happen. A fine young man who has worked at his game, relied on his skill, worked at his hardness, consistentancy, and leadership.

Well done Jack.

And his durability. An amazing run which needs to be mentioned more. Obviously got himself in great nick consistently as never seems to get niggly injuries at all.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Surely we wouldn't run that gauntlet again

Nailing a 20yr old with exposed form, using a draft pick that may or may not turn out ok. Absolutely.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Worpel, MacDonald, DBG, Serong all impressive on the weekend

Would really like to see Serong, Ned Long and Saunders all get some AFL exposure in the second half of the year.

 

[H00t]

Nailing a 20yr old with exposed form, using a draft pick that may or may not turn out ok. Absolutely.

I’d argue his form hasn’t been that good, with only his game against a VFL level North showing some top line form.

He’s a pick 12 that while talented hasn’t shown a lot. A second and change would be the highest I’d go. Especially given he’s a very similar size to our other mids.

I’d back ourselves in to draft a better player with our first next year.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I’d argue his form hasn’t been that good, with only his game against a VFL level North showing some top line form.

He’s a pick 12 that while talented hasn’t shown a lot. A second and change would be the highest I’d go. Especially given he’s a very similar size to our other mids.

I’d back ourselves in to draft a better player with our first next year.

I’d argue that he could be our best centre clearance mid, and would be a welcome addition to Newk, Nash and Ward.

Waiting another 12months for a chance to nail a draft pick is conservative, but not without risk.

It all boils down to if Bruhn was interested. If he was, absolutely get the trade done.

 

[TheFourPillars]

I’d argue that he could be our best centre clearance mid, and would be a welcome addition to Newk, Nash and Ward.

Waiting another 12months for a chance to nail a draft pick is conservative, but not without risk.

It all boils down to if Bruhn was interested. If he was, absolutely get the trade done.

I was pretty keen on him in his draft year

 

[TylerDurden]

I’d argue that he could be our best centre clearance mid, and would be a welcome addition to Newk, Nash and Ward.

Waiting another 12months for a chance to nail a draft pick is conservative, but not without risk.

It all boils down to if Bruhn was interested. If he was, absolutely get the trade done.

He's a jet. But a big Cats man apparently.

 

[H00t]

I’d argue that he could be our best centre clearance mid, and would be a welcome addition to Newk, Nash and Ward.

Waiting another 12months for a chance to nail a draft pick is conservative, but not without risk.

It all boils down to if Bruhn was interested. If he was, absolutely get the trade done.

I’m not saying I wouldn’t like him in the team just not for a future first. To me he’s only worth a late first at most. Why overpay?

He has some tools but I’m not sure how he’d go with extra attention he’d get when in our team and without the protection of some of the bigger GWS mids. At least not enough to risk a potential top 10 pick.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I’m not saying I wouldn’t like him in the team just not for a future first. To me he’s only worth a late first at most. Why overpay?

He has some tools but I’m not sure how he’d go with extra attention he’d get when in our team and without the protection of some of the bigger GWS mids. At least not enough to risk a potential top 10 pick.

Keep watching him this year, because his value is only rising.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

I'm not comfortable about trading future 1sts until I'm confident we go into a season and a top 8 contender.

 

[perrdan86]

Nailing a 20yr old with exposed form, using a draft pick that may or may not turn out ok. Absolutely.

I agree. When its someone thats showing they can absolutely cut it at the level, i'd pull the trigger.

 

[theiaofseed]

I'd happily give a pick 12-15 for Bruhn but I'm not trading a future pick in our position.

 

[Stratton24]

I would only ever trade a future pick for an established under 25 super star.
It's just too depressing if your season falls apart and you have no fall back option of saying at least we get a decent draft pick.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I’d argue his form hasn’t been that good, with only his game against a VFL level North showing some top line form.

He’s a pick 12 that while talented hasn’t shown a lot. A second and change would be the highest I’d go. Especially given he’s a very similar size to our other mids.

I’d back ourselves in to draft a better player with our first next year.

Keep in mind he was recovering from a significant knee injury during his draft year (or was it just prior and led into his draft year?).

The studirs show that these injuries take at least 18 months to recover from fully.