Mod. Notice Moderator crackdown over dismissive and unconstructive posting

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Folks, we have done this previously and we feel it is time to do it again.

There is a increasing amount of smug and dismissive posting happening on the boards. People are being ridiculed for reasonable opinions and this serves to quell debate and a sense of community, which is what we are here for.

There is room for positive and negative opinion on this board, if articulated in a constructive fashion. You can give reasons why a player should, or should not, be in the side ... if articulated constructively. You can give reasons why a coach should, or should not, be on our staff ... if articulated constructively.

If a poster only appears to post negatively after a loss, and you have doubts over the legitimacy of their intentions or support, that's a mod issue. Report it and we will discuss it together. We have not deputised other posters to take them to task and quell discussion that they don't agree with.

We also don't want posters brow beating each other endlessly with circular arguments that neither are going to agree with. Swallow your pride, agree to disagree and walk away if you can't maintain decorum and can't offer anything new to the argument.

We don't want posters calling out others because they articulated an opinion against a player and that player has a good game. The reverse applies also. This petty pointscoring does nothing to foster positivity in our community.

If we see posts that contain language so as to minimise or dismiss the other person's opinion, instead of just addressing it at face value, we can and will act on it until we get some sort of balance back on the board. This balance usually occurs when more people start complaining about how tough we are, instead of how soft we are. When this happens, we will call off our extra vigilant approach and trust you to maintain the standard we have set.

It's never been our agenda to lose Carlton posters. We want this to be a vibrant place for comraderie and debate, with the hope that we can support, inform and educate each other. If that's not your agenda, you may find this crackdown to your disliking.

We will use warnings, infractions and thread bans as the weapons in our arsenal. We do so with good intentions, even though many won't feel this way.

There may be examples other than what I have listed and if we pull someone up, we will explain it at the time.

This post will be copied to our rules thread. Mod. Notice - Carlton Board Rules & Posting Quality Policy

I have bumped the snark moratorium so if any posters guilty of some of the above want to mend some fences, please use the levity and all encompassing kumbaya love of this thread to do so. It's there for forgiveness. It's there for posters to be the bigger person and put their hand up for transgressions. It is not there for 'told you so' retorts or airing further dirty laundry to the detriment of others.

Universal Love - Snark Moratorium

Okay folks, it's healing time. We have done this sort of thread before when we have had a build up of frustrations and tensions and we lash out at the ones we love and we come in here and confess we went too far, didn't mean something, that it was not personal, that it escalated and we could...

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Play nice please friends.


Aphrodite
Jeremias
MrsEddieBetts
Gethelred

 

[The Toad]

Are the perpetrators looking at double demerit points?

Only on public holidays and weekends

 

[lukep_86]

Maybe we need a matrix, MRO and tribunal

 

[Aphrodite]

Maybe we need a matrix, MRO and tribunal

Will this do

5 points - 1 week account suspension.
10 points - 2 weeks account suspension
15 points - 3 weeks account suspension
20 points - Your time is up. Permanent ban. Byeeeee.

 

[The Toad]

Will this do

5 points - 1 week account suspension.
10 points - 2 weeks account suspension
15 points - 3 weeks account suspension
20 points - Your time is up. Permanent ban. Byeeeee.

As long as they’re only given out 1 point at a time!!! Unless of course a more severe penalty is required!!!

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

In a nutshell:

 

[Revenant1965]

In a nutshell:

Or else...

 

[jj1978]

Sadly damage has been done.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Long time coming, bravo.

Had always felt that our board was one of the best on BF, which is both a tribute to the mods and to our community at large. Self-policing has generally been even-handed and effective.

Unfortunately there has been a gradual slide, with a small number of high-volume posters pretty much dominating discussion with argumentative bullshit. I'll put my hand up and say I was probably becoming part of that problem in the back end of last year, and noticing that prompted me to log off and take some time away for my own sanity and for the sake of the board. Perhaps others should consider a detox as well, or at least a scaling back of their involvement. Posting should add to a discussion, and if what you want to say doesn't do so, maybe it's best left unsaid.

I've long thought that the members of this community who post more frequently should be held to higher standards. When your name pops up 3, 4 or 5 times per page on a regular basis, you've got a greater responsibility for helping to set the tone of the board.

It's time to Make BF Carlton Great Again. Constructive and polite discourse should be the minimum standard, and while I appreciate the mods making a concerted effort to tidy things up, they really shouldn't have to. There are a lot of intelligent adults here who should be more than capable of self-reflection and self-moderation.

 

[Revenant1965]

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Long time coming, bravo.

Had always felt that our board was one of the best on BF, which is both a tribute to the mods and to our community at large. Self-policing has generally been even-handed and effective.

