Melb Cup Formtalk.....Mon 31 Oct 8pm

[mattys123]

If Moyenne can get a carry into the race from the 1000m, he'll be in the top 5 coming towards the line, needs some cover from the wide gate, if he gets it, good place chance.

 

[sethlad]

19. Saptapadi.......to win 1 million @ $101

Trainer continues to declare he's better than his stablemate but on his 2 runs here,its hard to have him

seth

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

MC - big run in the Ebor & down in the weights.
Just concerned as to where he will position within the race. Not the roughest but place at best.

 

[Cousin Jed]

Saptapadi - Will need to do a Bradbury to win this.

 

[Lockyer24]

Saptapadi - won't win.

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

Trainer continues to declare he's better than his stablemate but on his 2 runs here,its hard to have him

seth

Doesn't say much for the chances of MC.
Leave him out.

 

[dr nick]

19. Saptapadi.......to win 1 million @ $101

Trainer continues to declare he's better than his stablemate but on his 2 runs here,its hard to have him

seth

what?? 1 million?

Judging by the last 2 runs at Caulfield thats crazy talk. Maybe the short break could be an excuse but cannot see anywhere near contention.

 

[mattys123]

Saptapadi - won't win.

Looks to have struggled in big fields in oz, then runs into the biggest field it will ever face, NOPE.

Won't place.

 

[sethlad]

20. Shamrocker...2k @ $51

Keep hearing she's been set for this but who hasnt?
Not going well enough for me

seth

 

[dr nick]

yeah... Shamrocker.. nah

 

[mattys123]

Shamrocker had no chance, then it drew in the carpark, jockey should drop it out to last and let it run home for a top 10 cheque.

 

[Lockyer24]

Shamrocker - has had the luxury of being in the field since forever, so has allowed to have had a patient build up. However we have been waiting for a sign again and again and she hasn't showed us anything that she wants to race at the moment. Mare's don't just turn around form like a switch.
Have the feeling she will be put into the race at the top of the straight with bravado, look like a winner for 0.5 seconds then puncture badly.
Boss might have been her best asset.

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

Shamrocker - will be happy to be back at Flemington.
Can't have her as a betting proposition but do think she may run better than many believe.

Was pitiful in the Wakeful (I backed her) & then ran a game 2nd in the Oaks
4 days later at nice odds.

 

[sethlad]

21.The Verminator......to win 70k @ $151

Ill pass on the Metrop form

seth

 

[Lockyer24]

The Verminator - wants it dead as dead can be. Just a touch of hardness and he will give last a shake. But I think he has been harshly bagged in the lead up and will run a nice 13th.

 

[mattys123]

Newitt's post race comment about Verminator;

"Outclassed, when they sprinted, he stood still".

 

[dr nick]

Newitt's post race comment about Verminator;

"Outclassed, when they sprinted, he stood still".

yeah I heard that too, will not be touching.

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

Agreed re; The Metrop form - won't stand up here.
That was his GF.

 

[sethlad]

22. Tullamore......15k @ $26

Brave & consistent but lacks the killer punch for me,rough hope

seth

 

[mattys123]

Tullamore will stay all day, a must for your tris and first fours, can't win without a downpour though IMO.

 

[Cousin Jed]

Caufield Cup winner from last year. Going almost as well...

 

[Lockyer24]

Tullamore - will run a good race if he is still sound, but everything would have to go absolutely perfect to be in the finish.

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

Give Tullamore a Top 5 chance.
Will just keep wacking away, but just not have the sprint of those fighting out the finish.

 

[sethlad]

23. Niwot.....40k @$11

This is the same horse that won the Ramsden in winter right?
Sure he was impressive Sat but $11...please!!

seth

 

[dr nick]

I liked Niwot before the super impressive win in the Lexus - good 2 mile run in the Ramsden. Dissappointing it's been hammered in so hard and should have got on board before - $11 doesn't seem worth it