Mitchell Marsh

[Catters 070911]

This is infuriating and im a fan of mitch.

What he needs is time away from the lime light perfecting his game (especially his batting) for WA and consistently performing well for a period of time.
The selectors are seriously ******* him up by selecting him when he isn't even ready.

I hope he actually bats a couple of centuries, even just so he can shove the criticisms up a lot of his critics' collective asses.

 

[gym4life]

The way most of you talk, you actually sound like you WANT Marsh to fail, rather than turn it around and prove you wrong.

Because most people on BigFooty would rather be right than a sportsperson proving them wrong.

I want him to fail so he doesn’t stay in to **** up for the next ten tests that he would be gifted.

 

[Catters 070911]

a) The selectors need to give him a full domestic season at least. He’s taken great strides already in my eyes.

b) People need to get off his back. He’s still one of our best prospects and is in no way a ‘hack’, as his detractors would have you believe.

People would get off his back if his surname wasn't "Marsh".

 

[Scotland]

After 4 years Steve Waugh averaged 30 with the bat and 40 with the ball. Good thing we didn't persist with him...

 

[Catters 070911]

He's definitely in our best ODI side and I'm not willing to write him off as a test player. But Maxwell in tremendous form and it's not like you're searching for fifteen overs a day with the ball

Plus he is Victorian, so he could be batting "ducks" and people here would still want him in the side.

Notice how cricket fans from a particular state never ask for their own to be dropped, no matter what their form?

 

[Scotland]

26 overs 0/51, our most economical bowler and created a few chances.

Was there someone else we should've picked at #6 to do that?

 

[Catters 070911]

I want him to fail so he doesn’t stay in to **** up for the next ten tests that he would be gifted.

You're a fool then.

You should want him to succeed, so that he can finally justify the faith that has been put in him, and pays it back and helps Australia win.

But your fragile ego means that you would rather be right than proven wrong.

 

[TBoyleSuperstar]

The way most of you talk, you actually sound like you WANT Marsh to fail, rather than turn it around and prove you wrong.

Because most people on BigFooty would rather be right than a sportsperson proving them wrong.

I’d love to see him become the next Gary sobers or Jacques kallis. Heck, I’d even take him being the next Shane Watson.
But I also like to avoid disappointment and that’s what he’s given more than anything.
It shits me he’s been gifted so so much opportunity despite not warranting it.
But hey, if he tons up in the next couple of tests I’ll be rapt

 

[eddiesmith]

I think Mitch and his brother cop it because of their surname.

Father-son is embraced in AFL, and fans love when the son of a Legend plays for their team, and gets behind him.

But in cricket, for some reason, people see it as "nepotism" and think that they only get games because of who their father was.

Mitch Marsh could get three centuries in a row, and prove you all wrong, and yet you would still say that he ONLY got the spot because of his last name.

I bet if his name was Mitch JONES or Mitch SMITH, rather than Mitch Marsh, you would get behind him more, rather than want to see him fail, so that you can justify your prejudices, because you never got advantages in life based on your heritage.

1. You obviously never visited a Collingwood forum in the last 20 years and seen their opinion of anyone with the last name Cloke...

2. Would a player named Smith or Jones have played 31 tests in the top 6 averaging just 26?

 

[The_Reaper]

To think, if Victoria were capable of producing an international standard wicket we wouldn't need to pick a fifth bowling option and Marsh wouldn't be playing.

 

[gym4life]

You're a fool then.

You should want him to succeed, so that he can finally justify the faith that has been put in him, and pays it back and helps Australia win.

But your fragile ego means that you would rather be right than proven wrong.

I’d love for him to have consistent long term success, what I don’t want is for him to do well in this one test and then go back to being a walking wicket.

 

[TBoyleSuperstar]

To think, if Victoria were capable of producing an international standard wicket we wouldn't need to pick a fifth bowling option and Marsh wouldn't be playing.

It’s sad that this is so ridiculously true

 

[RookiePick]

Probably one of Mitch's better tests so far. Has bowled well, played his role. Hopefully he can hold up an end with the willow in hand too.

 

[Blue1980]

I’d love for him to have consistent long term success, what I don’t want is for him to do well in this one test and then go back to being a walking wicket.

We can't know what will happen in the future, just the here and now.

If I was picking an XI to play for Australia would Mitch Marsh be in it? Unlikely, I can see the logic on a lifeless mcg pitch where he has been valuable in bowling 26 overs to ease the workload on the frontline bowlers.

Thing is if he does nothing with the bat we may as well go with a 5th bowler.

Playing him on flat pitches makes sense for the bowling workload but also for his batting, as he rarely makes runs on pitches that aren't flat.

 

[HLM*]

Probably one of Mitch's better tests so far. Has bowled well, played his role. Hopefully he can hold up an end with the willow in hand too.

Anyone who bowls 135+ can bowl stump to stump and get the same fruitless result as what Mitch did. The fact that his 0/53 effort is being called a good effort by him says it all really.

 

[gym4life]

Probably one of Mitch's better tests so far. Has bowled well, played his role. Hopefully he can hold up an end with the willow in hand too.

The fact that this is one of Mitch’s better tests is the problem.

 

[RookiePick]

He hasn't sucked. Just accept it. No one is going to turn down a test cap.

 

[Redline]

After 4 years Steve Waugh averaged 30 with the bat and 40 with the ball. Good thing we didn't persist with him...

Steve Waugh was 20 when he debuted, Marsh is now 27. Different expectations.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

After 4 years Steve Waugh averaged 30 with the bat and 40 with the ball. Good thing we didn't persist with him...

After 30 tests Steve Waugh averaged:
41.68 with the bat
41.60 with the ball

After 30 tests Mitch Marsh averaged:
26.09 with the bat
42.46 with the ball

I think we can stop the Marsh/Waugh comparisons now. It's a completely false equivalency.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Marsh has a career average of 26 and his recent record is significantly worse than that,

Shit! Does that mean he’s actually peaked as a batsman

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Shit! Does that mean he’s actually peaked as a batsman

Lets be honest, with his technique (or lack of) his average isn't getting much better

 

[Bradesmaen]

After 30 tests Steve Waugh averaged:
41.68 with the bat
41.60 with the ball

After 30 tests Mitch Marsh averaged:
26.09 with the bat
42.46 with the ball

I think we can stop the Marsh/Waugh comparisons now. It's a completely false equivalency.

After 30 tests Shane Watson averaged:

39.23 with the bat
29.90 with the ball

Yet he was one of the most hated cricketers of a generation.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

After 30 tests Shane Watson averaged:

39.23 with the bat
29.90 with the ball

Yet he was one of the most hated cricketers of a generation.

Yeah I never totally understood that. I defended him for a long time both on here and IRL, but eventually joined the masses in asking for him to be dropped due to form.

The point still stands though that Mitch Marsh really hasn't done enough to justify his continued selection.

 

[Hamingja]

After 30 tests Steve Waugh averaged:
41.68 with the bat
41.60 with the ball

After 30 tests Mitch Marsh averaged:
26.09 with the bat
42.46 with the ball

I think we can stop the Marsh/Waugh comparisons now. It's a completely false equivalency.

I was just about to call that post out too.

I don't have Mitch Marsh stamped as a never again player. He obviously has talent and there is not a heap of talented players around but go back to shield cricket, improve your game and put the performances on the board first ffs.

 

[archibald]

After 4 years Steve Waugh averaged 30 with the bat and 40 with the ball. Good thing we didn't persist with him...

This line gets trotted out everytime....Steve Waugh averaged more than 32 in first class cricket for ****s sake