Mitch McGovern (please read OP)

[mickfaxis]

Still waiting...can we start a counter of # of days since MM said he wanted to leave but hasn't nominated Carlton

He won't nominate until the trade period begins or just prior to. There's no point in him nominating now. And if there is it's just solely for the public's purposes. I'm certain he's told the AFC where he'd like to go to, and private meetings with that club are taking place.

We will most likely see a deal happen in the first 24-48 hours of trade period. And like Dangerfield's early deal, meetings took place many weeks prior to that being official.

 

[Miss Vanessa]

I've been banging on about this recently, but the only way an equal pay structure like ours can work is if its coupled with a ruthless list turnover strategy like Geelong and Hawthorn have.

We hold onto Van Berlo, Thommo, Otten, Jacobs, Dmac, Douglas etc until they can't walk.

Geelong and Hawthorn don't flinch about moving on much higher quality players like Hodge, Mitchell, Chapman, Stevie J, Podsiadly while they can still play on elsewhere.

We're trying to copy their recipe but we only have 1 of the 2 required ingredients

Geelong and Hawthorn were in a position to do that because they had genuine stars or top quality recruits coming in (Dangerfield, Henderson, Touhy, O’meara, Mitchell etc.). Plus, the veterans they let go would have still been taking up a decent whack of salary cap. So there were actually ruthless decisions to be made in order to bring in younger guns.

This is in contrast to us, who have no big names lined up and whose veterans would be on waaaay less (I hope) than Stevie J and Hodge etc. would be. If we had Shiel lined up and we needed to make space in the cap, then you’d imagine some hard decisions would be made.

In the last couple of years we’ve seemingly become better at list decisions. Hendo and Lyon were let go to bring in Gibbs. Yes, we’ve kept veterans on the list for single year contracts but I’m happy with that as long as they have to earn their spot. For next year I’d probably prefer to have Douglas and Mackay rather than a speculative couple of picks in the 70s.

As long as when the time comes we can move on serviceable players in order to bring in better ones, then I can’t complain too much.

 

[mattymac]

If causing turnovers via pressure in the forward half is the most critical component of today’s game (as Nick Riewoldt said last night on AFL 360), then losing Cameron one year and McGovern the next is not helping our cause. On balance in our forward line, we would be better off playing McGovern instead of Walker or Jenkins. Obviously off-field stuff matters too - but if Sydney are willing to move on someone like Hannebery - I think Walker is in a similar boat. You just couldn’t imagine the AFC doing this though and maybe rightly so.

This is why I see Rankine as so important. He has the tools to be Charlie on speed if correctly developed

 

[1990crow]

This is why I see Rankine as so important. He has the tools to be Charlie on speed if correctly developed

I want Lukosius but not getting Rankine would be a shit result.

 

[marty36]

If causing turnovers via pressure in the forward half is the most critical component of today’s game (as Nick Riewoldt said last night on AFL 360), then losing Cameron one year and McGovern the next is not helping our cause. On balance in our forward line, we would be better off playing McGovern instead of Walker or Jenkins. Obviously off-field stuff matters too - but if Sydney are willing to move on someone like Hannebery - I think Walker is in a similar boat. You just couldn’t imagine the AFC doing this though and maybe rightly so.

To suggest playing Gov infront of walker, means you don't really follow football do you?

 

[Pugsley]

To suggest playing Gov infront of walker, means you don't really follow football do you?

Coming from a bloke who said Burton is streets ahead of Doedee

 

[hey shorty]

Coming from a bloke who said Burton is streets ahead of Doedee

Still thinks it too.

 

[skam85]

lol, marty suggesting people don't have a grasp of player comparisons.

We've transcended complete nuff.

 

[Pugsley]

lol, marty suggesting people don't have a grasp of player comparisons.

We've transcended complete nuff.

I find it easier to chortle.

 

[Brenton Davy]

https://www.fiveaa.com.au/sport/Rep...owhere-Near-What-They-Want-For-Mitch-McGovern


Barrett at it again.

