Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach (Part 2) - Full Support of the Board

Is Matthew Nicks the right coach for Adelaide?

  • Firmly yes (I love what I'm seeing)

  • Leaning yes

  • Can't decide either way

  • Leaning no (but don't sack him yet)

  • Firmly no (he should be sacked)


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have just come up against "good teams", just a few errors being the only difference, just needing to get the system right etc

Time was when the expectation was that we were a good team, better than most

That time was 4 weeks ago.

He’s singularly failed to prepare the team, counter the oppositions plans for our last seasons game plan, and have the players ready to perform

I.e. the core functions of his job
 
The longer we have Nicks as coach, the more I realise he is just another version of Hinkley. He is great at building relationships with the players, but no good at actually coaching or making the tough decisions when players need to be dropped.

Hard disagree.

Nicks dreams of a resume like Ken.

We can delude ourselves, we can lie about Carr being the coach, we can do what we like but none of it is true - Ken is a decent coach, a coach who has been sought by other teams
 
Really, Please Give it a rest.

When do you believe we will be a genuine premiership chance if Nicks stays till 2026?

We wont make the 8 under Nicks, so even getting that chance to play finals wont happen till the late 2020s, do you even math?

You are prone to the odd bit of hyperbole.
 

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Hard disagree.

Nicks dreams of a resume like Ken.

We can delude ourselves, we can lie about Carr being the coach, we can do what we like but none of it is true - Ken is a decent coach, a coach who has been sought by other teams
He’s AC cola to Kerns Coke Zero.
 
We can break tackles at training

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Be very interesting being the playing group right now, how much confidence would they have left in Nicks and the coaching group.

Last year they played attractive fun football, scored a lot and just missed finals. You’re then told over preseason you’re not good at defence, so we are going to change the gameplan. The new gameplan turns out a dud. They’ve killed the enjoyment, you’re too afraid to make a mistake, it’s a boring go slow game which has resulted in you can’t score and your winless.

You then hear from the coaches it’s your fault, you’re out of form, can’t execute and you’ve lost your “shape”. Experienced out of form players are persisted with, the youngsters are rotated and then you’ve got others that can’t get a game.

I believe the damage is done and he’s lost a majority of the playing group. Their belief and trust in him is gone, there ain’t coming back from it. When he talks it will become an irritant. The season isn’t getting any better and the worst possible thing this club could do would be to retain him for 2025. They need belief.

Absolutely nailed it, well said

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You are prone to the odd bit of hyperbole.
You are completely prone to not fully grasping where the Club actually sits in terms of winning a flag which is all that matters at the end of the day.

Its not happening till the 2030s, to be a genuine Premiership chance you need an elite midfield and need to bat deep in it.

We cannot trade any in elite midfield talent, so that means via the draft and thats going to take years to develop properly.
 
Think about that for a moment. 2030s......
We've been complaining about the exact same things since Craigy's days. Over-reliance on seniors, not giving the kids a go, stubborn arrogance, back the boys in. What's another decade between friends?
 
You are completely prone to not fully grasping where the Club actually sits in terms of winning a flag which is all that matters at the end of the day.

Its not happening till the 2030s, to be a genuine Premiership chance you need an elite midfield and need to bat deep in it.

We cannot trade any in elite midfield talent, so that means via the draft and thats going to take years to develop properly.

I don't agree, things can change quickly with a decent coach.

The right coach playing players to their strengths, things change very quickly and players can hit form and look like do different players overnight.

We've had a break out game from Soligo and we know the quality of Dawson, there's definitely something there for the next coach to build around in the middle and we have one of the best young forward lines in the comp.

What we desperately need is a decent coach to finish the list and build towards a flag.
 
I don't agree, things can change quickly with a decent coach.

The right coach playing players to their strengths, things change very quickly and players can hit form and look like do different players overnight.

We've had a break out game from Soligo and we know the quality of Dawson, there's definitely something there for the next coach to build around in the middle and we have one of the best young forward lines in the comp.

What we desperately need is a decent coach to finish the list and build towards a flag.
We also have a lot of players that can’t kick and senior players ready to depart. We are miles away when you compare us to other clubs in a similar position. There’s a few out there with young gun midfields which will carry them for the next 10 years. Now they can just concentrate on other areas
 
Hard disagree.

Nicks dreams of a resume like Ken.

We can delude ourselves, we can lie about Carr being the coach, we can do what we like but none of it is true - Ken is a decent coach, a coach who has been sought by other teams
Both are good at building a good culture and having the playing group love them, but both are terrible tactical coaches. Ports only good years are when they had a good tactician next to Ken in the coaches box. Once they left Ken went back to being clueless and Port dropped back down the ladder.

Ken is now the longest serving coach in AFL history to not make a grand final. His resume isn't anything to aspire to. In any other AFL team he would have been sacked years ago.

At the end of the day neither have won anything.
 
