List Mgmt. Luke Jackson - Yay or Nay?

[Snuffaluphagus]

Descent since I refuse to believe you actually agree Amiss was worst on ground, please list your top 10 KPFs

 

[Descent]

Descent since I refuse to believe you actually agree Amiss was worst on ground, please list your top 10 KPFs

Oops! That dislike was a misclick! Number of disposals and goals is a terrible way to measure performance of a key forward in a game where the ball lived at the other end. His ball use and movement through traffic was a class above, well, most of our players. Taberner could only dream of having that much footy nous.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Oops! That dislike was a misclick! Number of disposals and goals is a terrible way to measure performance of a key forward in a game where the ball lived at the other end. His ball use and movement through traffic was a class above, well, most of our players. Taberner could only dream of having that much footy nous.

I was like "but no, you are one of the good ones", so confused...

 

[Pussinbootz]

Has Tabs ever kicked more than 40 in a season?

 

[Ysaye]

Has Tabs ever kicked more than 40 in a season?

Closest he got was last season with 37 before injury.

I expect both Amiss and Taberner to play as our tall forwards next year.

Amiss SF: 12 disposals, 2 marks, 0.0.


Stats, you're welcome.

Sam Switowski SF: 9 disposals, 1 mark, 0.0

Stats, you are welcome.

 

[dominguez]

Was all for getting Jackson but have shifted 180 degrees. Doesn't seem right. Firstly he doesn't nominate us, secondly, no way he's worth two first round draft picks. Walk away.

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They'll be mid to late 1st rounders though which are hit and miss selections. If we could trade Sturt and Henry for Jackson we'd all take it.

 

[dominguez]

Jackson is a ruckman and not a a forward. If he replaces Lobb in that role, our forward line becomes worse than it already is.

How often does Lobb run under the footy or make a token one arm effort? If Jackson kicks 20 goals but consistently gives a contest and brings the ball to ground he's an upgrade on Lobbster.

 

[Boomer93]

Amiss was worst on ground in the SF. Taberner is one of the best key forwards in the league. Amiss will be good with time but this is not a "question mark" at all. Taberner plays every game if he's fit.

Jackson is a ruckman and not a a forward. If he replaces Lobb in that role, our forward line becomes worse than it already is.

Please tell me you forgot about Brandon Walker. Please. You can have any crazy ass opinion you want. But if you think Amiss game was worse then Walkers game (which is one of the worst games I can ever remember) then you truly have no idea.

 

[King Tenz]

Please tell me you forgot about Brandon Walker. Please. You can have any crazy ass opinion you want. But if you think Amiss game was worse then Walkers game (which is one of the worst games I can ever remember) then you truly have no idea.

F*ck. I'm getting annoyed just thinking about Brandon Walker in that game... What the absolute f*ck was that performance?

 

[Boomer93]

F*ck. I'm getting annoyed just thinking about Brandon Walker in that game... What the absolute f*ck was that performance?

Was an all time shocker.

The teenager has some incredible potential. But he quite clearly lacks composure. The writing was on the wall after the Bulldogs game. Wilson should have been brought in for him.

 

[hoss]

I really dont want to have to spend 10 minutes explaining how those two statements are completely ridiculous. You're the one that said them, surely the onus is on you to demonstrate how those two statements are true. I would like 1 shred of evidence to suggest Amiss was worst on ground (I'll settle for you finding one other person that agree's with you) and that Tabs is in the best 10 KPF's in the league

Completely ridiculous? Maybe about Amiss's SF but you're very harsh on Taberner.

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[Snuffaluphagus]

Completely ridiculous? Maybe about Amiss's SF but you're very harsh on Taberner.

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Look, im extra annoyed at the Amiss one but being unbiased, Tabs flat out isn’t one of the best KPFs in the league even with the disclaimer of ‘if healthy’ (which is half the problem). Who’s your top 15 in order?

 

[Descent]

Adelaide: Walker
Brisbane: Daniher
Carlton: McKay, Curnow
Collingwood:
Essendon: Wright
Geelong: Hawkins, Cameron
Gold Coast: Chol, King
GWS:
Hawthorn: Lewis

Okay, that’s 10 better than Tabs and I’m only halfway through the clubs. Maybe generous on Daniher and Lewis.

