Yep, I definitely wasn’t insinuating you have to be a star to be a valuable team member, the discussion was around the over all forward setup going forward
Recommitted Mitch Georgiades - Signs on for another 4 years
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Drafting a 'kpf' forward who is shorter than Jai Culley(coincidentally, also a forward as a junior, now an inside mid) and relying on him to play KPP has disaster written all over it.
No thanks.
No thanks.
Jack Darling has had a pretty good career don’t you agree?
He’s taller than Jack and 1cm shorter the J Riewoldt
I also don’t think anyone would expect him to play the number one role
So did Fevola and Lockett.
But when KPDs are pushing 200cm these days, we're definitely in need of another KPF who's a similar height.
I'd be wary of paying anything decent for a tweener forward.
Mitch isn’t a tweener, that’s the 188cm ish types.
Mitch will sit on the head of the 200cm types or take off into space while that 200cm bloke is left in his dust.
Also, why is this an either / or situation?
Hell, if there’s a 198cm gun kf out there you can take instead of Mitch go ahead
A) this player likely isn’t available
B) if he is there’s really nothing stopping you from getting both if you want them and they nominate your club.
In an ideal world we’re keeping Mitch to partner with Marshall long term and another kf develops to take Dixon’s spot. Hopefully Scully is that man. Under a coach whose gameplan isn’t crowd the f50 like a Japanese train at peak hour that forward line will flourish. Though I do fear we might lose Mitch.
Mitch will sit on the head of the 200cm types or take off into space while that 200cm bloke is left in his dust.
Also, why is this an either / or situation?
Hell, if there’s a 198cm gun kf out there you can take instead of Mitch go ahead
A) this player likely isn’t available
B) if he is there’s really nothing stopping you from getting both if you want them and they nominate your club.
In an ideal world we’re keeping Mitch to partner with Marshall long term and another kf develops to take Dixon’s spot. Hopefully Scully is that man. Under a coach whose gameplan isn’t crowd the f50 like a Japanese train at peak hour that forward line will flourish. Though I do fear we might lose Mitch.
I mean, if we finish outside the bottom 2, I daresay we pick up Curtin, then we'll probably look for a KPD, so it's more likely we might target someone like DGB, who seems to be on the outer at Hawthorn.
Some are, not all
The reigning Coleman medalist is 193cm
I wouldn't be passing up on him because he's not 200cm
Throw him in with Allen, find yourself a decent forward/ruck as well and you'd have a pretty good mix
They don't all have to be 200cm
You wouldn't be paying a lot for him anyway
They're the exception, not the norm.
I'd pay a mid/late second if he was on the market and only wanted to go West.
Wouldn't get into a bidding war.
Lol that is a ridiculous suggestion
Port would have to be mad to let him go for that, and good luck finding a better kf for anything near that price.
Guaranteed the (hypothetical trade request) roles are reversed (he was at wc asking for a trade to port) and wc fans would be asking for butters / rozee for him.
Nah.
We've been stitched up enough by Port in trades.
PSD or late second, I reckon, especially considering the club was pissed after the Rioli fiasco.
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Lol there’s absolutely no sign anywhere that west coast the club is pissed at port over the rioli deal. That’s just idiot fans who had it in their head a front running small forward with 2 strikes hanging over his head was worth a top 30 pick.
Also west coast fans still holding a grudge over port paying pick 28 (end of first rounder) for ebert , a moderately decent midfielder is ridiculous.
There’s entitled, then there’s thinking you’ve been hard done by cause a team didn’t fork out first rounders for ebert and rioli.
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He is taller than Tex WalkerPatrick Cripps is actually taller than Charlie Curnow lol
We let Lycett go to you guys as a FA.
So ok, we are even!
Its likely going to end up a swap for Rioli. You get your own 2nd back. Take it or leave it.
Eagles will finish bottom 2 and he's out of contract. And they have other needs and deals to consider.
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The Eagles got the bloke they wanted in the draft (Ginbey) along with another top 15 pick in that complicated trade with Port and North, was a pretty good deal for them in hindsight.
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I don't mind Georgiadis height. I think height it becomes an obsession for footy fans. The dees won a flag with Fritsch as our main forward. Yes, we had Ben Brown who is a spud so I think the forward line just needs to be filled with guns. So I'd take talent over height any day of the week. I'd love to have Georgiadis at the dees. For the right cost. Having Georgiades/Matthew Jefferson/Van Rooyen would be an exciting forward line for the future.
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Well, either that’s just a flat out lie, or you have little understanding of forward line structures. Possibly both.
Fritsch was clearly your best forward, but both Brown and McDonald were your main key forwards.
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Yeah, I do agree that Brown and McDonald were our main key forwards. But both weren't/aren't very good. In fact, Brown was horrendous. Which is exactly my point. You don't need to have 200cm guns to be a flag contender so Georgiadis' height doesn't matter to me.
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If they keep Ken around, MG has no real incentive or reason to stay, especially if he is going to spend time in the SANFL.
I agree we need to keep him, I’m not sure we’re bare after Dixon goes though
Marshall Georgiades finlayson Scully lord, I’m not sure there’s many teams deeper than that.
We lose Mitch we certainly should be prioritising kfs in coming drafts, but we would certainly be no worse off than lots of teams.
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I cant imagine his value changed much at all given it was R3.
If he struggles to kick goals and is dropped late in the season that would be a big factor.
He may still kick 40 goals.
So Lord and Scully are big boys, but are a long way from guaranteed to make it. They have the size for a dominate KF but most teams have some tall forwards that haven't proven themselves yet. Finlayson is ok, but more suited to that 2nd Ruck role.
So as a known quality that leaves Marshall, and he still is a little away from stamping himself on the game.
Georgiades is in the reserves and has a way to go before anything is known long term about his future.
Rozee you would want moving into the midfield more and Rioli is a decent small forward.
That's not an overly dominant forward line. Port need alot of things to go right for it to be one of the better AFL forward lines.
I think you under estimate how much of a hole Dixon will leave. He takes the best defender every week. He has the strongest marking ability in the forward line, and he is physically imposing. Marshall, Lord and Scully are all skinny and don't have that physical presence Dixon does. Defenders worry about having him Smash into them.
I think you’re over estimating how strong other teams forward depth is.
We lose Georgiades and Dixon no doubt would go around again, leaving us with no worse key forward bunch than like over a dozen other clubs.
We would have dixon , Marshall, finlayson, Scully and lord and that’s even before we get into the possibility of teakle / visentini developing that way.
If you think that say, 66% of the league has a deeper set of kfs feel free to name the 10 clubs and their kfs ..
also, rozee has been a midfielder for over a year now? I’m unsure why you’re referring to him not playing forward.
None of this means we don’t need kfs, my mantra is that there’s no team in the league that has too many kfs, and they’re so hard to draft and develop and important to the game I would always be drafting them, but in no means are we in any kind of strife with our kf stocks.
