Conspiracy Theory Mandates, Lockdowns, Covid-19, SARS-Cov-2 Thread - Get vaccinated.

[Malifice]

I'm looking for the video now, what happens when you see it?

If they said it, it's not misinformation. No rules were broken.

So far the only evidence we have is Biden saying 'you're less likely to get COVID when vaccinated' and the seeking to reinforce that point with 'you wont get sick, you wont get covid, and you wont die'.

So a technicality, even though the Prez was clearly not saying 'Vaccines make you immune'. I have to concede an idiot could somehow interpret that speech to mean 'vaccines make you immune from COVID' and seeing as Stokey is an idiot, he gets a pass on the Prez.

His second bit of 'evidence' posted was Faucci saying 'The vaccines dont give you full protection and breaktrhoughs occur' as literally the first thing out of his mouth, so that's going to be hard for him to say 'Actually he was REALLY saying that the vaccines give total immunity'.

It's evidence of the fact Stokey is wrong. Nothing more.

 

[Stokey]

Literally the first words out of his mouth, at the start of the interview:

'It's important to note Chris, that there are certainly breakthrough infections...

So, no. That's not it.

Did you even ******* watch the video?

Did you. He backed up the CDC's no mask guidance and said it is extremely low chance of transmission and used the Yankees as an example.

You can play semantics all you want but the message the CDC and Fauci were sending was that if a vaccinated you won't pass it on.

They no longer hold this position and re-introduced a mask mandate. Were they spreading misinformation?

 

[Stokey]

 

[Slippery Pete]

This may be the tweet.

There was a video of them saying it but that has been removed.

I think you've got less than an hour to back this up.

All three of those quotes are in this video.

 

[Malifice]

Can you post the entire article?

She's not saying here that it stops you getting infected, she's saying preliminary vaccine data suggests that it stops you getting infected or getting sick.

The tweet was from 16 months ago. When was that interview given?

That to me looks like a statement of hope 'preliminary data suggests', and not one of objective fact 'the vaccine will'.

 

[CM86]

This is an outright lie.

The head of the CDC, Fauci, Biden all said you will not catch Covid if you are vaccinated.

It's the exact reason the term 'breakthrough infections' was coined.

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[Fwoy]

High paid media mouthpiece seemed pretty adamant it stopped the virus from spreading.

 

[Malifice]

All three of those quotes are in this video.

No, they're not.

 

[Stokey]

Can you post the entire article?

She's not saying here that it stops you getting infected, she's saying preliminary vaccine data suggests that it stops you getting infected or getting sick.

The tweet was from 16 months ago. When was that interview given?

That to me looks like a statement of hope 'preliminary data suggests', and not one of objective fact 'the vaccine will'.

So they lifted mask mandates based on hope?

 

[Malifice]

High paid media mouthpiece seemed pretty adamant it stopped the virus from spreading.

She's half right. The vaccines do stop the infection. Not perfectly, and that protection wanes, but they do stop it.

Is she some kind of a scientist or something? What's her credentials and why should we listen to her anyway?

 

[CM86]

All three of those quotes are in this video.

When people get vaccinated, they can feel safe that they’re not gonna get infected/cut offf What did he say next, Pete?

 

[Malifice]

So they lifted mask mandates based on hope?

No, it was lifted because enough people were now vaccinated (or been naturally exposed) to make wearing of masks a little pointless.

 

[Chief]

All three of those quotes are in this video.

Yes: the editing of that video makes it misinformation.

They have cut out the caveats, the clarifications, and basically the context.

Stop passing that around. It's dishonest.

 

[Fwoy]

She's half right. The vaccines do stop the infection. Not perfectly, and that protection wanes, but they do stop it.

Is she some kind of a scientist or something? What's her credentials and why should we listen to her anyway?

You know what, we agree on something. Why should we listen to her?

 

[Stokey]

No, it was lifted because enough people were now vaccinated (or been naturally exposed) to make wearing of masks a little pointless.

I'm talking about the first lifting of mandates by the CDC before they were re-introduced.

 

[CM86]

This may be the tweet.

There was a video of them saying it but that has been removed.

BULLSHIT!
Transcript: All In with Chris Hayes, 5/17/21
FAUCI: Well, to be honest with you, Chris, I found out about it a couple of hours before it was announced. But the science behind it, I mean, obviously, there`s discussion and concern about the abruptness of the announcement and all that, but the science behind it, the fact that we know now that these vaccines are highly, highly effective, number one.

Number two, they`re really, really good against variants. I mean, the predominant variant in our country is the 117, the one that originated the U.K., it protects very well against that. And the other thing is that, and this relates to the New York Yankees situation, is that we`re learning now with recent studies, that even if you do get a breakthrough infection, when you`re vaccinated, the chances of you are transmitting it to someone else is exceedingly low.


