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[Flea_29]

Why on earth would one compare Dusty to Rocky. I don't normally have a problem with Kingy, but I do on this one. I think the fact that he likes the sound of his own voice means that sometimes he will talk shit.
You need to compare Rocky to Priddis and players like that, not Martin. Martin needs to be compared with players like Danger.
In the first half most of Rocky's possessions were handballs, trying to get the ball out of a congestion - hence the reason why his metres gained were low. Also, one needs to consider that with no Beams, Bundy and Zorko, there was little help, whereas, Martin, Priddis and others have a number of established stars around them.

 

[Milux]

All this Rockliff hate is disgusting. Rockliff and Martin are completely different players.

 

[JasRulz63]

While I don't completely disagree with what they're suggesting in the article, the comparison they've used is a poor one as mentioned above. While Hanley's having a poor year, using the meters gained stat can make it look like he's as good as Martin

Martin
Games in 2016: 13
Total goals: 6
Disposals: 28.5
Metres gained: 424.2
Metreage per disposal: 14.9
Inside 50s: 4.8

Hanley
Games in 2016: 14
Total goals: 10
Disposals: 22.3
Metres gained: 392.4
Metreage per disposal: 17.6
Inside 50s: 3.3

On the article, they could've included average score involvements where Rockliff (6.8) has more than Martin (6.4) despite a more dysfunctional team around him.

 

[bato]

COMPARE the pair.

At half-time of the match between Richmond and the Brisbane Lions at the MCG on Saturday, Dustin Martin and Tom Rockliff both had 16 disposals to their name.

But in terms of how much impact they had had and the territory they had gained for their respective sides, there was a significant differential.

Martin’s 16 disposals (six contested) returned 343m gained for the Tigers, while Rockliff’s 16 (eight contested) generated just 30m and — not a single inside 50.

“To average two metres gained per disposal is almost disgraceful for the captain,” Fox Footy’s David King said.



By game’s end, Martin would have 35 disposals, 10 inside 50s and a whopping 728m gained, while Rockliff had a respectable 30 disposals, but just two inside 50s and 131m gained.

Martin had gained 21m per disposal for Richmond. Rockliff just 4m.

Yes Rockliff isn’t blessed with the same explosion as Martin. But King believes there needs to be a “total overhaul of how (Rockliff) is playing the game”.

“Is he winning enough of his own ball? If it’s all contested footy that’s fine because you’re getting it to the outside but when you’re an outside player as well you have to have more damage than that,” King said.

Brisbane Lions' Tom Rockliff had 30 touches against Richmond. Picture: Colleen PetchSource: News Corp Australia
King’s rocket for Rockliff comes as the scrutiny on the Brisbane captain — and his side — begins to increase.

Since returning from injury in Round 11, Rockliff is averaging 37.5 disposals, including a career-high 48 against Carlton. But his impact on the game continues to be called into question.

Against the West Coast Eagles in Round 13, he racked up 38 disposals but gained just 296m for his side. Fairfax journalist Andrew Stafford in his match report claimed that Rockliff was “a superstar in fantasy leagues only”.

For the record, he’s currently ranked 16th in the competition for average AFL Fantasy points, but just 38th in SuperCoach — the fantasy game which takes efficiency and impact into account.



DUSTIN MARTIN

Games in 2016: 13

Total goals: 6

Disposals: 28.5

Metres gained: 424.2

Metreage per disposal: 14.9

Inside 50s: 4.8

TOM ROCKLIFF

Games in 2016: 9

Total goals: 5

Disposals: 27.6

Metres gained: 273.8

Metreage per disposal: 9.9

Inside 50s: 2

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dus...s/news-story/b23869c25a6aebd279f9faf2c5772337

Becoming a trend that players are only rated on metres gained. If the people wrote this had any idea of the situation Rocky was in on the weekend then this article might have never went up. 2 completely different players. Martin a High half forward wing player with massive agility against a very inside midfielder. 29 kicks to 10 gets you more metres with Rocky spending alot more time in close to Martin on the wing. Rocky beat him in clearances, tackles and contested work but that doesn't matter because metres gained is better. Not faulting Dusty at all, he got the 3 votes on the weekend it's just a kick in the guts while were down type of article.

Kicking long doesn't always work especially with a skinny forward line like our own.

Don't think I'd give Dusty the three votes just yet. His disposals weren't that damaging at all. Always has been the one-two ball hog type when playing in the middle.

 

[James North]

They compare Martin and Zorko in the lead up to the game, then compare Martin and Rockliff after it.

