AFLW 2024 - Round 6 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
from my memory, when waite played down back he too was fantastic! its like we lose bigger picture and get greedy or have no depth, hendo would of been AA down back, but a static forward is so vulnarable these days that game has past. im just frustrated today
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So in your version of history Jeffy wasn't our leading goal kicker in Mick's first year as coach?
FYI Eddie decided at the start of 2013 he was gone. He and his manager refused to meet with the club for contract discussions & ignored MICK's phone calls.
Hendo is injured.
thats history nowInjuries didn't cause a drop off in 2012
Our injuries were no worse than Collingwood's were that season (they finished 4th) or Hawthorn's have been this season (they are 3rd) or Geelong's last season (finished 2nd). We've had just as similar run with injuries the last couple of seasons as we had in 2012. There were nothing unusual about our injuries in 2012. Injuries are a part of football.
The only reason a few injuries effected us so badly was because we were too reliant on too few and when some of those few went down without anyone to take up the slack we wen't to shit with no one to fill the holes left.
Teams with good lists can lose good players and they bring in a good kid to fill in for a few weeks or another member of the 22 steps up. We didn't have that in 2012 because our list was too damn thin! We didn't have good kids running around in the reserves. We had 1 decent key forward and 1 or two decent key backs and no one to step up if they went down.
In 2012 we couldn't afford to lose Waite, Henderson, Carrazzo or Jamison like the cats could Hawkins or the Hawks could lose Franklin and Roughead. We couldn't afford to lose Carrazzo, Judd or Murphy because the players after them were no good. Hawks can still win without Hodge, Mitchell and Rioli just fine. Cats lose Ablett and win the flag next year. Our list overachieved and had a good run in 2011 when the bottom 4 of the top 8 was really poor quality and we had a good run with injury and people god over excited about it.
I just hate the injury excuse for 2012, we would have done ok had we had 0 injuries but it's unrealistic. Good teams can cope with a few injuries. Our list wasn't good enough to.
First three games hype
We beat Richmond (finished 12th), Brisbane (finished 13th) and Collingwood (finished 4th and started 2012 poorly) in the first three rounds and people thought we were going to be up there
Other
- Eddie wanted to leave and he left to be near his family and earn big dollars. Sam Jacobs was the best of 4 ruckmen we had once, Ratten let him go, probably could have kept him if we gave him the number one ruck role and a few extra dollars. Ratten Let Grigg go for Collins, Grigg would easily be getting a game with us. If players don't want to stay let them go! The club is bigger than any one player!
- Jamison, Simpson, Mclean, Armfield, Waite, Carrazzo, Kreuzer, Henderson, Garlett, Thomas and Tuohy were at their peak a few years ago, many of them are too old and can't run like they used to or are carring injury, if you want to blame a few injuries for not performing you can do it with this years group too. As for Garlett, you can ask him why he dropps his head going for marks and refuses to chase. Not Micks fault we have guys with poor attitudes who can't hack a challenge.
- How do you know Waite, Tuohy and Garlett aren't injured? Waite is injured at the moment and Tuohy has lost a lot of his pace which is obvious and a fitness thing. You can ask Waite and Garlett why they wont chase or do the team things. I haven't got time for poor attitudes and neither does the coach. Their the ones who can't get a kick, nothing to do with the coach.
- Judd played most of last year and hardly played this year. A lot of our past success comes from Judd and we are half the team without him up and firing.
- Ratten and Hughes ran the list into the ground to where it is now. Who do you recon missed opportunities to trade Bower, Thornton, Russell etc but kept them until he finally figured out they weren't much good? Ratten's job was to cut the list and decide who to trade, he hardly traded anyone in the end and kept anyone who could half play, we didn't have hardly any decent trades where we won under Ratten. Ratten threw away pick 11 to get Mclean. We could have had Talia and Fyfe instead of Lucas and Mclean! Ratten kept signing Joseph up who wasn't good enough. Let Grigg/Jacobs go for nothing, that's the same or worse than the Laidler thing people keep banging on about. Hughes who was an ordinary recruiter who had a patch between 2009-2012 we he hardly drafted anyone, it's killing out list now. The amount of 1st round picks he wasted as well! Malthouse has brought in guys like Docherty and Everitt for stuff all and traded out players who couldn't play.
- Our team is losing because our players aren't very good. Our players aren't very good because Hughes was a very poor recruiter and Ratten was a very ordinary judge of talent and projecting how good a young player would become and hung on to average players for too long and wasn't able to figure out who to trade.
Quoting this post because liking it isn't enough.
yes it does as if he wasnt injured he is kidding himself. But if he is injured then fair play
[First three games hype
We beat Richmond (finished 12th), Brisbane (finished 13th) and Collingwood (finished 4th and started 2012 poorly) in the first three rounds and people thought we were going to be up there
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doesnt matter what it means. Go blues.Not sure what that means.