 

[Joao]

Adelaide: Walker
Brisbane: Daniher
Carlton: McKay, Curnow
Collingwood:
Essendon: Wright
Geelong: Hawkins, Cameron
Gold Coast: Chol, King
GWS:
Hawthorn: Lewis

Okay, that’s 10 better than Tabs and I’m only halfway through the clubs. Maybe generous on Daniher.

I'd take Tabs over Daniher. Sure, Tabs would be injured and miss the finals, but its better than playing 1 down.

 

[Descent]

I'd take Tabs over Daniher. Sure, Tabs would be injured and miss the finals, but its better than playing 1 down.

Yeah, I’ll happily concede that.

And would concede on Lewis, too.

 

[King Tenz]

Adelaide: Walker
Brisbane: Daniher
Carlton: McKay, Curnow
Collingwood:
Essendon: Wright
Geelong: Hawkins, Cameron
Gold Coast: Chol, King
GWS:
Hawthorn: Lewis

Okay, that’s 10 better than Tabs and I’m only halfway through the clubs. Maybe generous on Daniher and Lewis.

I'd take Daniher over Tabs everyday. That's not generous.

 

[bushchook]

How often does Lobb run under the footy or make a token one arm effort? If Jackson kicks 20 goals but consistently gives a contest and brings the ball to ground he's an upgrade on Lobbster.

Why would you think Jackson would kick 20 goals though? He averages 0.6 goals for game throughout his career.

 

[bushchook]

Adelaide: Walker
Brisbane: Daniher
Carlton: McKay, Curnow
Collingwood:
Essendon: Wright
Geelong: Hawkins, Cameron
Gold Coast: Chol, King
GWS:
Hawthorn: Lewis

Okay, that’s 10 better than Tabs and I’m only halfway through the clubs. Maybe generous on Daniher and Lewis.

We get it, you don't rate Taberner. Repeating yourself doesn't make you right though.

 

[bushchook]

Look, im extra annoyed at the Amiss one but being unbiased, Tabs flat out isn’t one of the best KPFs in the league even with the disclaimer of ‘if healthy’ (which is half the problem). Who’s your top 15 in order?

Taberner was in the All Australian squad in 2020. So there's someone out there that rates him, even if his own supporters don't.

 

[nurries]

Taberner was in the All Australian squad in 2020. So there's someone out there that rates him, even if his own supporters don't.

I think Tabs would be a good forward due to work rate etc. the problem is he is injured half the time

 

[Stinky Lomax]

Why would you think Jackson would kick 20 goals though? He averages 0.6 goals for game throughout his career.

Generally as players get older & stronger they improve their output. He’s 3 years into his career & has plenty of room for improvement through experience.

You also have no idea on what his role is at Melbourne in regards to his forward play & what they consider a positive outcome. I’d suggest winning games is probably their indicator as they’ve they’ve performed well with him in their lineup.

If he gets to Fremantle & is given the opportunities Lobb is given in regards to an inside 50 target, he will easily kick 20+ goals.

 

[mayne iac]

Amiss was worst on ground in the SF. Taberner is one of the best key forwards in the league. Amiss will be good with time but this is not a "question mark" at all. Taberner plays every game if he's fit.

Jackson is a ruckman and not a a forward. If he replaces Lobb in that role, our forward line becomes worse than it already is.

I disagree completely re Amiss
Mark Duffield disagrees also

 

[cardamon]

I came here for a Jackson update and now I want to know what the frick Roller Hockey is. All I can picture is various sized men elbowing and shoving each other like in the movie Whip It.

Ice hockey on concrete! Scrappy stuff

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Taberner was in the All Australian squad in 2020. So there's someone out there that rates him, even if his own supporters don't.

All Australian squad one time 2 years ago doesnt get you into "best KPFs in the league"...

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We get it, you don't rate Taberner. Repeating yourself doesn't make you right though.

Seriously, where's your list of top 10 KPFs?