Luke Edwards Father/Son Discussion

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1970crow said:
Article in advertiser today suggests Edwards unlikely to nominate us. But the terminology is a bit weird, nominating us isn't "committing" to us and he would still be "available" to other clubs. I think that language casts doubt on the sources understanding the system, so I don't think this progresses our best guesswork one way or the other.

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**** him... if his dad wants to be a sooky flog that unhealthly holds onto his grudges then we dont want his son..

seriously, what was the club meant to do?.. give up a list spot for a more promising player and hold onto Jackson just to appease his old man?.. faaaark off!

be funny if he doesnt nominate adelaide and then doesnt even get drafted!.. could very easily happen this year as list sizes are reduced.
 

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Bearded Clam said:
fu** him... if his dad wants to be a sooky flog that unhealthly holds onto his grudges then we dont want his son..

seriously, what was the club meant to do?.. give up a list spot for a more promising player and hold onto Jackson just to appease his old man?.. faaaark off!

be funny if he doesnt nominate adelaide and then doesnt even get drafted!.. could very easily happen this year as list sizes are reduced.
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Doesn't sound like they're going to reduce much.

Thing is, it's in his best interests to nominate. It assures him a spot on an AFL list after a bit of a down draft year. Bit like Jackson in that regard who looked promising in his underage year and didn't progress
 
Sanders said:
He probably does get drafted

doubt it’s within a range that will leave too concerned though

oh no 3rd/4th/5th round pick XYZ didn’t nominate us, allowing us a free run at a bland, meh level prospect
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You do have to wonder how a highly rated 16 year old kid, who got to play an entire year of footy in his draft year is going down draftboards when more then 60% of the prospects haven't played a game in 14 or so months.

As much as I like getting value, its hard to ignore the red flags of such a un-inspiring season from Luke. Right now i'm on the fence about him, and if his name wasn't Edwards, i'm not sure i'd be even in the yard
 
Betts are off said:
You do have to wonder how a highly rated 16 year old kid, who got to play an entire year of footy in his draft year is going down draftboards when more then 60% of the prospects haven't played a game in 14 or so months.

As much as I like getting value, its hard to ignore the red flags of such a un-inspiring season from Luke. Right now i'm on the fence about him, and if his name wasn't Edwards, i'm not sure i'd be even in the yard
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I don’t think he’s fallen to non-prospect

But he has fallen to nobody cares too much prospect
 
Mego Red said:
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise. We have so many young players coming in, it's hard to see where he'll get an opportunity. There will be a lot ahead of him - though I guess that should worry him more than us.

I'd be annoyed if we give a senior player one extra year instead of taking Edwards, though.
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It really isn't hard to see where a half back flanker/half forward would get opportunities. There isn't any depth in those positions and injuries/suspensions/bad runs of form happen.

Outside midfield might be one of our stronger positions, though that says a lot more about how dogshit we are elsewhere.

It would be one of the dumber things Adelaide has done this decade to turn down Edward's this draft. Anytime a club has access to a skillful player on the cheap (seeing this is unlikely to cost us more than a third), they should be crawling over broken glass to get them on the list. After all, skill is one of if not the most essential components to any great side.
 
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1970crow said:
Article in advertiser today suggests Edwards unlikely to nominate us. But the terminology is a bit weird, nominating us isn't "committing" to us and he would still be "available" to other clubs. I think that language casts doubt on the sources understanding the system, so I don't think this progresses our best guesswork one way or the other.

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It's an awkward one, isn't it? Maybe he's already told us he's unlikely to commit and you have to wonder whether we've breathed a sigh of relief. He's dropped off massively from where he was projected at the start of this year. Borlase has been steadily increasing, and has already been told by the Crows that they want to pick him up, and Newchurch has a high ceiling if we can get his attitude and work rate going. Edwards didn't exactly light up the combine, did he?

I think if he doesn't nominate us it would be quite embarrassing and confusing for supporters for us to simply pick him without a F/S discount. If he'd like to keep his options open then fair enough, but I'd be champing at the bit to get to the club my father played for, and I know supporters would want to see that dedication as well. If he doesn't nominate us I'd stay well clear. To be honest his dad sounds like douche, Jackson sounds like a douche (see 'Road to AFL video on YouTube), so chances are........

