Restricted Free Agent Luke Davies-Uniacke

[THE_GUN]

He will be the same age as Bolton and Baker who just walked out on Richmond and a year younger than Rioli.

Was that 3 massive kicks in the guts for the football club and you the supporter?

I know you are trying to make this about Richmond and deflecting from what i posted but what i am sure even you could realise is the 2 clubs are at extremely different stages

Richmond coming on 3 premierships and needing a rebuild cashing in 3 players like Rioli 28 and too old for our next premiership tilt
Baker in a similar spot to Rioli but no where near the class but a great clubman
Bolton which will hurt but the 2 x 1st round draft picks to kick start our rebuild in year 1

Richmond is expecting 3-4 years of being sh!t and rebuilding the dynasty team will be more accepting and tolerant in losing these players.

North is a totally different story in the 6/7 year of a stagnant rebuild and still struggling to keep players after so many years
finally have the talent to move out of the bottom 2 to then start losing top end talent is like 1 step foward 2 steps back and destined to continue the non stop rebuild yoyo

Very Very different situations , Hope that explains the difference

 

[jdstorm]

A fool and their money are soon departed.

Don't let your hatred for a team hurt your bank balance.

After 0-5 they won 13 of 16 including beating the premiers!! That's massive and have added Barrass and Battle.

Won’t hurt my bank balance too much. Have an annual bet with my father in law for a trivial amount that’s more bragging rights then anything else.

If they get the same friendly whistle they got against port they won’t loose many games but when I look at their side I’m not overly impressed with most of their players. Think they win with Effort and abrasiveness rather then talent.

Think Brisbane, Port, Sydney x2 and Geelong will fill in that top 4.

With 3 spots left in the 8 Hawks have to beat out a lot of talented teams who got significantly better this offseason.

Freo, Collingwood, Carlton, Saints, Suns even North loaded up. Only need a couple of those teams to ride up an easy draw and Hawks are on the outside looking in.

Then there’s the bulldogs. Most talented list in the comp but under bevo probably won’t put it together

 

[Wild Bill]

I know you are trying to make this about Richmond and deflecting from what i posted but what i am sure even you could realise is the 2 clubs are at extremely different stages

Richmond coming on 3 premierships and needing a rebuild cashing in 3 players like Rioli 28 and too old for our next premiership tilt
Baker in a similar spot to Rioli but no where near the class but a great clubman
Bolton which will hurt but the 2 x 1st round draft picks to kick start our rebuild in year 1

Richmond is expecting 3-4 years of being sh!t and rebuilding the dynasty team will be more accepting and tolerant in losing these players.

North is a totally different story in the 6/7 year of a stagnant rebuild and still struggling to keep players after so many years
finally have the talent to move out of the bottom 2 to then start losing top end talent is like 1 step foward 2 steps back and destined to continue the non stop rebuild yoyo

Very Very different situations , Hope that explains the difference

Fair enough - the glass is half full at your club but half empty at mine if a player leaves.

 

[perplexed]

North is a totally different story in the 6/7 year of a stagnant rebuild and still struggling to keep players after so many years
finally have the talent to move out of the bottom 2 to then start losing top end talent is like 1 step foward 2 steps back and destined to continue the non stop rebuild yoyo

North have had one player we wanted to keep leave in the last ten years. Richmond just had half its best players desert it.

Luke is going nowhere; his management are just trying to push up his price.

The irony of your post on the day that two of Richmond's best women players walked out on the club is delicious. Especially as the best one came to us.

 

[THE_GUN]

Fair enough - the glass is half full at your club but half empty at mine if a player leaves.

Yep 100%
Only due to where both clubs are at in their rebuild

LDU will be a massive setback both on field and off field as a team and supporter base

 

[THE_GUN]

North have had one player we wanted to keep leave in the last ten years. Richmond just had half its best players desert it.

Luke is going nowhere; his management are just trying to push up his price.

The irony of your post on the day that two of Richmond's best women players walked out on the club is delicious. Especially as the best one came to us.

* Players leaving is not a great thing but swings and roundabouts they leave and come thats no issue
Its players leaving after such a long rebuild process that hurts and sets the club back
But im glad you are more focussed about making this about Richmond players leaving rather than the player this topic is about LDU

AFLW - I have no clue who the players are apart from conti or care to be perfectly honest
but glad it gives you some joy

 

[Jesslc]

* Players leaving is not a great thing but swings and roundabouts they leave and come thats no issue
Its players leaving after such a long rebuild process that hurts and sets the club back
But im glad you are more focussed about making this about Richmond players leaving rather than the player this topic is about LDU

AFLW - I have no clue who the players are apart from conti or care to be perfectly honest
but glad it gives you some joy

Can you provide an example of a player leaving in "such a long rebuild" and setting back the club?

