Lockett, Dunstall & Ablett vs Tredrea, Lloyd & Tarrant

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Originally posted by Captain Blood
another stupid thread from The Clokes.
Only a Magpie supporter woould include 2 overated players like Treadrea and Tarrant in the company of superstars.
What these two ever done, Tarrants had one good season, and Trdders is so over-rated it's not funny
I hate it when someone posts exactly what I was going to.:mad: :mad: :p

lol Tarrant..
 
Tarrant LOL I'd put Johnny Barker before him. Barker would be miles behind Ablett/Lockett /Dunstall though.

Tarrant? God you Magpie fans dream :p
 
Originally posted by Hawk_2004
Tarrant LOL I'd put Johnny Barker before him. Barker would be miles behind Ablett/Lockett /Dunstall though.

Tarrant? God you Magpie fans dream :p

Johny Barker before Tarrant?

Thanks...you've just revealed to us all how clueless you are!

:D Barker before Tarrant...lol, thanks for the laugh...I haven't heard a joke that funny for years!
 

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Not a very even contest here.

Dunstall and Lockett were two specialist FF in the days when FFs were the focal point. Ablett in his latter years was also FF and the main focal point.

Tredrea is a CHF, Tarrant is a flanker and Lloyd the only genuine FF.
 
Originally posted by Lestat
Johny Barker before Tarrant?

Thanks...you've just revealed to us all how clueless you are!

:D Barker before Tarrant...lol, thanks for the laugh...I haven't heard a joke that funny for years!

Tarrant is a joke, what position on the ground does he play? Where does he pick up all his possessions?

Now who knows nothing on football?
 
Maybe there is a case for a mix of Neitz, Lynch and Hall, as they currently are the onlt other genuine full-forwards in the game now.

Lynch, to be fair to him, has gotten better with age.
Neitz is perhaps the last full forward captains.
Hall will only get better.

Those 3 are streets ahead of Tarrant and Tredrea.
 
Originally posted by Hawk_2004
Tarrant is a joke, what position on the ground does he play? Where does he pick up all his possessions?

Now who knows nothing on football?

Once again....your post has shown that you know nothing about footy.

Tarrant has more talent then your whole forward line put together.
 
Originally posted by Lestat
Once again....your post has shown that you know nothing about footy.

Tarrant has more talent then your whole forward line put together.

Typical Collingwood supporter divert from answering the questions. :eek:
 
Originally posted by Hawk_2004
Typical Collingwood supporter divert from answering the questions. :eek:

Sorry...I don't discuss footy with 10 year olds that would not have a clue.

If you would John Barker in your side then Tarrant then there really isn't much to talk about is there.

Obviously your so biased...or so stupid...and quite frankly your not worth the effort.

But you are pretty funny. Barker before Tarrant. HAHA :D
 
Originally posted by Lestat
Sorry...I don't discuss footy with 10 year olds that would not have a clue.

If you would John Barker in your side then Tarrant then there really isn't much to talk about is there.

Obviously your so biased...or so stupid...and quite frankly your not worth the effort.

But you are pretty funny. Barker before Tarrant. HAHA :D

You won't answer the questions because Tarrant is a HACK. He wouldn't be a kick chaser by any chance :p Keep dreaming of another second place :p
 
Originally posted by Hawk_2004
You won't answer the questions because Tarrant is a HACK. He wouldn't be a kick chaser by any chance :p Keep dreaming of another second place :p

And where did the Dawks finish last year?

Tell me...do the Dawks have any forwards that even came close to Tarrants mark tally.

And I'm pretty sure that he kicked more goals then any of your forwards.

So if Tarrants a hack...then what does that make your dud team.

Oh....and keep dreaming of another 9th place. :p

lol...what a goose :D
 
Originally posted by Lestat
And where did the Dawks finish last year?

Tell me...do the Dawks have any forwards that even came close to Tarrants mark tally.

And I'm pretty sure that he kicked more goals then any of your forwards.

So if Tarrants a hack...then what does that make your dud team.

Oh....and keep dreaming of another 9th place. :p

lol...what a goose :D

Where did Tarrant take the "most" marks? In the backline chasing a kick? :p

We'll finish much higher than your fairy club, but hey that's right you don't like travelling. Do you :p

Still wondering why Rocca was rubbed out?

Still screwing up the Collingwood Daily over Jason Clokes poor Grand Final?

Still believe Rhys Shaw is the "new bred" of Pie to take you the next step?

What a joke.
 
