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Mathew Stokes (Confirms he WON'T ask for a trade)
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Re: Matthew Stokes
No way he is worth that, nor would the club offer it.
For you it isn't.
No way he is worth that, nor would the club offer it.
GeeCats07
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Re: Matthew Stokes
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/eagles-eyeing-unlucky-mathew-stokes/story-e6frf9jf-1225781527638
Wouldn't be too upset if we got something good for him. Would give Gamble a better chance.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/eagles-eyeing-unlucky-mathew-stokes/story-e6frf9jf-1225781527638
Wouldn't be too upset if we got something good for him. Would give Gamble a better chance.
Driveby Punching
Rookie
Re: Matthew Stokes
Don't we have Pick 17 as Melbourne have Picks 1 + 2? I'd love to keep Stokes personally. After watching the 07 Granny replay I thought he was the player that went the hardest when we needed someone to go cannoning into the packs. I also used to love it in 07 and early 08 when he'd constantly find space about 15m out, receive a lace out pass from Moons and calmly slot it through. If he can recapture that form he definitely has a place in our side. Funnily enough I actually think he plays a Rooke like role at his best.
Re: Matthew Stokes
Oh yeah, winning the GF changed our draft position which was what I forgot.
Oh yeah, winning the GF changed our draft position which was what I forgot.
cats on a tree
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Re: Mathew Stokes
There are a lot of reasons why Stokes may leave... but my hope is that he stays.
1) he may want to go home
2) more money will be offered
3) no worry about his spot (he can play mid fielder as well)
4) longer contract may be offered than 2 years
But
1) will he have chance to have success with WC?
2) he showed loyalty to GFC and I think he loves playing for geelong
3) Bomber loves him and actually he mentioned Stokes as a young gun for next year in the GF press conference.
4) Stokes knows I am a huge fan....
I don't know but hope that does not happen
There are a lot of reasons why Stokes may leave... but my hope is that he stays.
1) he may want to go home
2) more money will be offered
3) no worry about his spot (he can play mid fielder as well)
4) longer contract may be offered than 2 years
But
1) will he have chance to have success with WC?
2) he showed loyalty to GFC and I think he loves playing for geelong
3) Bomber loves him and actually he mentioned Stokes as a young gun for next year in the GF press conference.
4) Stokes knows I am a huge fan....
I don't know but hope that does not happen
Re: Mathew Stokes
Did Stokesy have a Port Adelaide beanie on during the GF ? Anything in that??
Did Stokesy have a Port Adelaide beanie on during the GF ? Anything in that??
Re: Mathew Stokes
except home is in SA i think...
There are a lot of reasons why Stokes may leave... but my hope is that he stays.
1) he may want to go home
2) more money will be offered
3) no worry about his spot (he can play mid fielder as well)
4) longer contract may be offered than 2 years
But
1) will he have chance to have success with WC?
2) he showed loyalty to GFC and I think he loves playing for geelong
3) Bomber loves him and actually he mentioned Stokes as a young gun for next year in the GF press conference.
4) Stokes knows I am a huge fan....
I don't know but hope that does not happen
except home is in SA i think...
Re: Mathew Stokes
Wouldn't have called it a PA beanie, there wasn't any uh... "teal" on it
Wouldn't have called it a PA beanie, there wasn't any uh... "teal" on it
rocker_oz33
TheBrownDog
Re: Mathew Stokes
l have always like stokey from the moment l first seen him play and the way he handled himself before and after the grand final was all class.l hope he stays but there will be some very hard questions asked to some players about money etc.something got to give the club as been very successful for 3 years now you would think one ruckman will go.and one small/mid forward seeing that there will a fight for those spots with gamble varcoe jr and moptop along with stokes.tough times this trade/contract period very tough times.
l have always like stokey from the moment l first seen him play and the way he handled himself before and after the grand final was all class.l hope he stays but there will be some very hard questions asked to some players about money etc.something got to give the club as been very successful for 3 years now you would think one ruckman will go.and one small/mid forward seeing that there will a fight for those spots with gamble varcoe jr and moptop along with stokes.tough times this trade/contract period very tough times.