Deledio maybe? Vice captain leaves after building the club up over 8 years.... Rockliff... captain.

Seriously though, if you can grab a real example of this, that'd be helpful.

 

[Chip Scab1]

Yep 100%
Only due to where both clubs are at in their rebuild

LDU will be a massive setback both on field and off field as a team and supporter base

Yeah massive lol, we'll have the ability to match and get 3R1's, leave $1.6m to the rest of our young mids (some of whom can hit a moving target).

And most importantly, we have been shit for 5 years, winning a few games here and there, and the odd dead rubber. I'm not sure you can get worse than we have been, but should he leave we'll be well compensated and we'll match and force the other club into paying at least 3R1s + swap our R3 for their R2's - And still be left with a midfield group of Sheezel, McKercher, Wardlaw, O'Sullivan, Parker, Simpkin, Phillips, Braydo George will come back too + the picks. You'll be doing well in 4-5 years to be even able to match that, forget LDU being kept.

Our membership has grown significantly YOY throughout this period, what fans aren't going to want to hang around after swimming through a river of turd to get this far? Not to mention our actual home is probably the fastest growing (in terms of population) in the actual city (Zone 1 anyway).

 

[perplexed]

* Players leaving is not a great thing but swings and roundabouts they leave and come thats no issue
Its players leaving after such a long rebuild process that hurts and sets the club back
But im glad you are more focussed about making this about Richmond players leaving rather than the player this topic is about LDU

AFLW - I have no clue who the players are apart from conti or care to be perfectly honest
but glad it gives you some joy

Yes, it's about Luke. And you needn't be concerned for us, Luke isn't leaving. You seem to think he is part of some great player exodus that hasn't actually happened. Contrary to your thoughts, North have had no problems with player retention. I think you are projecting your anxieties about the Richmond situation onto us. I feel for you, when your second-best player takes a pay cut to play for North it should be concerning.

 

[Wild Bill]

Yep 100%
Only due to where both clubs are at in their rebuild

LDU will be a massive setback both on field and off field as a team and supporter base

As would any team losing 3 of their best 5 players. But you love to spin it as a win for your club but a massive loss for ours.

All your posting is so negative - maybe go for a walk and enjoy life.

 

[THE_GUN]

As would any team losing 3 of their best 5 players. But you love to spin it as a win for your club but a massive loss for ours.

All your posting is so negative - maybe go for a walk and enjoy life.

Hey you are the person that brought Richmond into this ?
I am only commenting on LDU and what effect that would have on the club and supporter base

You were the spinner in this conversation and trying to deflect from what i posted

 

[THE_GUN]

Yes, it's about Luke. And you needn't be concerned for us, Luke isn't leaving. You seem to think he is part of some great player exodus that hasn't actually happened. Contrary to your thoughts, North have had no problems with player retention. I think you are projecting your anxieties about the Richmond situation onto us. I feel for you, when your second-best player takes a pay cut to play for North it should be concerning.

Thank you

 

[Wild Bill]

Hey you are the person that brought Richmond into this ?
I am only commenting on LDU and what effect that would have on the club and supporter base

You were the spinner in this conversation and trying to deflect from what i posted

lol commenting of the effect!! Give me a break - your guess work on what it would do is deluded.

 

[Jen2310]

Sounds like he is on the verge of re-signing

 

[Wild Bill]

Sounds like he is on the verge of re-signing

That’s great news. Apparently the sky would fall if he didn’t.

 

[THE_GUN]

That’s great news. Apparently the sky would fall if he didn’t.

The highlighted comment is proof alone of supporters feelings
You have just confirmed my opinion

I applaud you Bill

 

[Rich01]

Yeah massive lol, we'll have the ability to match and get 3R1's, leave $1.6m to the rest of our young mids (some of whom can hit a moving target).

And most importantly, we have been shit for 5 years, winning a few games here and there, and the odd dead rubber. I'm not sure you can get worse than we have been, but should he leave we'll be well compensated and we'll match and force the other club into paying at least 3R1s + swap our R3 for their R2's - And still be left with a midfield group of Sheezel, McKercher, Wardlaw, O'Sullivan, Parker, Simpkin, Phillips, Braydo George will come back too + the picks. You'll be doing well in 4-5 years to be even able to match that, forget LDU being kept.

Our membership has grown significantly YOY throughout this period, what fans aren't going to want to hang around after swimming through a river of turd to get this far? Not to mention our actual home is probably the fastest growing (in terms of population) in the actual city (Zone 1 anyway).

An RFA for 3 first rounders and additional second rounders?
Unheard of.

