Lockett, Dunstall & Ablett vs Tredrea, Lloyd & Tarrant

[The Clokes]

anyone?

 

[MrMeaner]

I'd pay to see it!

 

[marcuz]

Lockett dunstall and ablett are a class above the other three..not even close IMO.

 

[Zeke]

Lloyd could potentially be included with the first group. Tredrea and Tarrant do not belong in the same sentence.

 

[Sheik Mathious]

Marcuz! Would please stop making sense! If does not fit the profile of an Essendon supporter!

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by Zeke
Lloyd could potentially be included with the first group. Tredrea and Tarrant do not belong in the same sentence.

Agreed. Why compare 3 full forwards with 1 full forward and a pair of half-forwards?

 

[SurreyBlue]

Thank God others have said it.

 

[marcuz]

Originally posted by Sheik Mathious
Marcuz! Would please stop making sense! If does not fit the profile of an Essendon supporter!

im also male and over the age of 16....rare indeed

 

[Nikita Blue]

Silvagni would kill them all.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

1st group would eat the 2nd group for breakfast.lockett,dunstall and ablett proved over and over again they can perform when it counts.the same cant be said for tredrea and tarrant.

cheers!

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by tiger of old
1st group would eat the 2nd group for breakfast.lockett,dunstall and ablett proved over and over again they can perform when it counts.the same cant be said for tredrea and tarrant.

cheers!

How many premierships do the respective sides have between them?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Originally posted by Porthos
How many premierships do the respective sides have between them?

off the top of my head.4[all dunstall vs 1[lloyd].
your point being?

cheers!

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by tiger of old
off the top of my head.4[all dunstall vs 1[lloyd].
your point being?

Well, maybe I'm just stupid, but isn't one of the main reasons (besides not being FFs) Tredrea and Tarrant get talked down in comparison pretty much because of team results as opposed to personal efforts?

 

[marcuz]

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Originally posted by Porthosoff the top of my head.4[all dunstall vs 1[lloyd].
your point being?

Probably responding to the point that one group performs in big games and the others don't...the fact only 2 players have won flags would suggest otherwise.

 

[Unwritten_Law]

Originally posted by marcuz
Probably responding to the point that one group performs in big games and the others don't...the fact only 2 players have won flags would suggest otherwise.

So one player is expected to drag the whole team to a flag?

e.g. Ablett kicking nine in the '89 grand final and the team still losing. You can't do much more than that!

 

[marcuz]

Originally posted by Unwritten Law
So one player is expected to drag the whole team to a flag?

e.g. Ablett kicking nine in the '89 grand final and the team still losing. You can't do much more than that!

No but a good performance helps. Abletts next three grand finals were average and geelong got beaten comfortably.

 

[Jimmae]

Originally posted by marcuz
No but a good performance helps. Abletts next three grand finals were average and geelong got beaten comfortably.

Because they were a one-dimensonal team! They had a few other good players in those years... but when it came down to it in the forward line, you had Billy & Ablett.

Who would you kick it to?

 

[HIG]

Originally posted by Porthos
Well, maybe I'm just stupid, but isn't one of the main reasons (besides not being FFs) Tredrea and Tarrant get talked down in comparison pretty much because of team results as opposed to personal efforts?

Personal efforts? When Tarrant, LLoyd and Tredrea kick or set up near on 4000 goals between them, come back and talk about individual results.

 

[Poopypants]

Wouldn't Carey (at his peak) be a better comparison to Tredrea and Tarrant?
You can't really judge them fairly until their careers are over. Group 1 has been there and done it, Tredrea and Tarrant still have to prove themselves over time imho.

 

[Ten Ton Hammer]

Originally posted by marcuz
Lockett dunstall and ablett are a class above the other three..not even close IMO.

Agreed!

 

[Ten Ton Hammer]

Originally posted by Nikita Blue
Silvagni would kill them all.

On his day he would but then again there's been times when his got killed by lockett and dunstall on their days as well!

 

[pazza]

Different eras.

Plugger, Piggy and God make Tarrant and Tredrea seem very ordinary. Least Lloyd could consider himself as an equal of the 3 though, due to the fact he is more of a permanent full-forward than either Tredders or Chrissy.

 

[bLuEMoOsE]

To even get the positions right it would be :

Ablett (aka God) = Lloyd (id still take Ablett Any day of the week and twice on Matchday)

Lockett = Barry Hall ..........i know who i would take.

Dunstall (i never got my arms above my sholders and still kicked 1000 goals) = the only other Decent full forward atm is Fervola (this discounts Lynch) And i know who i would take out of fervola and Dunstall

 

[The Shev]

I can't believe they have been compared with Tarrant and Tredrea.



That's a crime, surely. All three kicked 1000 goals and are legends of the game. Tarrant and Tredrea, despite playing in diffrent positions, would never have the same impact as the top three.

Llyod at the end of his career could be in that group. He is half way there I reckon.

 

[Jabso]

They are completely different types of players.
Lloyd is perhaps different but even he spends way more time up the ground than the old full forward. Lloyd on my opinion is not yet able to be compared with these 3. The full forward is a dying breed, due to the evolving of gameplans.