Re: Mathew Stokes
wouldn't be surprised if several of our SA imports get given a "go home" package for picks to be honest.
wouldn't be surprised if several of our SA imports get given a "go home" package for picks to be honest.
Re: Matthew Stokes
Damn Scarlett and his superfluous feet.
The perils of winning a Grand Final........
Damn Scarlett and his superfluous feet.
Re: Matthew Stokes
WC - Stokes
Cats - Drum
Freo - WC 2nd round pick
WC - Stokes
Cats - Drum
Freo - WC 2nd round pick
Brasil2007
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Re: Matthew Stokes
I agree. The only way he'll go is if he wants to. And if he wants to then as in every other case recently he'll go with the club's best wishes (and for what it's worth mine as well). He's been a gamebreaker at times, especially in his golden year of 2007.
Of course if he goes then he'll have to face Scarlett and Moons on the ground at some stage - they seem to delight in picking out blokes that used to play for the club...
I agree. The only way he'll go is if he wants to. And if he wants to then as in every other case recently he'll go with the club's best wishes (and for what it's worth mine as well). He's been a gamebreaker at times, especially in his golden year of 2007.
Of course if he goes then he'll have to face Scarlett and Moons on the ground at some stage - they seem to delight in picking out blokes that used to play for the club...
kellykellykelly
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Re: Mathew Stokes
will never happen, but i reckon Gamble would be a good fit at St.Kilda.
They need a mid-sized, lead up forward, and he is just that. He would also add a bit of flair.
will never happen, but i reckon Gamble would be a good fit at St.Kilda.
They need a mid-sized, lead up forward, and he is just that. He would also add a bit of flair.
Re: Mathew Stokes
Didn’t Stokes play in the State Game 18 months ago? Or did he miss out? He was definitely in the squad.
I don’t think we are short on small forwards and if it allows us to free some salary cap space and get a lowish draft pick in, perhaps it’s palatable. Eagles second rounder is appealing, as a starting point. Something else as well. We won’t get what he is worth, that is for sure.
Personally, I’d like him to stay, get super fit and play through the midfield next year, allowing us to rest our champion midfielders and eek one more premiership out them.
Didn’t Stokes play in the State Game 18 months ago? Or did he miss out? He was definitely in the squad.
I don’t think we are short on small forwards and if it allows us to free some salary cap space and get a lowish draft pick in, perhaps it’s palatable. Eagles second rounder is appealing, as a starting point. Something else as well. We won’t get what he is worth, that is for sure.
Personally, I’d like him to stay, get super fit and play through the midfield next year, allowing us to rest our champion midfielders and eek one more premiership out them.
Re: Mathew Stokes
It'll be very interesting, it's a toss a the coin between Stokes & Gamble. If it was'nt for Bomber stating this past week that we might have to off load a couple to keep our A-TEAM togethor, i would've given Gamble in particular one last year to get his body right, head right and have one biig crack at it. He still might be put up for offers but at this very time & moment has he enough currency to get someone out of.
Stokes in principle has got some mileage behind him, too good of mileage to let him go. He may have learnt the team etho's now work, and deep down he might become a better person/ftballer for it.
It'll be very interesting, it's a toss a the coin between Stokes & Gamble. If it was'nt for Bomber stating this past week that we might have to off load a couple to keep our A-TEAM togethor, i would've given Gamble in particular one last year to get his body right, head right and have one biig crack at it. He still might be put up for offers but at this very time & moment has he enough currency to get someone out of.
Stokes in principle has got some mileage behind him, too good of mileage to let him go. He may have learnt the team etho's now work, and deep down he might become a better person/ftballer for it.