And if he leaves he frees up $1.6m a year in north cap space? Is that the North offer to him? If so, if he hasn’t bitten Brady’s arm off to sign that contract, he’s obviously gone.

 

[Wild Bill]

The highlighted comment is proof alone of supporters feelings
You have just confirmed my opinion

I applaud you Bill

I’m just glad the sky didn’t fall chicken little.

 

[L_W_P]

Yeah massive lol, we'll have the ability to match and get 3R1's, leave $1.6m to the rest of our young mids (some of whom can hit a moving target).

And most importantly, we have been shit for 5 years, winning a few games here and there, and the odd dead rubber. I'm not sure you can get worse than we have been, but should he leave we'll be well compensated and we'll match and force the other club into paying at least 3R1s + swap our R3 for their R2's - And still be left with a midfield group of Sheezel, McKercher, Wardlaw, O'Sullivan, Parker, Simpkin, Phillips, Braydo George will come back too + the picks. You'll be doing well in 4-5 years to be even able to match that, forget LDU being kept.

Our membership has grown significantly YOY throughout this period, what fans aren't going to want to hang around after swimming through a river of turd to get this far? Not to mention our actual home is probably the fastest growing (in terms of population) in the actual city (Zone 1 anyway).

Would be mismanagement from any club (not just mine) to hand over 3x 1st rounders AND pick swaps for LDU.

Just because the rules have changed, doesn't mean he's suddenly the most valuable prospect that's ever been.

If a club offered him $1.6m, and North matched it, then the Roos might well retain him. Then they have to figure out paying all those target hitting mids you talk about.

If a trade was to happen I can't see it being worth much more than the Bolton deal.

The appeal of LDU is that a club can, potentially, get him without giving up draft capital. If a trade has to happen then there's other players clubs could be targeting.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Sounds like he is on the verge of re-signing

Never in doubt

 

[Chip Scab1]

Would be mismanagement from any club (not just mine) to hand over 3x 1st rounders AND pick swaps for LDU.

Just because the rules have changed, doesn't mean he's suddenly the most valuable prospect that's ever been.

If a club offered him $1.6m, and North matched it, then the Roos might well retain him. Then they have to figure out paying all those target hitting mids you talk about.

If a trade was to happen I can't see it being worth much more than the Bolton deal.

The appeal of LDU is that a club can, potentially, get him without giving up draft capital. If a trade has to happen then there's other players clubs could be targeting.

Yours is the club! So 'My' Club is more appropriate.

I'm talking from the perspective of receiving 3R1's around Pick 20 from a team currently in the window (which you'd imagine would be his preference). Not pick 3x 6-12, which would be the offer and given you failed once again, to draft an 'A-Grade' mid, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

[Rich01]

Interesting that some North fans are bagging his kicking. I’ve always seen him as a clearance weapon, perhaps his disposal into 50 stops him from being elite?

 

[perplexed]

Interesting that some North fans are bagging his kicking. I’ve always seen him as a clearance weapon, perhaps his disposal into 50 stops him from being elite?

Pretty much. He doesn't use the time he has and regularly kicks it over the leading forward's head. Just needs to take a step to balance and take the easy option.

 

[L_W_P]

Yours is the club! So 'My' Club is more appropriate.

I'm talking from the perspective of receiving 3R1's around Pick 20 from a team currently in the window (which you'd imagine would be his preference). Not pick 3x 6-12, which would be the offer and given you failed once again, to draft an 'A-Grade' mid, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

Very different to say you'd be getting 3x first round picks + picks swaps to getting 3x picks around 20.

That puts it back in the realm of acceptable given it would likely be a 1st + F1st for LDU and maybe a F3rd. Something closer to the Bolton deal.

I guess it'll depend on the FA compo.

If North are bottom 2-3 again do you take pick 3 compo from the AFL or 2x pick 10-15ish from the Saints?

 

[Chip Scab1]

Very different to say you'd be getting 3x first round picks + picks swaps to getting 3x picks around 20.

That puts it back in the realm of acceptable given it would likely be a 1st + F1st for LDU and maybe a F3rd. Something closer to the Bolton deal.

I guess it'll depend on the FA compo.

If North are bottom 2-3 again do you take pick 3 compo from the AFL or 2x pick 10-15ish from the Saints?

very different or just you not taking into consideration what would actually happen?!

Why would any player leave us for St.Kilda? It's delusional on your part to consider you are closer to anything than even us. You're just not.

Once you factor in NGA's/Father Son's/Northern Academy picks, that will determine a Pick around 10 will be around 20. A natural Pick around 15, will likely be closer to 30 than 20.

We'd take Pick 3, obviously, but we should be folding in that scenario.