Melbourne should also get an extra PSD pick

[SirJimi05]

People are smart enough to stay off the tram tracks.

As for the OP, Polak's injury was miles more severe than Robertson's, however this begs the question, should any player be able to be rookied as a result of a non-football related injury, ie Muston in a car crash?
Ramanaskus could not prevent his cancer.
Lonergan could not prevent losing a kidney.
Polak could, and should, have been able to avoid a tram, as you said it was unfortunate, but that's where it lies, it was preventable and it's a loss for Richmond, but they shouldn't be allowed to rookie him.

Muston was not an AFL listed player when he was hit by a car so it is not relevent.

Lonergan's was a football related injury.

Polak's was a terrible accident, i repeat, accident. All of us take educated risks every day of our lives, he was just one of the unlucky people.

why is it that polak is being portrayed as innocent? he was out with friends when he was hit. there was no investigation or anything. it is very possible he was under the influence. Most likely he was being an idiot. How you dont see a tram, even at night, there is lighting on them for a reason.

He is innocent you fool! Regardless of whether he was drinking or not. You are the same person who was sprouting rubbish the very morning he had his accident,

saying he must have been pissed and we better hear the full story etc. I guess you have ever jay walked or crossed tram lines without using the crossing? Would

you consider yourself 'guilty' if you were crossing a road and got put in a wheelchair because you failed to look in both directions?

 

[jarmanagic]

So why doesn't Geelong say M Egan's potentially career threatening foot injury results from on road running, nothing to do with games and ask to rookie him?

Bad luck is bad luck

 

[Jolldo87]

So why doesn't Geelong say M Egan's potentially career threatening foot injury results from on road running, nothing to do with games and ask to rookie him?

Bad luck is bad luck

Obviously not considering Ramanaskus was allowed to be put on the rookie list.

 

[jarmanagic]

Obviously not considering Ramanaskus was allowed to be put on the rookie list.

The problem with that decision was that whilst it seemed ok it opened a can of worms. Much like Bauer's commonsense non DQ from this years Melbourne Cup will lead to legal cases (Rodean and others) along the same lines

 

[Beats]

Muston was not an AFL listed player when he was hit by a car so it is not relevent.

Lonergan's was a football related injury.

Polak's was a terrible accident, i repeat, accident. All of us take educated risks every day of our lives, he was just one of the unlucky people.

So what is the difference between a football related injury and this? Let's just assume that Polak's was an 'accident' and he is not in any way at fault, why should he get different treatment for a similarly dangerous injury?

 

[Crow-mo]

Melbourne currently have a long term injured player in Russell Robertson. He's not expected back anytime soon due to a horrific archillies injury he copped in round 10 last year. He's training work load is as minimal as Graham Polak's. Like Polak, nobody knows if and when Robbo will play again, source - MFC

Now seeing that Richmond are applying to put Polak on the long term injury list, and thereby selecting Cousins and another player in the Pre Season draft, wouldn't it be consistent to allow Melbourne that extra draft pick so Robbo can go on the long term injury list?

1. No
2. No
3. See point 1
4. see point 2

 

[jacko57]

And surely the onus was on Polak to use the pedestrian traffic lights that night, rather than jade walk accross the tram tracks.

Maybe the AFL will consider that in their decision.

Is that when you cross the road, pretending to be Jade Rawlings?

 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

why is it that polak is being portrayed as innocent? he was out with friends when he was hit. there was no investigation or anything. it is very possible he was under the influence. Most likely he was being an idiot. How you dont see a tram, even at night, there is lighting on them for a reason.

It is more likely that you are being an idiot!
Do not assume that you know he was under the influence. It has been stated that he had not been drinking. I have friends at the Alfred that can confirm this. The newer trams are very quiet. With his attention diverted to catching the taxi that had stopped on the other side of the road, he just did not see or hear the on coming tram to his side as he crossed the road. It was a freak accident. All accidents have some sort of blame that can be put upon the injured individual.

Let's put it this way. If given a choice of injuries, which would you like least?
1. A life threatening head injury that renders you unable to be the same person again for a very long time (maybe forever).
2. A torn achilles.
3. Lose a kidney (when you know people can survive normally with one; heck people even donate them to others!)
4. A foot injury that may stop you playing football indefinitely.

I think the answer is so obvious that it's not funny. So why are people argueing about this. Can't people see how different the Polak situation is or they just stupid?

 

[rocklovelive]

Is that when you cross the road, pretending to be Jade Rawlings?

Ew. Surely no one would do that.

 

[demonfire]

polak and rama cannot be compared.
yes, polak getting hit by a tram was devastating and perhaps bad luck but it was ultimately his actions that put him in this situation.

rama had no control over getting cancer.

i think richmond should be allowed to rookie him but only get the benefit of an extra rookie pick and then they can upgrade their first selection in the rookie draft. with any other situation, clubs are losing out (even though it is only 1 pick) and i don't think other clubs should feel the effects.

 

[BEEG]

Rama had cancer, Polak has brain damage, both had nothing to to with football realted injuries. Robo injured himself on the football field just like any other normal injury.

If he is gonna be out for so long Melbourne should place him on the long term injury list and promote a rookie.

This thread seriously made me Rofl. I thank you for that.