Unfortunately there has been a gradual slide, with a small number of high-volume posters pretty much dominating discussion with argumentative bullshit. I'll put my hand up and say I was probably becoming part of that problem in the back end of last year, and noticing that prompted me to log off and take some time away for my own sanity and for the sake of the board. Perhaps others should consider a detox as well, or at least a scaling back of their involvement. Posting should add to a discussion, and if what you want to say doesn't do so, maybe it's best left unsaid.

I've long thought that the members of this community who post more frequently should be held to higher standards. When your name pops up 3, 4 or 5 times per page on a regular basis, you've got a greater responsibility for helping to set the tone of the board.

It's time to Make BF Carlton Great Again. Constructive and polite discourse should be the minimum standard, and while I appreciate the mods making a concerted effort to tidy things up, they really shouldn't have to. There are a lot of intelligent adults here who should be more than capable of self-reflection and self-moderation.

Self-censorship is great and encouraged. I'll add that, while the ignore button isn't perfect, it is useful. If you find yourself disagreeing with a particular poster, tagging or mentioning them to bait them into more arguments, or getting frustrated by their opinions, try putting them on ignore.

I've muted several words on twitter that I'm tired of reading about (cough "Meghan" cough) and it's a much more pleasant space to be in.

 

[passmark]

Long time coming, bravo.

Had always felt that our board was one of the best on BF, which is both a tribute to the mods and to our community at large. Self-policing has generally been even-handed and effective.

Unfortunately there has been a gradual slide, with a small number of high-volume posters pretty much dominating discussion with argumentative bullshit. I'll put my hand up and say I was probably becoming part of that problem in the back end of last year, and noticing that prompted me to log off and take some time away for my own sanity and for the sake of the board. Perhaps others should consider a detox as well, or at least a scaling back of their involvement. Posting should add to a discussion, and if what you want to say doesn't do so, maybe it's best left unsaid.

I've long thought that the members of this community who post more frequently should be held to higher standards. When your name pops up 3, 4 or 5 times per page on a regular basis, you've got a greater responsibility for helping to set the tone of the board.

It's time to Make BF Carlton Great Again. Constructive and polite discourse should be the minimum standard, and while I appreciate the mods making a concerted effort to tidy things up, they really shouldn't have to. There are a lot of intelligent adults here who should be more than capable of self-reflection and self-moderation.

MBFCGA!

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Sadly damage has been done.

That's an individual perspective. Let those without sin cast the first stone etc etc.

Anyway, if you're here posting, any damage is repairable. I don't mean that you will embrace those you don't like, but you'll find out where the limits are.

 

[TENACIOUS]

Damn...
Must have missed a good barney

 

[Dadda Dave]

Good job..
It's exhausting reading the same crap by the same posters in silly school ground arguments .
Well done mods..

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Good.

 

[Yubby]

Well said. I also think there's a direct correlation between increasing snark on this forum and declining bluemours! The bluemours were always a good way of keeping things light hearted and attracting people to this forum, perhaps you can fix this one too ODN?

 

[Blue Reaper]

Good.

I’m largely irrelevant round these parts, and happy to be so. But the increase of escalating snide smartarse responses, petty point scoring, and attempts to ridicule others masquerading as debate is tiresome and at times has me questioning my participation here.

Do better folks.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I want to add that trolling others by way of emoji has also gone too far. If someone posts a serious opinion and your contribution is to laugh at it, it's no better than dismissing it with a response. In fact, it's probably worse.

This issue is across both sides of the yawning divide.

 

[TENACIOUS]

I want to add that trolling others by way of emoji has also gone too far. If someone posts a serious opinion and your contribution is to laugh at it, it's no better than dismissing it with a response. In fact, it's probably worse.

This issue is across both sides of the yawning divide.

Should remove the dislike button, it's pretty degrading when you have a serious opinion...

(Here come the dislikes)

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Should remove the dislike button, it's pretty degrading when you have a serious opinion...

(Here come the dislikes)

Tell me about it. If someone disagrees, please do me the courtesy of telling me what part you disagree with and why. We mods get emoji trolled too.

But, it's a BigFooty thing not a Carlton board thing so we don't have much say in it.

 

[Funk]

I’ve visited other club boards and they were mostly deplorable.

Constructive criticism is underrated!!!

Well done on the crackdown.

It’s not that hard to be respectful folks.

 

[Dadda Dave]

Posters coming on the autopsy mostly after a loss and shit canning our own players is disrespectful too I reckon..

But never hear from them when we win and play well.

 

[ferrisb]

It's time to Make BF Carlton Great Again.

Edit: Damn you, passmark

 

[ferrisb]

Damn...
Must have missed a good barney

There have been lots of barneys.

None of them were good.