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It was a joke. I knew who you meant, although I thought it was Leppitsch.
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What's your thinking?
You need to reduce the size of the green by about half.
It's not just the percentage chance of any specific shot, it's increasing the routine and the confidence in kicking a drop punt.
And demanding the ball in front instead of on 60 degree plus angles
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I just hope someone from the club is reading these posts so that all of the opinions and detailed analysis doesn't go to waste 
The pre-season reports were underwhelming.
Fair point. In hindsight the signs were there. I watched videos of 3-4 training sessions and saw one live. Lots of bombing the ball, skill level pretty low, bad goal kicking, low use of the corridor. So pretty much what we are seeing in game.
I attended 3-4 Lions sessions and they were way more impressive.
I think we might have been in denial over preseason as we look for anything to get excited about and are quick to make excuses (skills are scrappy but it's preseason ect).
Absolutely he does.
I've been thinking this since last year. The forward coach needs to sit down with him and agree on a plan together so he has some input and is comfortable with the zones. After that the decision is out of his hands and he has to follow it without any deviation. I would much rather see him miss with a drop punt outside the yellow area than see him hit the belly of the ball again trying an impossible snap from too far out.
That was 5 years ago. 5 years ago we had players from the previous 5 years beat Richmond in a elimination final. Sounds irrelevant doesn't it? So does the Collingwood final 5 years ago.
Also low energy from some reports.
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Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t know I had to be all rainbows & sunshine because it’s a “welcome to”
U might want to check out the other part of the heading
Does the Voss gloss still dazzle?
I just don’t understand how I & so many football pundits have got the second half so wrong. Nothing changed in how we played, it’s all just kicking straight
We really are very similiar to a golfer with the putting yips. They are professionally trained and coached to perform the skill to a high level, and they generally can. But when it goes, it can really go.
The misses by Harry, Motlop, Cripps and Walsh in the first half were akin to a golfer missing 2 foot putts. Each miss manifests the problem and it just carries on. They couldn't even kick the right side of the ball, it was that bad.
The second half we went from thinking "please don't 3 putt" to actually gritting our teeth and thinking "hole the bloody thing". It wasn't perfect but it was significantly better, including clutch kicks from Owies and Charlie to put us in front.
The second half we kicked 7.7. If we had gone at 50% in the first half (1.4 plus the 4 that missed completely) we would have won the game. Sometimes it is that simple.
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Currently we have Voss + 9 assistant/development coaches...
Which raises some interesting questions
Which raises some interesting questions
- Are there to many peas in the pod and is the message getting lost in translation?
- Are the players being over coached and becoming confused?
- Are we over resourcing the wrong areas?
- Would we be better getting less in number but higher quality coaches?
Still too lax imo, what you describe is kinda what he's doing already.
I'd have that zone where snapping is ok smaller, probably 2/3s of both angle and distance to what it is in the image. Bloke is still snapping when even marginally to the right of goal but still basically no angle to speak of, those ones have to be a drop punt every time. Likewise no more snaps from 35+ whatever the angle please, 30 absolute max.
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I think the end to last year and missing finals by % after being in the 8 every round has done a number on them mentally. Struggling to see another reason why literally every player on the list bar 2 or 3 has gone backwards.
I guess if playing in a grandfinal does not mean Collingwood's list is better than a team of 10 year non finalists(Carlton) - you might be right
I can't remember watching a game where 3 different players failed to kick the ball on the correct side, it was absolutely bizarre.
We should implement the slower game plan to halt momentum swings to actually stop them if they are occurring; not be pre-emptively doing as our default from the first bounce.
I just hope someone from the club is reading these posts so that all of the opinions and detailed analysis doesn't go to waste
Implement everything we say, no matter how contradictory it is.
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psychiatrists, kicking coaches, coach coaches, change training, change game-plan, new forward coach with new plan, forwards to not take the ball unless it is directly in front, get cripps a heart, teach the basics, go back to the beginning, use advanced methods for everything, de-list 17 players, get people from other clubs, get rid of the board, get rid of mathieson, get rid of pokies, get rid of respect, get speed, move the ball quicker, better decision making, make finals, don't say ok if don't make finals, don't let cerra talk, don't talk about finals, look what the media are saying, don't listen to the media, we're too reactive to the media, we don't care about the media, voss should hose that down, train the way you play, play the same way to get a different result, einstein footy icon, misattribution to get a different result, use durdan in the middle, put weits up forward, walsh is finished, cripps running flat for a new coach, the woman who said no to lyon, the man who said peanuts, what happened to old carlton, drafting disasters, who to blame, blame is good, no more nourishment, footy.......I just hope someone from the club is reading these posts so that all of the opinions and detailed analysis doesn't go to waste
Cookie says thanks!psychiatrists, kicking coaches, coach coaches, change training, change game-plan, new forward coach with new plan, forwards to not take the ball unless it is directly in front, get cripps a heart, teach the basics, go back to the beginning, use advanced methods for everything, de-list 17 players, get people from other clubs, get rid of the board, get rid of mathieson, get rid of pokies, get rid of respect, get speed, move the ball quicker, better decision making, make finals, don't say ok if don't make finals, don't let cerra talk, don't talk about finals, look what the media are saying, don't listen to the media, we're too reactive to the media, we don't care about the media, voss should hose that down, train the way you play, play the same way to get a different result, einstein footy icon, misattribution to get a different result, use durdan in the middle, put weits up forward, walsh is finished, cripps running flat for a new coach, the woman who said no to lyon, the man who said peanuts, what happened to old carlton, drafting disasters, who to blame, blame is good, no more nourishment, footy.......
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Yellow smiley face with love hearts for eyes.psychiatrists, kicking coaches, coach coaches, change training, change game-plan, new forward coach with new plan, forwards to not take the ball unless it is directly in front, get cripps a heart, teach the basics, go back to the beginning, use advanced methods for everything, de-list 17 players, get people from other clubs, get rid of the board, get rid of mathieson, get rid of pokies, get rid of respect, get speed, move the ball quicker, better decision making, make finals, don't say ok if don't make finals, don't let cerra talk, don't talk about finals, look what the media are saying, don't listen to the media, we're too reactive to the media, we don't care about the media, voss should hose that down, train the way you play, play the same way to get a different result, einstein footy icon, misattribution to get a different result, use durdan in the middle, put weits up forward, walsh is finished, cripps running flat for a new coach, the woman who said no to lyon, the man who said peanuts, what happened to old carlton, drafting disasters, who to blame, blame is good, no more nourishment, footy.......
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I was at the bears game and believe me Arrow to my eyes it certainly was a ****** debacle.
People enjoy an adjective to describe, what they believe is unseen
Lions seem like a strong side this year, so I don't see the lose as a debacle
Our style, execution, etc? Well, ineffective would likely suffice
One loss becomes 2 becomes 3 becomes 4.....and before you know it, Carlton misses finals for a decade