Both are good at building a good culture and having the playing group love them, but both are terrible tactical coaches. Ports only good years are when they had a good tactician next to Ken in the coaches box. Once they left Ken went back to being clueless and Port dropped back down the ladder.

Ken is now the longest serving coach in AFL history to not make a grand final. His resume isn't anything to aspire to. In any other AFL team he would have been sacked years ago.

At the end of the day neither have won anything.

Utter nonsense
 

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You are completely prone to not fully grasping where the Club actually sits in terms of winning a flag which is all that matters at the end of the day.

Its not happening till the 2030s, to be a genuine Premiership chance you need an elite midfield and need to bat deep in it.

We cannot trade any in elite midfield talent, so that means via the draft and thats going to take years to develop properly.

I actually think we have a good list of youngsters who aren't getting a go. There is the culture of undeserving respect towards the sanfl as a place young players can develop their game and only those staring in the sanfl and knocking down the door for selection should be selected at AFL. In a side that hasn't played finals in 6 years and already looks certain a 7th is on the cards, he has not selected a single player drafted in the last two drafts. So apparently Nicks clearly thinks he has solved the clubs problems with those drafted up until the 2021 draft and Max.
 
Lucky you didn’t get to 3.41 “not wholesale changes” “1 maybe 2” “we were really happy with what we done” “we’ve got players that can come in and play their role” well how about picking them dickhead. “We didn’t execute” well drop them!!

What about the players that played s**t and have been s**t all year?

Berry had ******* 7 touches last week, he’s a dud.
McHenry 10, he’s a dud. How long we going to stick with the miniature greyhound?
Jones another ordinary game.

Hamill has been average in all games played.

Yeah let’s keep the same midfield mix.

He is a ******* moron, I hate him. Carlton will flog us and then I hope we lose to North so this clown is further exposed.
How about watching the game. Berry had 7 touches in a quarter.
 
I don't agree, things can change quickly with a decent coach.

The right coach playing players to their strengths, things change very quickly and players can hit form and look like do different players overnight.

We've had a break out game from Soligo and we know the quality of Dawson, there's definitely something there for the next coach to build around in the middle and we have one of the best young forward lines in the comp.

What we desperately need is a decent coach to finish the list and build towards a flag.
While I dont disagree, do you really believe we can be a Premiership threat in the late 2020s if we keep Nicks till the end of his current contract and take time to develop elite mids and bat deep in this area? Thats another 4-5 years at least.
 
Why don't we offer the head coaching gig to Josh Carr? Annoy Port plus get a good coach. Win-win.
I wouldn't employ anyone that works under hinkley or has worked with him.

Very rarely an exception like phil walsh.
 
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Utter nonsense
Which part do you disagree with? Do you think Ken is a good tactician?

Why has Ken suddenly become this highly regarded coach on this board? I know Nicks has probably lowered our expectations on what a good coach is but that doesn't change the fact that Ken hasn't achieved anything significant in 10 years as a senior coach.
 
Both are good at building a good culture and having the playing group love them, but both are terrible tactical coaches. Ports only good years are when they had a good tactician next to Ken in the coaches box. Once they left Ken went back to being clueless and Port dropped back down the ladder.
What makes you think we have a good culture?
 
In a side that hasn't played finals in 6 years and already looks certain a 7th is on the cards, he has not selected a single player drafted in the last two drafts. So apparently Nicks clearly thinks he has solved the clubs problems with those drafted up until the 2021 draft and Max.
Fun fact: Adelaide and Melbourne had an identical number of players who were 22 or younger last week (5).

Which one of us was rebuilding again?
 
What makes you think we have a good culture?
We have stopped the exodus of players wanting to leave the club, the young players are happy to sign long term contracts to stay. They all seem to be enjoying their time at the club now. You can never really tell exactly what's happening inside club land but it seems to be miles better than what it was before Nicks arrived.

Obviously this year there may be cracks starting to appear due to our terrible start, but prior to this year he seemed to be doing well in that regard.
 
Would a new coach have to start a rebuild from scratch?

Or are we thinking Sando Spike?
Any prospective coach who suggested another rebuild would be turfed out the interview room quicker than Craig used to banish Walker to the SANFL.
 
Would a new coach have to start a rebuild from scratch?

Or are we thinking Sando Spike?
I think one more developing season actually playing players where they should be played, playing our elite talent, then spike in 2026 with a few trades / free agents.

Get games into Curtin, Welsh, Edwards, Dowling, Ryan, 2024 first rounder, Nankervis etc.
 
We have stopped the exodus of players wanting to leave the club, the young players are happy to sign long term contracts to stay. They all seem to be enjoying their time at the club now. You can never really tell exactly what's happening inside club land but it seems to be miles better than what it was before Nicks arrived.

Obviously this year there may be cracks starting to appear due to our terrible start, but prior to this year he seemed to be doing well in that regard.
Is that a sign of good culture?

That sounds more like a shit ton of spare salary cap and **** all expectation.
 
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