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lonie and egan to be delisted
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Bloben
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This is my somewhat realistic dream
with retirements we have 3 spots.
+ additional delisting (Richards & Davies) = 5 spots
- 2 rookie promotions (Clarke & Wellingham) = 3 spots
+ 1 of the following traded for draft pick upgrade (Lonie, Holland, Toovey, Egan) = 4 spots
In the draft - Pick 14 and 31 for Wood and 24 (maybe the upgrade player above comes in as steak knives here)
Pick 24 for Prismall.
Third round pick for Renton or Samplers new favourite ruckman.
Fourth round pick for Action Jaxson
I would also want to pick up another ruckman as a rookie. That would give us 3 new rucks. We would then have Fraser, Bryan and Wood who would be match ready and two 18 year olds to develop. Bryan could then be out next year.
We would pick up as mids Prismall, Barham and Dyas. If we can't get Prismall then we should use the draft choice on a similar young player as in a mid.
with retirements we have 3 spots.
+ additional delisting (Richards & Davies) = 5 spots
- 2 rookie promotions (Clarke & Wellingham) = 3 spots
+ 1 of the following traded for draft pick upgrade (Lonie, Holland, Toovey, Egan) = 4 spots
In the draft - Pick 14 and 31 for Wood and 24 (maybe the upgrade player above comes in as steak knives here)
Pick 24 for Prismall.
Third round pick for Renton or Samplers new favourite ruckman.
Fourth round pick for Action Jaxson
I would also want to pick up another ruckman as a rookie. That would give us 3 new rucks. We would then have Fraser, Bryan and Wood who would be match ready and two 18 year olds to develop. Bryan could then be out next year.
We would pick up as mids Prismall, Barham and Dyas. If we can't get Prismall then we should use the draft choice on a similar young player as in a mid.
Retirements -----------(3)
Rookie promotion ------ 1
Delist Richards---------(1)
Add Wood--------------1
Trade for Wood--------(1)
Net loss of players-----(3)
If we trade pick 14 then we’d use 1 less draft pick.
Bloben
Premiership Player
oh. Just understood the part on the 3 draft minimum.
I guess if we traded pick 14 for Wood then we must use our 2nd, 3rd and 4th round pick for players. 4th for Jaxson and 2nd and 3rd on another mid and ruck.
For my scenario above it would not work as I suggested ontrading upgraded pick 24 for Prismall.
One way to fix this would be to then trade another fringe player for a pick directly. Say Holland for a clubs third round pick which we can use for a kid.
I guess if we traded pick 14 for Wood then we must use our 2nd, 3rd and 4th round pick for players. 4th for Jaxson and 2nd and 3rd on another mid and ruck.
For my scenario above it would not work as I suggested ontrading upgraded pick 24 for Prismall.
One way to fix this would be to then trade another fringe player for a pick directly. Say Holland for a clubs third round pick which we can use for a kid.
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You are proposing to draft only 2 players as bringing in Wood and promoting Clarke leaves only two places on the list. That is not allowed we must draft minimum of three players in the national draft.
That requires an additional delistment.
Davis delisted...is that extra spot.
Technically Bucks retirement only frees up a rookie spot as he was on the veteran's list.
Rocca/Burns are eligible to be moved onto the Veteran's List though so u would think they would move Rocca who is prob getting paid more (only half the salary of Veteran players are included in the cap)..
Davies is gone. Clarke is promoted.
Lica and Clement have retired.
Pebbles moved to Veteran's List.
With any luck Toovey will be the other one to go. But he looks like being the next Matthew Lokan a complete non-contributor who never performs in the 2s yet unjustifiably gets picked ahead of other blokes.
Rocca/Burns are eligible to be moved onto the Veteran's List though so u would think they would move Rocca who is prob getting paid more (only half the salary of Veteran players are included in the cap)..
Davies is gone. Clarke is promoted.
Lica and Clement have retired.
Pebbles moved to Veteran's List.
With any luck Toovey will be the other one to go. But he looks like being the next Matthew Lokan a complete non-contributor who never performs in the 2s yet unjustifiably gets picked ahead of other blokes.
Bloben
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I'm sure Mark can fight his own fights however I think that he allowed for Clarke and Wood. Delisting Richards would mean that we would still have 3 picks in the draft.
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His list added
Clarke, Wood
Departing he had
Bucks, Clem, Lica, Richards
That only leaves two free spots to draft players from the national draft, requiring an additional delistment.
Bloben
Premiership Player
Ah yes. I apologise.
I saw the trade for Wood and thought the trade was a player and not a pick.
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The feedback I received from sources in the football department.
There was also the incident in Adelaide that wouldnt of helped him.
My original point was that we’d have to trade to get Wood and we MIGHT not have to delist anyone but I would still delist Davies and Toovey regardless. The number work easily. If there are issues with Egan then heave him by all means but we don’t have to delist anyone we want for list management reasons.
Anyway, are you sure a rookie promotion doesn’t count as one of the 3 required additions?
Bloben
Premiership Player
I think it is an assumption based on a number of things.
This thread was started with a rumour about the club not being happy with him. Personally I would take that rumour for what it is at this stage.
Firstly He has a lethargic manner which the general public relate to not caring. Mark Waugh suffered from this through his entire career.
Secondly I would assume that people relate his attitude to the fact that he is yet to fully realise his potential. Might be a tad unfair due to his injury last season however people will always put down people not meeting their potential to having a poor work ethic and attitude.
Jabso
Brownlow Medallist
These are all assumptions just thrown at any talented player who sometimes look laconic and aren't good players yet.
People are saying there is no point in delisting Davies/Toovey etc, I think there is. We can try out a couple of ruckmen etc and see if they show anything, because we pretty much know that both Davies & Toovey don't have what it takes to be in the starting 22.
Bloben
Premiership Player
Correct.
I prefered Mark Waugh to Steve but many people see Steve as the better twin. I think Mark was much more talented but Steve had a bigger ticker.
I've also said that Egan would be worth keeping as he has more value to us with his potential than he would as a trade. I am not privy to any inside club information though.
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Lets be honest mate he had a good 2006 and should have cemented a spot in 2007.
He didnt cement that spot early in the season and his VFL efforts were substandard.
He finally got a chance in Adelaide and did well but then went against off field team rules and got himself suspended.
Subsequently he injured himself in the VFL.
His commitment to the rehab and training after that injury from what I hear was not first class.
Hes a talent, but we have plenty on our list and spots are at a premium, we dont need blokes who are not 100 per cent committed no matter how talented they are.
With Mattner going to the Swans I would think it would be unlikely that they would pick Lonie up as well. Depands on if there is any other clubs interested but I think the axe just started to get a little closer to his neck!
Disappointing if accurate.
What we do need to do though is make sure we do turn wasted talent around. I don’t know I agree with some of the talent assessments of Egan myself but if the club believes he has the ability they have to get it out of him. I won’t shed a tear if he is axed myself but if he is axed because he has a drink I’ll be disappointed unless there are really serious issue of being a disruptive influence. I am much more concerned that our players can play football than whether they are role models.
Jabso
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I don't think anyone is saying that, most are saying delist them both.