So, low likelihood of transmission, low likelihood of getting infected. When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms. And because of that, that was the accumulating scientific data that prompted the CDC to make that recommendation, that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected.

So, low likelihood of transmission, low likelihood of getting infected. When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms. And because of that, that was the accumulating scientific data that prompted the CDC to make that recommendation, that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected.

There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event. So, the bottom line trust is good news. And in many respects, it really is a big, you know, endorsement for why people should be getting vaccinated.

 

[Malifice]

So at this stage, we have

1) Joe Biden clearly talking for some time that 'the vaccines reduce your chances of getting sick' and later in the same speech stating 'they stop you getting it, they stop you dying and they stop you getting sick'.

Technically he said 'they stop you getting sick' even though he didnt mean 'make you immune' but as I said, I'll take that on a technicality.

Can someone please provide me with the full transcript of the CDC interview. From the looks of it, its a sound bite, and the Director isnt saying the Vaccine makes you immune, she's talking about preliminary data indicating it might.

And has anyone found anything from Faucci saying 'the vaccine makes you immune'. Im still waiting on that one, and we're down to 15 minutes.

 

[Stokey]

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Lol.

Getting people banned is a bit of a fetish for you isn't it.

 

[Chief]

Lol.

Getting people banned is a bit of a fetish for you isn't it.

You're doing a good job of it. You don't need his help.

 

[Malifice]

BULLSHIT!
Transcript: All In with Chris Hayes, 5/17/21
FAUCI: Well, to be honest with you, Chris, I found out about it a couple of hours before it was announced. But the science behind it, I mean, obviously, there`s discussion and concern about the abruptness of the announcement and all that, but the science behind it, the fact that we know now that these vaccines are highly, highly effective, number one.

Number two, they`re really, really good against variants. I mean, the predominant variant in our country is the 117, the one that originated the U.K., it protects very well against that. And the other thing is that, and this relates to the New York Yankees situation, is that we`re learning now with recent studies, that even if you do get a breakthrough infection, when you`re vaccinated, the chances of you are transmitting it to someone else is exceedingly low.


So, low likelihood of transmission, low likelihood of getting infected. When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms. And because of that, that was the accumulating scientific data that prompted the CDC to make that recommendation, that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected.

So, low likelihood of transmission, low likelihood of getting infected. When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms. And because of that, that was the accumulating scientific data that prompted the CDC to make that recommendation, that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected.

There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event. So, the bottom line trust is good news. And in many respects, it really is a big, you know, endorsement for why people should be getting vaccinated.

Good find. Yet another quote clearly taken out of context and used for misinformation purposes. He is (again) clearly stating YOU WILL GET SICK WHEN YOU'RE VACCINATED, literally in the same paragraph.

It gets taken out of context by anti-vaxxers and tried to make it into him saying literally the opposite of what he's actually ****ing saying.

It wont count.

I think Faucci is going to be the thing that gets Stokey 5 points.

 

[Stokey]

So at this stage, we have

1) Joe Biden clearly talking for some time that 'the vaccines reduce your chances of getting sick' and later in the same speech stating 'they stop you getting it, they stop you dying and they stop you getting sick'.

Technically he said 'they stop you getting sick' even though he didnt mean 'make you immune' but as I said, I'll take that on a technicality.

Can someone please provide me with the full transcript of the CDC interview. From the looks of it, its a sound bite, and the Director isnt saying the Vaccine makes you immune, she's talking about preliminary data indicating it might.

And has anyone found anything from Faucci saying 'the vaccine makes you immune'. Im still waiting on that one, and we're down to 15 minutes.

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I think you conveniently missed this.

 

[Malifice]

Lol.

Getting people banned is a bit of a fetish for you isn't it.

Come on mate. You can do it.

Find me one from Faucci.

Ill give you the other two, even though you're clearly taking them both out of context.

If you can find me a Faucci quote, you get the win.

 

[Chief]

I think you conveniently missed this.

You're joking, yeah?

Screenie of a headline with no link.

Dude. You're not an idiot.

 

[Malifice]

I think you conveniently missed this.

No I didnt. That's a picture. Provide me a link to the quote, with the surrounding text please.

There has been a little too much deliberate misinformation or taking people out of context in this thread already.

I want to read the quote and the source please.

 

[Malifice]

You know what, we agree on something. Why should we listen to her?

Im not taking my medical advice from media people (or social media).

I take it from doctors, and they overwhelmingly support vaccination (including COVID vaccination).

Unless 'the evil Banking cabals' have gotten to all them as well, then they can be trusted.