Luke Edwards Father/Son Discussion

[BunjiMac]

Which is why I said the club needs to put in extra effort if they wanted to make past players feel welcome.

We also have to remember the Chappy/Roo/Burton/Pyke/Campo environment over the last few seasons - might not have been very welcoming to anyone.

Well we've only got a couple of legends and Macca is one.

There is something badly wrong when legends are made to feel like outsiders.

 

[Mutineer]

Well we've only got a couple of legends and Macca is one.

There is something badly wrong when legends are made to feel like outsiders.

I think it can be a 2 way street, a little extra effort on both sides of the equation.

I think some of it was a follow on from when he like a lot of the staff had to relinquish the positions due to the financial constraints that Covid has caused right across all AFL clubs.

IIRC Andrew's position with the AFLW team and some of his development roles were cut?

 

[BunjiMac]

I think it can be a 2 way street, a little extra effort on both sides of the equation.

I think some of it was a follow on from when he like a lot of the staff had to relinquish the positions due to the financial constraints that Covid has caused right across all AFL clubs.

IIRC Andrew's position with the AFLW team and some of his development roles were cut?

I can set that, but at the same time Macca has given so much to the club already.

Doesn't seem right to just treat him like a stranger off the street.

 

[crow2crow]

Which is why I said the club needs to put in extra effort if they wanted to make past players feel welcome.

We also have to remember the Chappy/Roo/Burton/Pyke/Campo environment over the last few seasons - might not have been very welcoming to anyone.

this goes back way further than everyone except roo

 

[1970crow]

I was thinking mid to late 2nd (25-38) was where a bid would come in for Edwards. Seems to fit that point of the draft nicely, profile wise seeing he does tick a few boxes, as much as he didn't set the world on fire (though, was on track to put in an ok campaign, until he got concussed).

The chances of Port to bid on Borlace (and somewhat early) are incredibly remote. After all, Jones all but wipes out their draft hand and no team is going to trade up so they can bid on an NGA player. It's paranoia for paranoia sake.

It's not really about the draft discount at that point, it's about what we're getting a shot with for the equivalent of pick 40-50. The entire profile reads as "if it all works out (and there is a fair bit of risk that it doesn't, seeing he hasn't set the world alight), this is a guy you want somewhere on your list/lineup if you have serious premiership aspirations". Versatility (has played inside mid/half back/half forward in the last two years), top notch skills (including the praise "a terrific ball user" from the U18 SA coach in the middle of the year), good size, capable in the contest and defensively. Now, he might not make it as there is always the risk he gets exposed with the step up, and skills can be fickle in particular, but the payoff is certainly there and in a big way.

Really, for all three of our NGA players, it only question is list space. Points are easy to sort out, even if we have to give up a 2021 third to make sure we don't run into a deficit. We should be grabbing all three without any thought whatsoever if they are happy to come to us. I suspect the moment Edwards commits to us, we'll show we're dead keen on him as well, as we should be at that point.

Port have been good at this lately. If they want Borlase it wouldn’t surprise to see them trade Wines if he’s happy to go, get Brouch with a band1 offer and wrangle a trade to make us match somewhat uncomfortably. Ultimately I think they get him after his initial contract with us making a tidy profit.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Well we've only got a couple of legends and Macca is one.

There is something badly wrong when legends are made to feel like outsiders.

It's a difficult one for clubs because players and coaches turnover so quickly

A player might come back to the club just 7-8 years after his playing career finishes and barely recognise a single face there.

No familiar face to gravitate to or chat to.

 

[ad victoriam]

Port have been good at this lately. If they want Borlase it wouldn’t surprise to see them trade Wines if he’s happy to go, get Brouch with a band1 offer and wrangle a trade to make us match somewhat uncomfortably. Ultimately I think they get him after his initial contract with us making a tidy profit.

Apart from his dad being a Past Port Player Borlase is not really a Port Boy, only reason he would leave the Crows would be for Money or Game time,

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Just sounds like us and the Edwards' family are both keeping their cards close to their chests.

We stuffed up the last one. Recruiters weren't keen, we strung him along (who drove this and why?), gifted him a token list spot, discarded him at the first opportunity.

Shouldn't have drafted him in the first place.

Both groups not keen for a repeat.

 

[SaltPeter]

Port have been good at this lately. If they want Borlase it wouldn’t surprise to see them trade Wines if he’s happy to go, get Brouch with a band1 offer and wrangle a trade to make us match somewhat uncomfortably. Ultimately I think they get him after his initial contract with us making a tidy profit.

Borlase went to PAC and plays for Sturt. Historically PAC only hire ex Port players as teachers and get them involved in their football program to help their development. Just not to send them down to the wharfs

 

[Mutineer]

Port have been good at this lately. If they want Borlase it wouldn’t surprise to see them trade Wines if he’s happy to go, get Brouch with a band1 offer and wrangle a trade to make us match somewhat uncomfortably. Ultimately I think they get him after his initial contract with us making a tidy profit.

I think this Borlase to Port talk is way, way overblown personally, this is not the Port Adelaide Magpies era this is the Port Adelaide Power era and the lad has come up through the grades at Sturt and Prince Alfred College which is about as far away from the old Port Magpies as you can get. I think it's just the old Port Magpies supporters that are hanging on to past glories that make a thing about it.

The lad himself has said his parents don't have a thing with it and are just happy to see him fulfilling his dreams to play AFL and he's said he's rapt with the way Adelaide have helped with his football development.

The way Thomas is talking the Port Magpies might meet the same demise as Carlton's VFL aligned team the Northern Blues/Bullants met.