So playing devils advocate, did I imagine Mick yelling at lingy?
Not all was "spotty dog"
He needs to learn control
Bloody over paid old codger
Injuries didn't cause a drop off in 2012
Our injuries were no worse than Collingwood's were that season (they finished 4th) or Hawthorn's have been this season (they are 3rd) or Geelong's last season (finished 2nd). We've had just as similar run with injuries the last couple of seasons as we had in 2012. There were nothing unusual about our injuries in 2012. Injuries are a part of football.
The only reason a few injuries effected us so badly was because we were too reliant on too few and when some of those few went down without anyone to take up the slack we wen't to shit with no one to fill the holes left.
Teams with good lists can lose good players and they bring in a good kid to fill in for a few weeks or another member of the 22 steps up. We didn't have that in 2012 because our list was too damn thin! We didn't have good kids running around in the reserves. We had 1 decent key forward and 1 or two decent key backs and no one to step up if they went down.
In 2012 we couldn't afford to lose Waite, Henderson, Carrazzo or Jamison like the cats could Hawkins or the Hawks could lose Franklin and Roughead. We couldn't afford to lose Carrazzo, Judd or Murphy because the players after them were no good. Hawks can still win without Hodge, Mitchell and Rioli just fine. Cats lose Ablett and win the flag next year. Our list overachieved and had a good run in 2011 when the bottom 4 of the top 8 was really poor quality and we had a good run with injury and people god over excited about it.
I just hate the injury excuse for 2012, we would have done ok had we had 0 injuries but it's unrealistic. Good teams can cope with a few injuries. Our list wasn't good enough to.
First three games hype
We beat Richmond (finished 12th), Brisbane (finished 13th) and Collingwood (finished 4th and started 2012 poorly) in the first three rounds and people thought we were going to be up there
Other
- Eddie wanted to leave and he left to be near his family and earn big dollars. Sam Jacobs was the best of 4 ruckmen we had once, Ratten let him go, probably could have kept him if we gave him the number one ruck role and a few extra dollars. Ratten Let Grigg go for Collins, Grigg would easily be getting a game with us. If players don't want to stay let them go! The club is bigger than any one player!
- Jamison, Simpson, Mclean, Armfield, Waite, Carrazzo, Kreuzer, Henderson, Garlett, Thomas and Tuohy were at their peak a few years ago, many of them are too old and can't run like they used to or are carring injury, if you want to blame a few injuries for not performing you can do it with this years group too. As for Garlett, you can ask him why he dropps his head going for marks and refuses to chase. Not Micks fault we have guys with poor attitudes who can't hack a challenge.
- How do you know Waite, Tuohy and Garlett aren't injured? Waite is injured at the moment and Tuohy has lost a lot of his pace which is obvious and a fitness thing. You can ask Waite and Garlett why they wont chase or do the team things. I haven't got time for poor attitudes and neither does the coach. Their the ones who can't get a kick, nothing to do with the coach.
- Judd played most of last year and hardly played this year. A lot of our past success comes from Judd and we are half the team without him up and firing.
- Ratten and Hughes ran the list into the ground to where it is now. Who do you recon missed opportunities to trade Bower, Thornton, Russell etc but kept them until he finally figured out they weren't much good? Ratten's job was to cut the list and decide who to trade, he hardly traded anyone in the end and kept anyone who could half play, we didn't have hardly any decent trades where we won under Ratten. Ratten threw away pick 11 to get Mclean. We could have had Talia and Fyfe instead of Lucas and Mclean! Ratten kept signing Joseph up who wasn't good enough. Let Grigg/Jacobs go for nothing, that's the same or worse than the Laidler thing people keep banging on about. Hughes who was an ordinary recruiter who had a patch between 2009-2012 we he hardly drafted anyone, it's killing out list now. The amount of 1st round picks he wasted as well! Malthouse has brought in guys like Docherty and Everitt for stuff all and traded out players who couldn't play.
- Our team is losing because our players aren't very good. Our players aren't very good because Hughes was a very poor recruiter and Ratten was a very ordinary judge of talent and projecting how good a young player would become and hung on to average players for too long and wasn't able to figure out who to trade.
Did Mick only start coaching us last week?
no obsession- if you read all of my comments i have also stated a few times, is it micks fault that the list is where its at i say no its not. Is he a bad coach.. not from what i believe, all i have stated is that he is arrogant and is doing carlton, my team, no favours with being so god damned arrogant. He is the head coach, so he should just Deal with it!
Call them rumours. I call them facts because I know them to be true.
