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Re: Eddie on 3AW re clash jumpers - time for some facts

I think clashes do exist in tha AFL - not sure though that collingwood has a clash - maybe with St Kilda - that's about it.

A large number of people just want to see Collingwood forced to wear a different jumper - "to stick it up em"

Surely there is a way for Collingwood to have an alternative strip that is still black and white stripes. The suggestion made of thinning out either the black or the white strips makes perfect sense - win win.

My club has a clash against a number of clubs - the game against richmond a fortnight ago was very difficult to pick the different teams at the ground - especially on the other side of the oval.

Melbourne and freo clash terribly.

The over-riding thing is that this league is run by the AFL. If Collingwood are forced to wear an alternate jumper they just need to lump it - just like my club and Brisbane were forced to play home finals in Melbourne - you just grin and bear it.

You can wangle out the tradition argument - but that is a hyporcrisy - almost all clubs have given up the most sacred of all traditions - the home ground. The biggest advantage any club had to winning 4 pts was playing on their own dung heap (Windy Hill and Moorabbin were classic losing spots for my mob). However almost all clubs gave up that "sacred tradition" for more revenue from the MCG and Dome and for the good of the game. No different with the jumpers in my eyes
 
Re: Eddie on 3AW re clash jumpers - time for some facts

Weren't collingwood the ones who made the umpires change from white?
 

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Re: Collingwood's Away Jumper!!

Smoky said:
Earth to numchuks... you barrack for Port POWER.

You're talking about the Port Adelaide Magpies in the SANFL??? They still do wear the stripes your talking about... but they dont play in this league - because they're a different team!
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Look again. numchuks, for better of worse, is one of ours - and he was pointing out that North wore vertical stripes during the many years we existed before Collingwood was... I think spawned is the word I'm after.
 
Re: Collingwood's Away Jumper!!

InCase said:
The problem isn't when you wear black shorts. It's when you are AWAY (in the home and away season). The shorts make you look majority white, which clash with Geelongs and Norths majority light home strips.
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Why do the shorts have to represent who is home and who is away??

Why can't North and the Pies agree on who wears light and dark all of the time and both keep stripes? Why can't we use common sense with the Cats as well? For these two I suggest we're dark, and against Carlton we should be mostly white.

Too fuggen easy, but as usual dumb shit, like "home shorts rules", impedes an all too easy solution!
 
Re: Collingwood's Away Jumper!!

InCase said:
The problem isn't when you wear black shorts. It's when you are AWAY (in the home and away season). The shorts make you look majority white, which clash with Geelongs and Norths majority light home strips. :rolleyes:
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Umm thats why the home and away shorts rule should be thrown out

The whole point is having light and dark strips, so Geelong should be wearing white with their normal jumper when there is a clash or blue with their blue clash strip (If they still have it) Whilst Collingwood wears black with their home jumper or white with their away jumper

The stupidity of a team with a mostly white jumper wearing dark shorts and a team with a mostly dark jumper wearing white shorts is what causes these stupid clashes

Essendon for example should never wear white shorts against Collingwood, they dont have white in their jumper so why wear them?
 
Clash Jumper Solutions

A thread for posting solutions to clashes for teams who'd prefer to wear their traditional jumper(e.g. north wearing white shorts and collingwood wearing black). This thread could also be used to discuss teams that obviously don't clash but are made to wear clash jumpers anyway.



personally i dont think essendon should wear a clash jumper against richmond but if the afl really thinks its a problem we should just wear red shorts.
 
Re: Collingwood's Away Jumper!!

If you read most of my posts on the subject you will see that I do agree that the rule regarding white shorts away is a stupid one. I would love to see it thrown out, common sense prevailing and we have one team wear light one wear dark. But the problem is, it does not look like the idiots at the AFL see this simple solution and want to keep the white shorts away rule.

As the rules stand now, there is a problem with Collingwoods guernseys, we can argue all we like that the white short rule should be thrown out, but the simple fact is, it is a rule with no talk by the AFL of changing it.

So for now, when Collingwood are away wearing white shorts to Geelong and North they need to accommodate to the home team and find a new guernsey to wear, one that is even darker.

Thinner stripes or black stripes on black with a white outline down each side of the stripes would do, but Collingwood don't want to comply when they should (at least until the ridiculous white shorts rule is changed.)
 