SANFL's Port Adelaide Magpies could fall victim to coronavirus

Port Adelaide chief executive Keith Thomas admits the future of the AFL club's long-standing state league outfit could be in jeopardy.

www.theage.com.au

 

[crow2crow]

I think this Borlase to Port talk is way, way overblown personally, this is not the Port Adelaide Magpies era this is the Port Adelaide Power era and the lad has come up through the grades at Sturt and Prince Alfred College which is about as far away from the old Port Magpies as you can get. I think it's just the old Port Magpies supporters that are hanging on to past glories that make a thing about it.

The lad himself has said his parents don't have a thing with it and are just happy to see him fulfilling his dreams to play AFL and he's said he's rapt with the way Adelaide have helped with his football development.

agree he doesnt see himself as a wharfie

 

[Sanders]

Edwards won’t nominate only, and I mean only, if we show no interest

he’s not in the driving seat

 

[Golumless]

Port have been good at this lately. If they want Borlase it wouldn’t surprise to see them trade Wines if he’s happy to go, get Brouch with a band1 offer and wrangle a trade to make us match somewhat uncomfortably. Ultimately I think they get him after his initial contract with us making a tidy profit.

I don't see it at all with Borlase. If your Port, you don't trade upwards to make another team feel uncomfortable with a bid, as that is wasting collateral for no gain whatsoever (& the point that it'd make it uncomfortable for us, Port would end up with Borlase). I even would go so far to say I do not see Borlase ever playing for Port if we opt to take him as an NGA, unless he doesn't make it at Adelaide and for whatever reason, they want a crack at seeing if they can get him to click there. There really isn't a point to that move.

I could see them switching Wines for Brad Crouch mind you. That makes sense on their side at least.

 

[BrissyCrow]

I think it can be a 2 way street, a little extra effort on both sides of the equation.

I think some of it was a follow on from when he like a lot of the staff had to relinquish the positions due to the financial constraints that Covid has caused right across all AFL clubs.

IIRC Andrew's position with the AFLW team and some of his development roles were cut?

I cant agree with this. Its really up to the club to make sure that their legends feel they are exactly that. I believe that players like Roo, Mods, Jarmans, Edwards, Macca should all be heralded for their contribution to the club. The club has to chase them and not the other way around. The effort must come from the club.

 

[Mego Red]

At the very least they should feel welcome

Edwards said on the radio that he did feel welcome.

 

[1970crow]

Apart from his dad being a Past Port Player Borlase is not really a Port Boy, only reason he would leave the Crows would be for Money or Game time,

That's from his perspective, which I agree. Port will throw everything at him, money and game time to get him across. Assuming he's tracking well.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Just sounds like us and the Edwards' family are both keeping their cards close to their chests.

We stuffed up the last one. Recruiters weren't keen, we strung him along (who drove this and why?), gifted him a token list spot, discarded him at the first opportunity.

Shouldn't have drafted him in the first place.

Both groups not keen for a repeat.

Unfortunately it is a repeat of Jackson .....if Luke was a great talent, both club and Edwards would have already declared their mutual interest

Edwards non committal is because the Crows are non committal ......why would that be so, unless the Crows have big doubts

Not athletically blessed, what is Edwards role ......don't need another half back, and he doesn't fit the Nicks midfield model

Edwards best option IS to go into the open Draft IMO

 

[Mego Red]

Unfortunately it is a repeat of Jackson .....if Luke was a great talent, both club and Edwards would have already declared their mutual interest

Edwards non committal is because the Crows are non committal ......why would that be so, unless the Crows have big doubts

Not athletically blessed, what is Edwards role ......don't need another half back, and he doesn't fit the Nicks midfield model

Edwards best option IS to go into the open Draft IMO

Yeah, I agree. He's better off going to a mature side where he could maybe develop into a roleplayer for them over a couple of years.

We will have too many kids that we're trying to develop at the same time, and most of them will be a lot more credentialed than Edwards. He's going to be way back in the queue.

 

[Mutineer]

I cant agree with this. Its really up to the club to make sure that their legends feel they are exactly that. I believe that players like Roo, Mods, Jarmans, Edwards, Macca should all be heralded for their contribution to the club. The club has to chase them and not the other way around. The effort must come from the club.

Nope, it's give and take from both sides of that argument just the same as it is in any partnership.

 

[jenny61_99]

Not sure what he meant exactly, but this is what he said:


"For me the Crows - it doesn't really have that vibe, it doesn't have that vibe where it feels like you're really welcome there."

Didn’t they take down all the paraphernalia from the hay days? It‘s pretty bland and uninviting these days.

 

[spenze]

Didn’t they take down all the paraphernalia from the hay days? It‘s pretty bland and uninviting these days.

There is a massive picture of Rob Chapman hanging though, marking a football on top of Malcolm Blights shoulders.

 

[Ozzie]

There is a massive picture of Rob Chapman hanging though, marking a football on top of Malcolm Blights shoulders.

What in the under 7s?

 

[GrommoT]

Didn’t they take down all the paraphernalia from the hay days? It‘s pretty bland and uninviting these days.

 

[fortunatecrow]

He might prefer to get away from the pressure of being "son of" and be a little more anonymous somewhere other than Adelaide.

 

[Jirkago75]

fu** him... if his dad wants to be a sooky flog that unhealthly holds onto his grudges then we dont want his son..

seriously, what was the club meant to do?.. give up a list spot for a more promising player and hold onto Jackson just to appease his old man?.. faaaark off!

be funny if he doesnt nominate adelaide and then doesnt even get drafted!.. could very easily happen this year as list sizes are reduced.

Funny if we draft him with last pick and tell Tyson your not welcome at the club after your stupidity


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