Originally posted by Hawk_2004
Where did Tarrant take the "most" marks? In the backline chasing a kick? :p

We'll finish much higher than your fairy club, but hey that's right you don't like travelling. Do you :p

Still wondering why Rocca was rubbed out?

Still screwing up the Collingwood Daily over Jason Clokes poor Grand Final?

Still believe Rhys Shaw is the "new bred" of Pie to take you the next step?

What a joke.

shouldn't you go to bed...you know, school tomorrow.
 

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Originally posted by pazza
Maybe there is a case for a mix of Neitz, Lynch and Hall, as they currently are the onlt other genuine full-forwards in the game now.

Lynch, to be fair to him, has gotten better with age.
Neitz is perhaps the last full forward captains.
Hall will only get better.

Those 3 are streets ahead of Tarrant and Tredrea.

Tredrea is a better player than Lynch, Neitz, Hall & Tarrant. What drugs are you smoking?
 
Stupid question.


All of the second group have the potential to be considered in the company of Lockett/Dunstall/Ablett because they all three have another 5-8 years left in them.

Anyone who says Tarrant or Tredrea are pathetic does not watch a lot of football.
 
LOVE to get Lloyd (and he should've been a Hawk anyways.. bloody Dockers).

Very pleased to get Tredrea.

Tarrant be okay.

KILL to get any of Dunstall, Lockett or Ablett in their prime.

Kill more to get Hudson snr in his prime though.
 
Originally posted by pazza
Maybe there is a case for a mix of Neitz, Lynch and Hall, as they currently are the onlt other genuine full-forwards in the game now.

Lynch, to be fair to him, has gotten better with age.
Neitz is perhaps the last full forward captains.
Hall will only get better.

Those 3 are streets ahead of Tarrant and Tredrea.

Barry Hall in your view is slightly overrated IMO. Both Tarrant and Tredrea had great seasons, perhaps even better than Hall. And speaking of genuine full forwards, what of Fevola? He kicked 63 goals (the third highest in the H&A season) and he kicked most of 'em down there.

Fevola has a better case than Hall in terms of improvement, he's still 22 whereas Hall is what, 25/26? Fevola just seems to have more natural talent than Hall (from what we've seen)... and if Fevola was in a team with a good midfield, say Brisbane, his goal tally would be even higher. We will have to wait until Fevola takes the next step this year... he could be anything. Kicking 63 goals in a team with the wost midfield in the competition with the lowest inside 50 entries is far more impressive than what Hall has done this year (brute strength is his key). Just imagine if he had the ball given to him on a silver platter with a GOOD midfield where the ball would more frequently enter his space...
 
Is this thread a joke?

No, seriously I don't understand.

I agree with whoever said the 2nd 3 shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentance, with perhaps the exception of Lloyd, i believe hinm to be at least the equal of Dunstall..

Then again look who and when Dunstall had delivering him the pill.

Richard Flounder could've kicked 100 goals in that side:p
 
Originally posted by Thrawn
Barry Hall in your view is slightly overrated IMO. Both Tarrant and Tredrea had great seasons, perhaps even better than Hall. And speaking of genuine full forwards, what of Fevola? He kicked 63 goals (the third highest in the H&A season) and he kicked most of 'em down there.

Fevola has a better case than Hall in terms of improvement, he's still 22 whereas Hall is what, 25/26? Fevola just seems to have more natural talent than Hall (from what we've seen)... and if Fevola was in a team with a good midfield, say Brisbane, his goal tally would be even higher. We will have to wait until Fevola takes the next step this year... he could be anything. Kicking 63 goals in a team with the wost midfield in the competition with the lowest inside 50 entries is far more impressive than what Hall has done this year (brute strength is his key). Just imagine if he had the ball given to him on a silver platter with a GOOD midfield where the ball would more frequently enter his space...

O'loughin, davis, goodes, schnieder , o'keefe, ball .

The only reason why fevola kicked more goals than hall is cause look at carlton's forward line campared to swans fevola is their only option. And hall passes the ball alot to other players.
Simply put hall is better than fevola.
 
Originally posted by Thrawn
Barry Hall in your view is slightly overrated IMO. Both Tarrant and Tredrea had great seasons, perhaps even better than Hall. And speaking of genuine full forwards, what of Fevola? He kicked 63 goals (the third highest in the H&A season) and he kicked most of 'em down there.

