News Mackay re-signs for 2021 + Gallucci, Poholke, Crocker delisted

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Finally Polk is off the list! Never looked like it at AFL level.
You can't have these hacks on your list especially when bringing in top young talent, training standards are crucial to fast tracking our squad.
 

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If the option is Mackay, or taking pick 55 in the draft... I'm taking pick 55 in the draft

Correct, but I'll go one step further.

Why isn't the choice to keep a list spot open and have a mid-season 2021 draft choice?
AFL saying it will be back, and we get to see the vic players who haven't played this year, or any other bolters from lack of games in 2020.
 
In regards to the delistings:

Totally agree on Poholke. Could tell from the first game he played that he wouldn't make it.

Totally agree on Crocker. Not really sure why we traded him in tbh.

Gallucci. Somewhat unlucky but it's a good lesson to the young kids on our list to work your ass off otherwise your career can be over before it begins. Fogarty should be taking note. Gallucci was a very poor draft pick. From memory Pyke wanted him. One positive is that we don't have to see that ridiculous moustache anymore.

Mackay. Why? Would have trade him 4 or 5 years ago when he had a bit of value. I trust he won't play any more than a couple of AFL games and is on around 100k.
 
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In regards to the delistings:

Totally agree on Poholke. Could tell from the first game he played that he wouldn't make it.

Totally agree on Crocker. Not really sure why we traded him in tbh.

Gallucci. Somewhat unlucky but it's a good lesson to the young kids on our list to work your ass off otherwise your career can be over before it begins. Fogarty should be taking not. Gallucci was a very poor draft pick. From memory Pyke wanted him. One positive is that we don't have to see that ridiculous moustache anymore.

Mackay. Why? Would have trade him 4 or 5 years ago when he had a bit of value. I trust he won't play any more than a couple of AFL games and is on around 100k.

Pyke wanted speed especially through the midfield, which was 100% the correct call. He didn't want Galucci specifically. Hamish has to put his hand up and take responsibility for that. Sure he wanted a different type of player altogether, but when tasked with picking a speedy midfielder, he went with Galucci.
 
Pyke wanted speed especially through the midfield, which was 100% the correct call. He didn't want Galucci specifically. Hamish has to put his hand up and take responsibility for that. Sure he wanted a different type of player altogether, but when tasked with picking a speedy midfielder, he went with Galucci.
It was odd how Pyke wanted speed through the midfield then played Gallucci, the guy we drafted for that reason, in the forward pocket or flank
 

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In regards to the delistings:

Totally agree on Poholke. Could tell from the first game he played that he wouldn't make it.

Totally agree on Crocker. Not really sure why we traded him in tbh.

Gallucci. Somewhat unlucky but it's a good lesson to the young kids on our list to work your ass off otherwise your career can be over before it begins. Fogarty should be taking not. Gallucci was a very poor draft pick. From memory Pyke wanted him. One positive is that we don't have to see that ridiculous moustache anymore.

Mackay. Why? Would have trade him 4 or 5 years ago when he had a bit of value. I trust he won't play any more than a couple of AFL games and is on around 100k.
Seems we heard that before.
 
What is the big picture if not continuation of the small picture of focussing 100% on the 4 points on offer next weekend. We don't do big picture.

As for Big Picture, any team that want to improve there Kids and advance up the ladder also needs experience in the side, whether they play or don't Play, Wise heads make a difference, AFL is full of teams that adopted the Youth and no experience policy and they are still struggling to play in the Finals, Richmond after years of mediocre performance set the Barr for a Balance team, They showed the Carlton's, Melbourne's and Gold Coast, that just having the best Kids does not grantee success, you need wise heads, You need solid backups who can come into aside and give it there best, Every AFL side will have Joe Average.
MacKay a Finge player, But so were the Others, the only difference I see was his work ethic and his ability to help others, and we are talking 1 year, Next year the team a Year Older, and the balance will be better,

But In recent times this MacKay shit has gotten out of hand and filled with more hate than it needs,
There No Problem with good discussions around selection issues, that part of the Game, but the pure hatred is not healthy for the team and more importantly for the posters.
 