Scarlett Fever
Senior List
Re: Mathew Stokes
I would prefer to keep Gamble than Stokes if it comes down to a choice. Gamble had some high posession midfield games in the 2s towards the end of the year and I see him more playing a Chapman role in the future. He will never be as good as Chappy but running forward and being isolated inside 50 with an oposition midfielder as an opponent sounds good to me.
I like Stokes and hope they both stay. However, he competes with Varcoe and Byrnes and I can see Motlop and Varcoe the 2nd vying for those spots in the future.
I guess Gamble may just offer something more unique and Stokes is a little more replacable. Very close call call though and I can understand if others see it differently.
I would prefer to keep Gamble than Stokes if it comes down to a choice. Gamble had some high posession midfield games in the 2s towards the end of the year and I see him more playing a Chapman role in the future. He will never be as good as Chappy but running forward and being isolated inside 50 with an oposition midfielder as an opponent sounds good to me.
I like Stokes and hope they both stay. However, he competes with Varcoe and Byrnes and I can see Motlop and Varcoe the 2nd vying for those spots in the future.
I guess Gamble may just offer something more unique and Stokes is a little more replacable. Very close call call though and I can understand if others see it differently.
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Re: Mathew Stokes
Stokes has more currency in this market than Gamble. We will get a better return for Stokes than Gamble. Stokes will cost us more to keep than Gamble would.
On the field, with Stokesy, you know what you are going to get. His is a good player, but is arguably replaceable from our current squad as we have deprth at small forward. Heck, we just beat the second best team in the league without him playing, when he was available for selection.
Gamble on the other hand is a wildcard. His upside is probably higher than Stokes', but he could be a complete bust and give us nothing. He is also the type of player that if he is firing is harder to replace than Stokes.
At gunpoint, I would say keep Gamble and trade Stokes. I love Stokesy, but given that we are supposedly getting rid of players because of salary cap pressures, wouldn't it make sense to get rid of the guys who are on decent coin but can be replaced within the current squad?
I don't see that trading Gamble will alleviate any of our issues. But trading Stokes may.
Stokes has more currency in this market than Gamble. We will get a better return for Stokes than Gamble. Stokes will cost us more to keep than Gamble would.
On the field, with Stokesy, you know what you are going to get. His is a good player, but is arguably replaceable from our current squad as we have deprth at small forward. Heck, we just beat the second best team in the league without him playing, when he was available for selection.
Gamble on the other hand is a wildcard. His upside is probably higher than Stokes', but he could be a complete bust and give us nothing. He is also the type of player that if he is firing is harder to replace than Stokes.
At gunpoint, I would say keep Gamble and trade Stokes. I love Stokesy, but given that we are supposedly getting rid of players because of salary cap pressures, wouldn't it make sense to get rid of the guys who are on decent coin but can be replaced within the current squad?
I don't see that trading Gamble will alleviate any of our issues. But trading Stokes may.
Austin McCrabblett
Draftee
Re: Mathew Stokes
Gamble's agility and relatively unique height and athleticism (though Stokes does play tall for his height) are worth persevering with. He could be handy as a tall, running backman if given the chance (ie. as per the Mackie conversion). Has he ever been tried in this role in the VFL ?
Gamble's agility and relatively unique height and athleticism (though Stokes does play tall for his height) are worth persevering with. He could be handy as a tall, running backman if given the chance (ie. as per the Mackie conversion). Has he ever been tried in this role in the VFL ?
Re: Mathew Stokes
I dont want Stokesy to go either though I would rather keep Gamble. Kid is taller (and play staller than his height too,) 3 years younger, a better mark too. He isnt the same type of player as Stokes either - Stokes is more of a crumber where Gamble appears more lead and kick player.
I dont want Stokesy to go either though I would rather keep Gamble. Kid is taller (and play staller than his height too,) 3 years younger, a better mark too. He isnt the same type of player as Stokes either - Stokes is more of a crumber where Gamble appears more lead and kick player.
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