Melbourne Cup Day 2013 Discussion/ Tips etc

[sethlad]

It was a clear peak performance last start,unsure if it says more
about VDC or those chasing?
As with most of the internationals,her best is good enough but Im glad I'd given up on her arriving
& didnt bother trading out (until Wed)

seth

 

[sethlad]

Seville's Metrop win gets him past the ballot & a likely penalty puts him right up the order

seth

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

Was great to see Seth, glad to have a few live tickets in both cups. If they get the penalty and the guaranteed start, I imagine the Caulfield Cup will be a dead run though, ala Green Moon last year.

 

[sethlad]

Was great to see Seth, glad to have a few live tickets in both cups. If they get the penalty and the guaranteed start, I imagine the Caulfield Cup will be a dead run though, ala Green Moon last year.

Who would know what's next with Lloyd but rumour is Cox Plate.
Maybe last year's injury may turn out a blessing?
TVN reporting Lloyd saying Masked Marvel is "the best Ive got"

Godolphin have put only Royal Empire into quarantine after his 2nd last night @ Ascot
K Mcevoy booked

seth

 

[plays tall 1]

Royal Empire has gone into quarantine. No mention of Ahzeemah - presumably he's not coming.

Cirrus de Aigles thrashed his rivals in a group 2 overnight. He was beaten by Tres Blue previous start.

 

[sethlad]

Bensley reporting Nash has been dumped from Fiorente,for Olly

seth

 

[Whowants2know]

Bensley reporting Nash has been dumped from Fiorente,for Olly

seth

So Gai is firing her number 1 rider, arguably the best jockey in the country for another jockey who was as just come back after 10 months out of the saddle??

Maybe Singo is right, Gai is losing her mind.

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

Yep, Team Williams are hard to predict. Adrian Dunn reporting Cox Plate is on for Seville. Still 101 with bet365. Easy back and lay if it does indeed go that way, but who bloody knows!!

 

[The_Doctor]

So Gai is firing her number 1 rider, arguably the best jockey in the country for another jockey who was as just come back after 10 months out of the saddle??

Maybe Singo is right, Gai is losing her mind.

Isn't Tommy Berry her #1 guy when he is here now?

Good call either way imo, Olly is twice the rider Nash is

 

[sheahen]

some awesome value around atm...
Sea Moon @ $41s on the TAB
and PDL $11S ON Ladbrokes

 

[yaco55]

Posted on another forum back just before the More Joyous saga that Rawiller was on shaky ground as stable jockey for Waterhouse. Thought that James McDonald was being groomed as the replacement though that's probably not happening.

Interesting that Tommy Berry who starred during his 3 month stint in HK ( where I live ) knocked back a job to be the stable rider for John Moore in HK. This is a prestigious and financially rewarding job. I suspect that Berry will take over as stable rider, or Gai could do a Waller and not have a stable jockey.

Does Gai still go on with the Cox Plate which I doubt he can win, then onto the Melbourne Cup . From memory she pulled Fiorente out of the Caulfield Cup which he could win. I suppose Fiorente CAN win the Melbourne Cup.

 

[yaco55]

Still kicking myself for not getting on It's A Dundeel for the Cox Plate. Rate him as the best horse in Australia, and he usually flies at his 3rd or 4th run - Does fall off the cliff at his 5th run. So thought I would wait till after the Underwood Run his 2nd run back. gets up and wins and the $12 to $14 becomes $5.00. Ouch !

Think It's A Dundeel can be very competitive in next year's Arc if he isnt at stud.

 

[plays tall 1]

Treve smashed them in the Arc but Penglai Pavilion, who ran second to Tres Blue in Tres Blue's last run, ran 5th.

Like Tres Blue, Treve is a French 3yo foaled 7 April 2010. Tres Blue foaled 3 May 2010.

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

Still kicking myself for not getting on It's A Dundeel for the Cox Plate. Rate him as the best horse in Australia, and he usually flies at his 3rd or 4th run - Does fall off the cliff at his 5th run. So thought I would wait till after the Underwood Run his 2nd run back. gets up and wins and the $12 to $14 becomes $5.00. Ouch !

Think It's A Dundeel can be very competitive in next year's Arc if he isnt at stud.

May have saved your dough, chance to miss this weekend with a hoof abscess, which will hamper his cox plate prep

 

[WeninRome]

Just had my first bet on the cup. Mt Athos E/W at $18's on Ladbrokes and Masked Marvel E/W at $21 on the same bookmaker. Think both will be very hard to beat.

 

[toxic]

Anyone have any word on if Gai will move to Melb permanently?

Mt Athos for me, will continue to back whilst dble figure odds

 

[yaco55]

The move has been rumored all year. Think she is too much of a Sydney person but stranger things have happened. Had to laugh at the reason given for Rawiller's sacking from Fiorente - "It's better to have a Melbourne jockey - Poor Nash spent his 15 years riding in Melbourne.

 

[sethlad]

Updated OOE: Only lost a few internationals who were never coming
http://www.springracingcarnival.com...cup-1st-acceptors-elimination-order-oct-8.pdf

seth

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

Seville

 

[iluvparis]

Fiorente hammered on betfair in the last 48 hours - potentially getting a bit short - especially being with a trainer who for mine still has question markets over her ability to train a Cup Winner.

After watching the Metrop - I don't think that is the right formline (usually the case and I think so again this year). Only Lloyds out of there would be a chance of winning it given the improvment he can get out of his on the day.

 

[sethlad]

Had a doubt on Fiorente running a strong 2 miles last year & for me that doubt still exists.
It was a complete sit & sprint in 2012,he has more weight & Gais had time to **** him up.
Has got to siilly odds a month out.

seth

 

[iluvparis]

Also going to wheel out my 'if you don't win it the first time you don't win it all' line to add another nail to his coffin.

 

[redrose1]

Hello fellas!

Interested in a Melbourne Cup sweepstakes? Me and my mates sorted one out here http://try.gntmedia.co.uk/win-with-the-melbourne-cup/ just put your email in and it will do the work for you its quality. Plus you could win a case of sparkling wine to get in your missus's good books.

Good luck chaps
Alex

 

[WeninRome]

Anyone have any word on if Gai will move to Melb permanently?

Mt Athos for me, will continue to back whilst dble figure odds

Have heard that she won't move, but will have a much bigger presence down here next year. With the likes of Fiorente and Tres Blue in her stable she doesn't really have much of a say. Damien Oliver on board Fiorente now also kills off another Sydney connection in Nash.

 

[iluvparis]

Hello fellas!

Interested in a Melbourne Cup sweepstakes? Me and my mates sorted one out here http://try.gntmedia.co.uk/win-with-the-melbourne-cup/ just put your email in and it will do the work for you its quality. Plus you could win a case of sparkling wine to get in your missus's good books.

Good luck chaps
Alex

Nice first post