Ergo, Martin love-fest.

 

[Happy_Neale]

Not to mention Martins' direct opponent got knocked out early in the game and didn't return.

 

[mikey127]

How does Rockcliff go with chopsticks?

 

[CarterS]

Fox sports weekly 3 word summary of each teams performance: "play like crabs"

 

[brizrider]

The Suns and AFLQ have been given $300k for: relocating and installing part of the Gold Coast SUNS high performance centre to support AFL and cricket at Ipswich

Seems kind of strange. Do the Suns have a formal relationship with the Ipswich area?

http://www.npsr.qld.gov.au/assets/d...proved/round-2-getplaying-plus-recipients.pdf

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Cameron Mooney did write ups on teams who can play finals outside the top 8 next year. most teams got a good write up, we get this....

BRISBANE

Years away.

 

[Mavlions1961]

Cameron Mooney did write ups on teams who can play finals outside the top 8 next year. most teams got a good write up, we get this....

BRISBANE

Years away.

Well he is probably right


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[Big Sauce 21]

Well he is probably right


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No explanation no talk on where to improve, just Years Away.

 

[Len S]

No explanation no talk on where to improve, just Years Away.

The guy is not all that bright...predictable comment in his case.He and Riccutto could raffle the dimmest commentator award.

 

[CarloLion]

Cameron Mooney did write ups on teams who can play finals outside the top 8 next year. most teams got a good write up, we get this....

BRISBANE

Years away.

CAMERON MOONEY

Flog.

 

[dlanod]

CAMERON MOONEY

Flog.

100% more efficient!

 

[west coast 2k16]

Reciently I have had 2 ideas both about a camp out for the lions.
Weather these ideas are supported by the club or just initiated by the fans I don't know.
These ideas could also raise some money for the club. It wouldn't be much but something like a $50 donation would be a good idea. This could also pay for facilitys that would be required.

First
The night before the Qclash sleep out somewhere like the Brisbane Showgrounds or to start off at the lions park until the idea gets bigger. But the only problem is where are we going to store all of our gear like sleeping stuff while we are at the game.

Second
Probably not going to be that popular with to many people but I'll say anyway
Just simply camp outside the Gabba until the lions win as they are really struggling at the moment. It will just show our support for the players. And it will show those people from down south that we love out footy too.
I can't amagine to many people are going to like this idea but if we can get even twenty people that would be a good idea.
But remember we could be there until round 23

If you are interested in any of these ideas let me know.
If you are able to start a page on this it would be great aswell

 

[Big Sauce 21]

 

[SizeMatters]

I can't see how that could possibly be a good idea. People can probably afford to camp out one night but for the rest of the season? People have jobs, families, school and just general commitments that would never allow them to do this. Not to mention it would be illegal under about a dozen laws...

 

[adey115]

I always thought Bernie Gabba Vegas was a bit camp. That's as close as I can get agreeing to the concept provided here.

 

[M Malice]

I always thought Bernie Gabba Vegas was a bit camp. That's as close as I can get agreeing to the concept provided here.

not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[MacMum]

Reciently I have had 2 ideas both about a camp out for the lions.
Weather these ideas are supported by the club or just initiated by the fans I don't know.
These ideas could also raise some money for the club. It wouldn't be much but something like a $50 donation would be a good idea. This could also pay for facilitys that would be required.

First
The night before the Qclash sleep out somewhere like the Brisbane Showgrounds or to start off at the lions park until the idea gets bigger. But the only problem is where are we going to store all of our gear like sleeping stuff while we are at the game.

Second
Probably not going to be that popular with to many people but I'll say anyway
Just simply camp outside the Gabba until the lions win as they are really struggling at the moment. It will just show our support for the players. And it will show those people from down south that we love out footy too.
I can't amagine to many people are going to like this idea but if we can get even twenty people that would be a good idea.
But remember we could be there until round 23

If you are interested in any of these ideas let me know.
If you are able to start a page on this it would be great aswell

Thanks for at least giving our plight some thought.....in theory would be a great idea, but as others have said, probably won't work in reality.

I like ideas out of left field and perhaps we do have to think along those lines.....we just have to think of ways to show our support and draw attention at the same time. We'll get there eventually I hope.

cheers

 

[JasRulz63]

Leppa's on Footy Classified tonight.

 

[Milux]

Leppa's on Footy Classified tonight.

Anyway for us plebs in qld to watch?

 

[Hollow Knight]

Anyway for us plebs in qld to watch?

It's shown late on GEM I think.

 

[Milux]

It's shown late on GEM I think.

Noice.