Truly dislikes us

 

[GreyCrow]

https://www.fiveaa.com.au/sport/Rep...owhere-Near-What-They-Want-For-Mitch-McGovern


Barrett at it again.

Truly dislikes us

Not so much doesnt like us as getting paid to be spoonfed stuff by Carlton

 

[beartoo]

https://www.fiveaa.com.au/sport/Rep...owhere-Near-What-They-Want-For-Mitch-McGovern


Barrett at it again.

Truly dislikes us

Cool. Offer a late 1st and we keep. The dude will have to play his heart out all year to maintain the price he's after. We have the whip hand with two years to run on his contract, whatever D Barret thinks. Two 1sts for Leaver and two for Gibbs. McGovern is a better prospect than either of them.

 

[jirkago]

https://www.fiveaa.com.au/sport/Rep...owhere-Near-What-They-Want-For-Mitch-McGovern


Barrett at it again.

Truly dislikes us

What an absolute tool of a man, just a real shit bloke. He’s on triple m and Jars and Lewie never ever question his motives or his character.
If any club had Gov and got offered a 2nd rounder, they would tell em to piss off


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[GROTTO]

Not so much doesnt like us as getting paid to be spoonfed stuff by Carlton

"Cash for bs comments"


VFL should investigate if he is being paid off by the Blues to print any bs.

 

[Vikingblood]

I would absolutely be happy for the club to play hardball on this even if we come out worse off by holding onto a disgruntled player.
It's time to draw a line in the sand and if we don't get the right price, then he's not for sale. He can stay and play or even quit football for all I care, but time to hold firm.

 

[Jarman3]

I would absolutely be happy for the club to play hardball on this even if we come out worse off by holding onto a disgruntled player.
It's time to draw a line in the sand and if we don't get the right price, then he's not for sale. He can stay and play or even quit football for all I care, but time to hold firm.

Yep. With 2 years left on his contract, his value is whatever we say it is, not what other clubs might want to pay.

 

[jirkago]

I would absolutely be happy for the club to play hardball on this even if we come out worse off by holding onto a disgruntled player.
It's time to draw a line in the sand and if we don't get the right price, then he's not for sale. He can stay and play or even quit football for all I care, but time to hold firm.

We are in no obligation to trade him. If it’s not up to our standard, he stays. Unfortunately for him contracts mean something and he signed one last year.



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[Paladin]

We are in no obligation to trade him. If it’s not up to our standard, he stays. Unfortunately for him contracts mean something and he signed one last year.



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He will stay and play his heart out if he has too. Absolutely no doubt about it.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He will stay and play his heart out if he has too. Absolutely no doubt about it.

Gotta remember, if McGovern were to drop the ball, upon coming back to us .....then his next contract, with whichever team, would be less that this one .....and he's looking for the "big" contract after the next 2 years

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

https://www.fiveaa.com.au/sport/Rep...owhere-Near-What-They-Want-For-Mitch-McGovern


Barrett at it again.

Truly dislikes us

Lol, clueless.

Gov is our asset under contract, so we will only do a deal if given a satisfactory offer otherwise we keep him... & there is nothing Barrett or anyone can do.

 

[Crowked]

The VFL media is a joke.

Dropped twice? Injured maybe, dropped? Ah, no.

Got a story to tell? I call bullshit!

I hope we do just keep him. **** the VFL.

 

[hey shorty]

Barratts lack of football knowledge is truly astonishing.

If the pick is less than what we got for Cameron then he stays, it's as simple as that.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Barratts lack of football knowledge is truly astonishing.

If the pick is less than what we got for Cameron then he stays, it's as simple as that.

Carlton want to make him one of their highest paid players... but Gov is only worth a 2nd rounder lol.

Something doesn't compute...

 

[Elite Crow]

Carlton want to make him one of their highest paid players... but Gov is only worth a 2nd rounder lol.

Something doesn't compute...

Is Barrett a Carlton supporter? That would explain it

 

[Crowked]

I reckon Carlton know they’re getting an end of first round PP, and Barrett is acting on their behalf to make that the price. It’s a pity for them that we don’t give a rats arse what Barrett thinks.