Why should it be any different they all have injuries

The Legal system doesnt work in those ways so why should AFL Roberston did his injury in football if anything he should have more right to go on a Rookie list people say that will affect Rama and Polacks lifes yes it will massive impact

But Robertson might never play again and that can have a huge mental and physical strain on somebody Melb might need to pull the pin on him because they need that spot on there list

They are all the same in there different ways and if your going to make exception for one you will need to make it for all

 

[Ancient Tiger]

Why should it be any different they all have injuries

The Legal system doesnt work in those ways so why should AFL Roberston did his injury in football if anything he should have more right to go on a Rookie list people say that will affect Rama and Polacks lifes yes it will massive impact

But Robertson might never play again and that can have a huge mental and physical strain on somebody Melb might need to pull the pin on him because they need that spot on there list

They are all the same in there different ways and if your going to make exception for one you will need to make it for all

The difference here is immense. Robbo can just about do anything he wants to do (except maybe play football or another high imapct sport), because he is otherwise normal. Polak will be lucky to hold down any job in his current state.

 

[SirJimi05]

Why should it be any different they all have injuries

The Legal system doesnt work in those ways so why should AFL Roberston did his injury in football if anything he should have more right to go on a Rookie list people say that will affect Rama and Polacks lifes yes it will massive impact

But Robertson might never play again and that can have a huge mental and physical strain on somebody Melb might need to pull the pin on him because they need that spot on there list

They are all the same in there different ways and if your going to make exception for one you will need to make it for all

Eeer no, they are completely different. One guy is recovering from brain damage whilst the other guy is expected to be back in the senior team by round 1. One guy was fighting for his life in an induced coma whilst the other guy was lying in his bed at home, with his foot up watching tv. What a moronic comparison.

 

[Bollox]

All the clubs now have one up their sleeve if they let the Tiges do this.

Just a matter of when u want to use it.

 

[SirJimi05]

All the clubs now have one up their sleeve if they let the Tiges do this.

Just a matter of when u want to use it.

Let's just hope that a club never has to.

I would hate to see another player put in an induced coma and suffer brain damage.

 

[Chillidog]

You know what....if they want to, they should apply to the AFL and let them decide if they can or not...that is their job...or is it like a cricketer refusing to walk if they know they are out...ask the question and let the afl earn their money.

 

[GordonBlue]

Who cares how the injury happened...at the end of the day the reason why Richmond want to put him on the Rookie list is because they think they'll be a man down for the year....same with Melbourne....same will Geelong

They should all be allowed to do this...

What i don't understand is, how would Richmond be disadvantaged if one of their rookie listed players gets elevated?

 

[yaco55]

Yeah I was being serious

I know Robbo's injury shouldn't allow the MFC another pick, but nor should it warrant an extra pick for Richmond where one of their players chose to ignore the pedestrian traffic lights and cross the road ILLEGALLY!

MFC should concentrate on getting their own house in order.

The club lacks leadership from the top to the bottom.

Any club that selects Brock Mclean to be part of a leadership group when he is

- banned from taking his car to the training ground at Trinity College because he was doing burn outs
- was involved in not one but two fights in different countries in his travels throughout Europe in 2007

seriously is lacking leadership at all levels.

How could a junior player be impressed with watching a member of the leadership group performing burn outs in a car Park.

Enough said !

 

[frantelle]

i think there is some weighting depending upon the severity of the injury
eg cancer tumor coma permanent brain damage
as opposed to a torn achilles

well thats what i would look for if i was big vlad

 

[DBAH0]

So why doesn't Geelong say M Egan's potentially career threatening foot injury results from on road running, nothing to do with games and ask to rookie him?

Bad luck is bad luck

Bingo.

Pot.Kettle.Black

Although I wouldn't expect anything less from BBP.

 

[Demonheart]

MFC should concentrate on getting their own house in order.

The club lacks leadership from the top to the bottom.

Any club that selects Brock Mclean to be part of a leadership group when he is

- banned from taking his car to the training ground at Trinity College because he was doing burn outs
- was involved in not one but two fights in different countries in his travels throughout Europe in 2007

seriously is lacking leadership at all levels.

How could a junior player be impressed with watching a member of the leadership group performing burn outs in a car Park.

Enough said !

So, Melbourne is lacking leadership at all levels because of a burn out and hanging around with Nathan Carroll, is that seriously all you've got?

"Enough said", at least you got that bit right, this one post is enough evidence to slot you into the 'moronic' category of bigfooty, nice work

 

[Demonheart]

i think there is some weighting depending upon the severity of the injury
eg cancer tumor coma permanent brain damage
as opposed to a torn achilles

well thats what i would look for if i was big vlad

So, who gets to decide what is acceptable and what isn't? Is having skin cancer acceptable, how about Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? Hell I've heard a couple of Collingwood players has Irritable Bowel Syndrome, definitely add that one to the list.

Interestingly after Troy Broadbridge passed away Sheedy was the only one who challenged Melbourne's request to add another player to the list, seems he's changed his mind on the issue.

 

[tigers71]

I reckon the AFL should give Melbourne an extra PSD pick and at the end of the day the MFC will still finish 16th in 2009, so yea by all means get the extra pick

 

[jacko57]

Interestingly after Troy Broadbridge passed away Sheedy was the only one who challenged Melbourne's request to add another player to the list, seems he's changed his mind on the issue.

He's always been a self-serving hypocrite.

 

[Demonheart]

I reckon the AFL should give Melbourne an extra PSD pick and at the end of the day the MFC will still finish 16th in 2009, so yea by all means get the extra pick

Of course you'd know about finishing last barracking for the tiggers

Thanks for your contribution