Re: Eddie on 3AW re clash jumpers - time for some facts

Hard Yakka said:
From Collingwood's perspective, the answer is simple. As one of their fixturing requests, they should ask not to play North Melbourne as an away match from 2009 and beyond - home match only. This could be replaced with another interstate game - how could anybody argue with that?:thumbsu:
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I totally agree.... Rather see Collingwood play interstate... :thumbsu:
 

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Re: Eddie on 3AW re clash jumpers - time for some facts

Found this on the web -

http://www.bomberblitz.com/~rmered/clubs.htm

I don't know how accurate it is but indicates when Norf joined the VFL in 1925 it went with a blue jersey with a white V.

The away jumper for Collingwood seen in this thread was used in 7 games between 2002 and 2004 -

Collingwood-Away-2002.gif


The jersey worn in 1982 (Escort Cup V Swans Districts) is this one -

Collingwood-PS-1982.gif


Either way, both clubs have a history of different jerseys. The AFL has accepted similar home jerseys for both clubs therefore both clubs need an away jersey when they play. The home team should wear it's home jersey.
 
Re: Eddie on 3AW re clash jumpers - time for some facts

RizzoTheRat said:
I don't know how accurate it is but indicates when Norf joined the VFL in 1925 it went with a blue jersey with a white V.
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Before the VFL North were in the VFA, when joining the VFL North were made to change their guernsey.
 
Re: Eddie on 3AW re clash jumpers - time for some facts

InCase said:
Before the VFL North were in the VFA, when joining the VFL North were made to change their guernsey.
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This is correct.

The stripes have always been our traditional and original jumper, and it is downright offensive for Eddie to claim otherwise.
 
Re: Clash Jumper Solutions

Zeke said:
Or concede that there are no clashes and get back to business as usual.
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There are some clashes that are easily sorted with the application of good well designed clash guernseys. The Freo, Bulldogs and Carlton guernseys are good. Saints is Ok, Adelaide and Melbourne both not that flash while Brisbane's white guernsey is atrocious. The Hawks one with the dark back creates clashes.

The North/Pies clashs is overstated in my opinion. If Pies wear normal guernsey (white stripe on black) against North (blue stripe on white) then I really can't see a problem.
 
Re: Eddie on 3AW re clash jumpers - time for some facts

InCase said:
Before the VFL North were in the VFA, when joining the VFL North were made to change their guernsey.
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Right. Didn't make the first cut for a bunch of reason, listed here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Melbourne_Football_Club
as:

* North had not won a premiership yet, and thus was not considered a powerful club
* The industrialisation of the locality had drained the club’s income streams
* The club had a strong reputation for hooliganism from their fans
* There was a lot of bad blood between Collingwood and North following a torrid engagement in the previous season
* Essendon felt threatened by the close proximity of North Melbourne
* A court case against the North Melbourne Cricket Club had damaged the Football Club’s status

Also got knocked back in 1907 and kicked out of the VFA for their treachery!
 
Re: Clash Jumper Solutions

The AFL need to get fair dinkum and actually tell everyone whats going on with the jumpers. I'am sick of hearing about it, espcailly when I dont think there are any real jumper clashes.
 
Re: Eddie on 3AW re clash jumpers - time for some facts

numchuks said:
This is correct.

The stripes have always been our traditional and original jumper, and it is downright offensive for Eddie to claim otherwise.
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Geez and people wonder why Eddie doesnt want Port wearing the Prison bars, wont be long and they will doing a North and trying to make us change our jumper because it clashes with their newer jumper they brought in despite it clashing with us
 
Re: Clash Jumper Solutions

DrJon said:
There are some clashes that are easily sorted with the application of good well designed clash guernseys. The Freo, Bulldogs and Carlton guernseys are good. Saints is Ok, Adelaide and Melbourne both not that flash while Brisbane's white guernsey is atrocious. The Hawks one with the dark back creates clashes.
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i dont see why hawthorn and bulldogs need a clash jumper if no one else has yellow or royal blue home jumpers
 
Re: Eddie on 3AW re clash jumpers - time for some facts

InCase said:
Before the VFL North were in the VFA, when joining the VFL North were made to change their guernsey.
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When Collingwood joined the VFA, they were also made to change from red white and blue to black and white.
 

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