Whole family seems to have an air of entitlement, which I don't appreciate.
 
crow2crow said:
no surprise - too laissez fair - disappointing
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I don't believe there's any agenda or spitefulness on either sides part. More that we have a list and expect to recruit our preferred players before Edwards is an option. That's not to say he won't get picked by someone else, but we're not expecting to be involved.
 
Golumless said:
It really isn't hard to see where a half back flanker/half forward would get opportunities. There isn't any depth in those positions and injuries/suspensions/bad runs of form happen.

Outside midfield might be one of our stronger positions, though that says a lot more about how dogshit we are elsewhere.

It would be one of the dumber things Adelaide has done this decade to turn down Edward's this draft. Anytime a club has access to a skillful player on the cheap (seeing this is unlikely to cost us more than a third), they should be crawling over broken glass to get them on the list. After all, skill is one of if not the most essential components to any great side.
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The F/S discount when you start getting to the 3rd round is pretty insignificant, and we're still likely to have a bunch of players ahead of him when his name is called by another club. Also I know the club is dead keen on Borlase and Newchurch so need to keep points for both of them. I know I've harped on it before, but fully expecting Port to bid on Borlase earlier than most would think. And personally think he's worth it.
 
CrowsB4hoes said:
The F/S discount when you start getting to the 3rd round is pretty insignificant, and we're still likely to have a bunch of players ahead of him when his name is called by another club. Also I know the club is dead keen on Borlase and Newchurch so need to keep points for both of them. I know I've harped on it before, but fully expecting Port to bid on Borlase earlier than most would think. And personally think he's worth it.
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Then you bid on Jones and wipe Port out so they can't bid. Simple.
Port will have to trade a significant player out to get a draft pick that avoids that scenario.
 
Crowbots are dead said:
That’s not what he’s saying. He’s not a priority. He’s a fair way back in this year’s pecking order
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its all the same. excuses whatever you will he is way too laid back and may not even be selected like his brother

i suspect brodie will be good. my fear is though by next year the edwards clan is so off us that he will defect too
 
CrowsB4hoes said:
The F/S discount when you start getting to the 3rd round is pretty insignificant, and we're still likely to have a bunch of players ahead of him when his name is called by another club. Also I know the club is dead keen on Borlase and Newchurch so need to keep points for both of them. I know I've harped on it before, but fully expecting Port to bid on Borlase earlier than most would think. And personally think he's worth it.
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I was thinking mid to late 2nd (25-38) was where a bid would come in for Edwards. Seems to fit that point of the draft nicely, profile wise seeing he does tick a few boxes, as much as he didn't set the world on fire (though, was on track to put in an ok campaign, until he got concussed).

The chances of Port to bid on Borlace (and somewhat early) are incredibly remote. After all, Jones all but wipes out their draft hand and no team is going to trade up so they can bid on an NGA player. It's paranoia for paranoia sake.

It's not really about the draft discount at that point, it's about what we're getting a shot with for the equivalent of pick 40-50. The entire profile reads as "if it all works out (and there is a fair bit of risk that it doesn't, seeing he hasn't set the world alight), this is a guy you want somewhere on your list/lineup if you have serious premiership aspirations". Versatility (has played inside mid/half back/half forward in the last two years), top notch skills (including the praise "a terrific ball user" from the U18 SA coach in the middle of the year), good size, capable in the contest and defensively. Now, he might not make it as there is always the risk he gets exposed with the step up, and skills can be fickle in particular, but the payoff is certainly there and in a big way.

Really, for all three of our NGA players, it only question is list space. Points are easy to sort out, even if we have to give up a 2021 third to make sure we don't run into a deficit. We should be grabbing all three without any thought whatsoever if they are happy to come to us. I suspect the moment Edwards commits to us, we'll show we're dead keen on him as well, as we should be at that point.
 
Sanders said:
Seems to be precisely zero urgency or concern around Luke Edwards from the club

and all this horseshit about him being a first rounder this year from all the usual self-aggrandising posters seems to have died a quick hard death
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Yep. That thread called "Is Luke Edwards gone?" is pretty hilarious in retrospect.
 

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