Pyke wanted speed especially through the midfield, which was 100% the correct call. He didn't want Galucci specifically. Hamish has to put his hand up and take responsibility for that. Sure he wanted a different type of player altogether, but when tasked with picking a speedy midfielder, he went with Galucci.
Have you had a look at the midfielders drafted after Jordan Gallucci in 2016?
At the pick Gallucci was taken at if Hamish was told a midfielder with top end speed was at the top of the shopping list I can't see too many, if any mids that fitted that bill better than Gallucci. Shai Bolton has played some midfield and has good speed but he was drafted as a small forward.
It might surprise you but Myles Poholke actually tested sub 3.00 secs at that year's combine.

Josh Williams (Roos Academy pick 36) went top 4 in the 20m sprint with a time of 2.93 sec has played the royal sum of 2 AFL games.

 
Brown was via trade.
In that Case then So was Brad Crouch,
 
So we have Brad Crouch whose high maintenance and a poor preparer that we didn't notice for over 7 years.

Now we have Gooch whose lazy and unprofessional that it took us 4 years to notice.

Not actually arguing that either of those is wrong.

My question is who the f walks the corridors down at AFC that doesn't notice all these things for years? Perhaps we just had some she'll-be-righters and now we have someone who isn't, sorting the place out, or perhaps the previous ones were just incompetent or avoided the hard work and hard convos etc.
 
Have you had a look at the midfielders drafted after Jordan Gallucci in 2016?
At the pick Gallucci was taken at if Hamish was told a midfielder with top end speed was at the top of the shopping list I can't see too many, if any mids that fitted that bill better than Gallucci. Shai Bolton has played some midfield and has good speed but he was drafted as a small forward.
It might surprise you but Myles Poholke actually tested sub 3.00 secs at that year's combine.

Josh Williams (Roos Academy pick 36) went top 4 in the 20m sprint with a time of 2.93 sec has played the royal sum of 2 AFL games.

I get that, but if we give him credit for the ones that work out, he likewise has to take ownership of the ones that fail. You can't just pick and choose.

Sure the club and player has a part to play, but a big part of his job is trying to predict how a player might develop (or not).
 
I get that, but if we give him credit for the ones that work out, he likewise has to take ownership of the ones that fail. You can't just pick and choose.

Sure the club and player has a part to play, but a big part of his job is trying to predict how a player might develop (or not).
Maybe we do but Gallucci is just about the worst exanple you could possibly find knowing full well that there was "interference" from above his pay level. Phil Bunn who was one of our key scouts at the time made it well known in an interview on trade radio a couple of years ago that Tim English was the player Hamish had settled on with the Gallucci pick but was overruled by Pyke who wanted speed.
 
Maybe we do but Gallucci is just about the worst exanple you could possibly find knowing full well that there was "interference" from above his pay level. Phil Bunn who was one of our key scouts at the time made it well known in an interview on trade radio a couple of years ago that Tim English was the player Hamish had settled on with the Gallucci pick but was overruled by Pyke who wanted speed.
Not disputing that at all.

I understand that wasn't who Hamish wanted.

But ultimately Pyke didn't say pick Galluci, he said give me a midfielder with speed. Hamish made the decision to pick Galucci and something in the formula failed to predict how Galucci would ultimately end up. I know it's extremely difficult to predict these things, but it is 100 percent his job to do this, hence why I think he can't just wash his hands of it and blame Pyke.
 
Maybe we do but Gallucci is just about the worst exanple you could possibly find knowing full well that there was "interference" from above his pay level. Phil Bunn who was one of our key scouts at the time made it well known in an interview on trade radio a couple of years ago that Tim English was the player Hamish had settled on with the Gallucci pick but was overruled by Pyke who wanted speed.
I'd love to hear that interview...
 

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