Fevola has a better case than Hall in terms of improvement, he's still 22 whereas Hall is what, 25/26? Fevola just seems to have more natural talent than Hall (from what we've seen)... and if Fevola was in a team with a good midfield, say Brisbane, his goal tally would be even higher. We will have to wait until Fevola takes the next step this year... he could be anything. Kicking 63 goals in a team with the wost midfield in the competition with the lowest inside 50 entries is far more impressive than what Hall has done this year (brute strength is his key). Just imagine if he had the ball given to him on a silver platter with a GOOD midfield where the ball would more frequently enter his space...
What do u smoke when watching the football? If you asked the other forteen teams in the league whether they prefer Fevola or Hall, once the laughter died down, the count would be 14-zip. The only reason he was still at Carlton last year was 'cause you couldn't trade him.

Consolation goals when your team is being belted by 60+ points don't make you a great FF.

What is now, 42 days until your first belting of the year? Never know, keep those 10 goal hidings up anf Fev might even kick the ton.
 
Originally posted by JeffDunne
What do u smoke when watching the football? If you asked the other forteen teams in the league whether they prefer Fevola or Hall, once the laughter died down, the count would be 14-zip.

I didn't say Fevola was better than Hall, stop putting my words out of context. Having more natural talent doesn't equate to the player being better... Hall's strength is his, err, body strength and uses it very effectively to kick goals. Having a very good midfield to him him the pill doesn't hurt either. Has a much better physical presence, but as far as natural talent goes, Fevola has displayed it on far more occassions. If Fevola had significantly more delivery from a better midfield, there would be no doubt that he'd kick more, with or without better forwards around him. What I DID say was that Fevola had the more potential for improvement, seeing as he's 22 and Hall is 25/26. It is also interesting to note that Fevola kicked bags most of the time when we were either competitive or even had won (Essendon and the Kangaroos come to mind).

The only reason he was still at Carlton last year was 'cause you couldn't trade him.

The only reason he was at Carlton last year was because of one man named Denis Pagan. And your point was there... ?

Consolation goals when your team is being belted by 60+ points don't make you a great FF.

Irrelevant if we are being thrashed or not. The most important thing is that he kicked 63 goals in a team that had the lowest forward 50 entires. And yet you are still twisting my words to suit your own sermon. Where, oh where have I stated that he was a great FF? A good FF no doubt (you're good if you can climb up from hack status to Coleman contention for most of the season). From all the other FFs of the league, I'd only consider Lloyd as a great FF. I realise that one year a great FF does not make, but tell me, how is Hall rated so highly only from two great years? If Fevola can manag to play well in 2004, wouldn't you think he would be at his level?

What is now, 42 days until your first belting of the year? Never know, keep those 10 goal hidings up anf Fev might even kick the ton.

Sorry Jeff, but I don't gloat and brag about events until they actually happen. As I had said to you before; I'm going to stay quiet about my team's forturnes for this year until something happens.

Yet again the same irrelevant point; it doesn't matter if we get thumped or not. Fevola kicking bags when we're being thumped indicates that he's at least trying harder than most of his team mates, a strong sign that he hasn't given up. That is a great quality in a forward. Win, loss or draw... goals are goals. Vital goals that help win games are an exception... and with the few wins we had last year, Fevola kicked them.

Whether you like it or not, kicking 63 IS impressive when only last year you were considered an absolute hack and that midfield delievery was so poor that you hardly saw the ball move into the F50. Add the fact that he was usually double or triple teamed throughout the year with hardly any forward assisting him, kicking 63 in those circumstances proves my claim. Also had the second highest scoring shots too. Hall did not have as much pressure as Fevola, that is fact. You are giving Fevola no credit whatsoever... I'd like to see how he'd goal with a midfield like Brisbane's where the sherrin is delievered to him on a platter.

I'd rather argue with Joffaboy - at least when he replies to my posts, he doesn't twist my words to suit himself. Because I didn't say that Fevola was better... but Hall IS slightly overrated IMO.
 
Originally posted by Ten Ton Hammer
O'loughin, davis, goodes, schnieder , o'keefe, ball .

The only reason why fevola kicked more goals than hall is cause look at carlton's forward line campared to swans fevola is their only option.

You also have to consider how GOOD your midfield delivery is, and whether you had other forwards that actually helped. Throughout the whole year Fevola was double and triple teamed, yet still managed to have a brilliant season.

And hall passes the ball alot to other players.[/quote]

That doesn't matter. Most Full-forwards do. Second and third efforts are evident in all full forwards...

Simply put hall is better than fevola.

I agree. But I still think that Fevola is a better shot at goal, a faster runner and has more potential/room for improvement. ;)
 

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