Mike Sheehan's Top 10 Indigenous Players of All Time

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Sttew said:
Had a chance to play with Geelong, but could never make the move. For that reason I wouldn't include him.

Pretty good list by Mike, IMO. Some would put Rioli ahead of a few on the list, but at least he's there.
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What arrogance, 'he could never make the move' you claim - he could have, didn't want to. To demonstrate the sheer arrogance of your claim, check out Graham Moss, approx. 10 years before Michael, went to Melbourne for 4 years, winning the Bombers B&F 3 times & winning a Brownlow - he chose to go, didn't understand what the noise was about so chose to go home.
Stephen Michael chose not to go but any list of a top 10 indigenous footballers is a joke without Stephen Michael - a joke that only Victorians try to pass off as fact. It is about time that it is acknowledged the AFL attracts all the best players, the VFL attracted lots of the best, never all the best.

PS Basil Campbell? You know of him Koori?
 
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Kwality said:
What arrogance, 'he could never make the move' you claim - he could have, didn't want to. To demonstrate the sheer arrogance of your claim, check out Graham Moss, approx. 10 years before Michael, went to Melbourne for 4 years, winning the Bombers B&F 3 times & winning a Brownlow - he chose to go, didn't understand what the noise was about so chose to go home.
Stephen Michael chose not to go but any list of a top 10 indigenous footballers is a joke - a joke that only Victorians try to pass off as fact. It is about time that it is acknowledged the AFL attracts all the best players, the VFL attracted lots of the best, never all the best.

PS Basil Campbell? You know of him Koori?
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Reasonable points made here!
 
On the episode the host specifically said they didn't restrict him to VFL, and they asked him about Stephen Michael and he said he didn't include him because he thought the VFL was the elite league in comparison to the SANFL and WAFL (not sure of his exact wording so I might be misrepresenting him a bit, that was the gist of it though).
 
Richard Pryor said:
On the episode the host specifically said they didn't restrict him to VFL, and they asked him about Stephen Michael and he said he didn't include him because he thought the VFL was the elite league in comparison to the SANFL and WAFL (not sure of his exact wording so I might be misrepresenting him a bit, that was the gist of it though).
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He should hang his head in shame.
 
Kwality said:
What arrogance, 'he could never make the move' you claim - he could have, didn't want to. To demonstrate the sheer arrogance of your claim, check out Graham Moss, approx. 10 years before Michael, went to Melbourne for 4 years, winning the Bombers B&F 3 times & winning a Brownlow - he chose to go, didn't understand what the noise was about so chose to go home.
Stephen Michael chose not to go but any list of a top 10 indigenous footballers is a joke - a joke that only Victorians try to pass off as fact. It is about time that it is acknowledged the AFL attracts all the best players, the VFL attracted lots of the best, never all the best.

PS Basil Campbell? You know of him Koori?
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Forgive my "arrogance". Geelong desperately tried to get Michael over. I don't know why he chose not to play in what was the number 1 competition in the country, the VFL. He never made the move so we, outside WA, will never know how good he was. Now if you are suggesting it is arrogant to say the VFL was the No.1 competition, then you are deluded!?
 
Dudley Leopard said:
Half of them from WA. Pretty good selection but Stephen Michael needs to be on the list. He was at least the equal of Goodes.
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Sheedy had a bit to say about the Noongar
"It's amazing that from such a small percentage of people, the Aboriginal community of Noongars, how many great players there have been and in some cases you're talking about superstars.
"It is a remarkable fact that there are more Noongar players in the AFL than from any other Aboriginal group of people in Australia."
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/23975106/sheedy-leads-salute-to-noongar-history/
 
Sttew said:
Forgive my "arrogance". Geelong desperately tried to get Michael over. I don't know why he chose not to play in what was the number 1 competition in the country, the VFL. He never made the move so we, outside WA, will never know how good he was. Now if you are suggesting it is arrogant to say the VFL was the No.1 competition, then you are deluded!?
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lol. we will never know how good he was? has all evidence of WA football pre-AFL been destroyed? video? first-hand accounts? his sandover medals? B&Fs? 17 state and state of origin games? being named all australian captain?

no one said the VFL wasn't the no. 1 competition in the land - only that it didn't contain all of the best players in the land, like the AFL does now.
 

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Sttew said:
Forgive my "arrogance". Geelong desperately tried to get Michael over. I don't know why he chose not to play in what was the number 1 competition in the country, the VFL. He never made the move so we, outside WA, will never know how good he was. Now if you are suggesting it is arrogant to say the VFL was the No.1 competition, then you are deluded!?
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Surely you aren't claiming the VFL is comparable with the AFL - its not & that's my point. IF you need to claim #1 spot amongst the state based leagues, go for it.
Good to see you admit you don't know ...
 
questionable said:
lol. we will never know how good he was? has all evidence of WA football pre-AFL been destroyed? video? first-hand accounts? his sandover medals? B&Fs? 17 state and state of origin games? being named all australian captain?

no one said the VFL wasn't the no. 1 competition in the land - only that it didn't contain all of the best players in the land, like the AFL does now.
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It's all moot because Mike Shhehan"s list has one common theme - every footballer on the list played VFL / AFL
 
Sttew said:
It's all moot because Mike Shhehan"s list has one common theme - every footballer on the list played VFL / AFL
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Given his role in footy, Mike needs to lift his game when people like Sttew take his comments as gospel, institutionalising falsehoods. You need to contact him Sttew to ensure his writing doesn't lead you to accepting blatant falsehoods.
 
Kwality said:
Surely you aren't claiming the VFL is comparable with the AFL - its not & that's my point. .
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What are you trying to say? Of course the AFL today is superior to the VFL of yesteryear, but wasn't the AFL borne out of he VFL? Mike Sheehan's list is about indigenous players in the VFL / AFL
 

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