Conspiracy Theory Mandates, Lockdowns, Covid-19, SARS-Cov-2 Thread - Get vaccinated.

[Gralin]

Why are they not the same? How would you describe someone who doesn't want a booster other than as anti-vaxx? Consider how many of them only got the first two doses due to mandates too.

Why is not having a third or fourth booster not the same as refusing to have any level of vaccination?
That's your question?
You sure?

 

[Stokey]

People that had no doses wouldn't take one for the team.

Very selfish.

But it didn't stop transmission. It only potentially stopped a vaccinated person from getting very sick. So how is it doing it for the team? Really seems like getting vaccinated only had a selfish outcone.

 

[Stokey]

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Stata don't lie either. Still the best way to not die if you get it.


Of course we've moved well away from not getting it which I still think is bad, but at least most people have some protection against death now

So by those stats getting more doses of the vaccine increases your risk, not decreases it.

Stats don't lie.

 

[Gralin]

So by those stats getting more doses of the vaccine increases your risk, not decreases it.

Stats don't lie.

Ah the dumb campaigner who can't math defence.

You really are that stupid yeah

 

[Gralin]

Seriously Chappy that math got disproved over a year ago when Alan Jones and Craig Kelly tried it on
Not only are you ****ing dumb for going there again but you're showing your absolute level of stupid

 

[Stokey]

Ah the dumb campaigner who can't math defence.

You really are that stupid yeah

Not stupid enough to get more than one booster.

 

[Stokey]

Seriously Chappy that math got disproved over a year ago when Alan Jones and Craig Kelly tried it on
Not only are you ******* dumb for going there again but you're showing your absolute level of stupid

They are your stats you have posted.

 

[MrKK]

Why is not having a third or fourth booster not the same as refusing to have any level of vaccination?
That's your question?
You sure?

Yes. They've been offered a vaccine and declined it, just as many of then would've done with the first dose if it wasn't for mandates. How would you describe them?

 

[MrKK]

People that had no doses wouldn't take one for the team.

Very selfish.

You're still running with the line that Covid vaccines benefit anyone other than the person taking it? Talk about misinformation.

Oh get *ed.

If today you're refusing to get vaccinated or take more jabs you are acting out of fear and ignorance.

No two ways about it.

Billions of doses and only ultra-rare side effects.

Stop eating cured meats if you are this freaked out about health risks.

Plenty of fear and ignorance going around then.

Or the actual trend that I've witnessed in my workplace: people had 3 (mandated by employer) jabs, then still got Covid and were sick for a week and are understandably questioning why they'd bother with a 4th.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

You're still running with the line that Covid vaccines benefit anyone other than the person taking it? Talk about misinformation.

It benefits the health system, which benefits everyone.

This has been explained many times, starting to think you guys are a bit slow on the uptake.

 

[Chief]

You're still running with the line that Covid vaccines benefit anyone other than the person taking it? Talk about misinformation.

Plenty of fear and ignorance going around then.

Or the actual trend that I've witnessed in my workplace: people had 3 (mandated by employer) jabs, then still got Covid and were sick for a week and are understandably questioning why they'd bother with a 4th.

Imagine how they'd have been without vaccination.

 

[Kurve]

Not stupid enough to get more than one booster.

Sitting two seats away from someone on a three hour flight who desperately tried not to cough his way through it, looked like he had a fever and struggled to breathe, took his mask off and kept his head down hoping nobody would notice.

If we'd had temperature screening before getting on, he would have been pulled.

Two boosters here, no regrets.

 

[bourbons]

No I wasn't. I was just pointing out the the same people that pushed to have them closed are now happily eating there again when the reality is nothing has changed from the original dispute.

No surprises you just saw, 'unvaxxed', lost your s**t, and missed the point.

Nothing has changed? Are there not a far greater number of people vaccinated now?

Again, would you have preferred people just shunned them forever?

 

[MrKK]

Imagine how they'd have been without vaccination.

Imagining is all we can do.

 

[Kurve]

Imagining is all we can do.

Imagining and continuing to ignore good data.

 

[Chief]

Imagining is all we can do.

Or, you know, look at the data.

 

[MrKK]

Imagining and continuing to ignore good data.

You can't extrapolate observational study data to predict the outcome for an individual with any kind of accuracy.

 

[Kurve]

You can't extrapolate observational study data to predict the outcome for an individual with any kind of accuracy.

I didn't think we needed to.

 

[MrKK]

I didn't think we needed to.

How else could you be so sure about the hypothetical unvaccinated Covid outcome for a vaccinated person?

You must have noticed the one consistency is the inconsistency. I have friends who had the Alpha strain in early 2020 but only found out through antibody testing after the fact as they weren't sick at the time. Then I have vaccinated colleagues who got it and were mildly sick for a day, then others in the same situation that were in bed for days on end.

Same with the jabs - some colleagues were not affected at all, others were off work for the week afterwards. There doesn't seem to be a pattern, which goes back to 2020 when we were worried about asymptomatic spread of a deadly virus.

 

[Kurve]

How else could you be so sure about the hypothetical unvaccinated Covid outcome for a vaccinated person?

It looks clear to me from the data that it's far safer and to our collective benefit to be vaccinated. Anybody still clinging on to anti-vaxx sentiment at this point has got issues imo and I've met a few.

 

[Stokey]

It looks clear to me from the data that it's far safer and to our collective benefit to be vaccinated. Anybody still clinging on to anti-vaxx sentiment at this point has got issues imo and I've met a few.

At this point the unvaxxed have zero restrictions on them. They can travel overseas, they can go to the football. They can do everything you can do.

I'd think they'd be pretty content with their current position.

 

[Chief]

How else could you be so sure about the hypothetical unvaccinated Covid outcome for a vaccinated person?

Probabilities.

PLEASE find out what that word means. You need to know.

 

[MrKK]

It looks clear to me from the data that it's far safer and to our collective benefit to be vaccinated. Anybody still clinging on to anti-vaxx sentiment at this point has got issues imo and I've met a few.

Law of averages says today you're more likely to meet someone who doesn't want another Covid vaccine jab than someone who does.

 

[Kurve]

At this point the unvaxxed have zero restrictions on them. They can travel overseas, they can go to the football. They can do everything you can do.

I'd think they'd be pretty content with their current position.

You think? I was sent on a long haul job with a hard core anti vaxxer recently and which I didn't know before accepting the job, he had covid a few months ago.

He's a wreck. Ten years younger than me he looks ten years older. Among other things, it became apparent real quck that as a professional driver and post covid, he can no longer night drive, headlights blind him and he's got a migraine in short time with an accompanying blood nose. Awesome when once you get through Adelaide, most oncoming lights are roadtrains.

I don't want to go on about it because there's fallout, he refused to do induction, RAT test and wear a mask when we got to the job.

Content? I dont think so. he should have got the vaccine.

 

[Stokey]

You think? I was sent on a long haul job with a hard core anti vaxxer recently and which I didn't know before accepting the job, he had covid a few months ago.

He's a wreck. Ten years younger than me he looks ten years older. Among other things, it became apparent real quck that as a professional driver and post covid, he can no longer night drive, headlights blind him and he's got a migraine in short time with an accompanying blood nose. Awesome when once you get through Adelaide, most oncoming lights are roadtrains.

I don't want to go on about it because there's fallout, he refused to do induction, RAT test and wear a mask when we got to the job.

Content? I dont think so. he should have got the vaccine.

My wife has struggled really badly with long Covid and she is triple vaxxed with Moderna. She is also not content.