List Mgmt. MSD Watch 2023 [NMFC select Robert Hansen Jnr with #2 in 2023 MSD]

[King Corey]

Building teams and culture, you have to reward the effort. You have to show pathways to success. Otherwise what’s the point, we might as well refer back to best practices in finance.

I admire the effort mate, just not sure if his football is good enough.

 

[King Corey]

Sounds a bit like Paul Curtis.

Given the slim pickings and our record with the MSD historically, I’m less worried about position and more concerned with them actually being able to play League football.

Not close enough to the power or talent level of Curtis to compensate for that kind of gamestyle imo.

 

[Sphynx]

I admire the Sam Lowson story but wonder if his footballing is getting a little overhyped?

Think he'll do well in an already strong side but plays as a small marking target much more often than a crumber.

Most definitely.

I've been saying all year, I don't think his game translates at all to AFL footy. He's a solid lump, who can move at VFL and local footy and kick bags.

He's Ben McKinley 2.0.

He's nowhere near mobile enough for AFL footy as a small medium/forward.

The best we could hope from him would be a version of Sam Lloyd, who came into the league at 23, not 28.

Not only that, we have about 5-6 types on the list like him already and we have Brayden George fit next year.

Would be a ridiculous selection in my eyes.


Now Maric plays a similar half forward role at the moment, but he plays higher, is almost 10 years younger, a late bloomer and has played as an intercepting half back at times this season.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I admire the Sam Lowson story but wonder if his footballing is getting a little overhyped?

Think he'll do well in an already strong side but plays as a small marking target much more often than a crumber.

Don’t think it is necessarily just a question of crumber v small marking target.

One current hole on our list is a really fast small forward capable of pressuring everything and kicking around 1-1.5 goals a game with the occasional big game (spicer is in the maybe pile, but you need a few of his types). Lowson is not that type.

While kicking goals and quite capable of crumbing, I wouldn’t say he pressures a lot and looks to mark first. He is quickish, but he’s not electric. He plays very similarly to Cooper Harvey and, arguably, and a few of our other medium forwards.

With Cooper showing good form (I think Cooper has a far higher ceiling), Z being Z, Ford maybe finding a place on the wing, Curtis needing games, George being highly rated and Sheezel dominating a similar half forward forward, I’m just not sure Lowson is a pressing need atm.

In saying that, I have no issue picking him up as he’s a natural goal kicker, age isn’t a major issue and the msd is generally a shot in the dark anyway, but there are better options.
I like Declase, Teal, Casalini (192cm type in the Johnson from Pies mould) and even Hansen as a prospective electric small forward type.

 

[King Corey]

Don’t think it is necessarily just a question of crumber v small marking target.

One current hole on our list is a really fast small forward capable of pressuring everything and kicking around 1-1.5 goals a game with the occasional big game (spicer is in the maybe pile, but you need a few of his types). Lowson is not that type.

While kicking goals and quite capable of crumbing, I wouldn’t say he pressures a lot and looks to mark first. He is fast, but he’s not electric. He plays very similarly to Cooper Harvey and, arguably, and a few of our other medium forwards.

With Cooper showing good form, Z being Z, Ford maybe finding a place on the wing, Curtis needing games, George being highly rated and Sheezel moving to a similar half forward forward, I’m just not sure Lowson is a pressing need atm.

In saying that, I have no issue picking him up as he’s a natural goal kicker, age isn’t a major issue and the msd is generally a shot in the dark anyway, but there are better options.

That sums it up. There's a bit of Lachlan Hosie in this one I reckon.

If there's nobody leaping Newcombe style on our ranking sheets, I'd rather swing big on some 208cm boom-bust kid or an erratic but super fast small forward who matches your description.

Somebody walks out of the MSD with a good player each year its been run. Hopefully we can join that group.

 

[Twangler]

Lynch saying "Lowson the most dynamic player in the VFL".....why say/advertise that if we plan to pick him up? Sounds to me we passing on Lowson.

It might be me being naive here, but I think it’s just Lynch altruistically wanting what’s best for the player

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

It might be me being naive here, but I think it’s just Lynch altruistically wanting what’s best for the player

That’s the way I interpreted it too.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

That sums it up. There's a bit of Lachlan Hosie in this one I reckon.

If there's nobody leaping Newcombe style on our ranking sheets, I'd rather swing big on some 208cm boom-bust kid or an erratic but super fast small forward who matches your description.

Somebody walks out of the MSD with a good player each year its been run. Hopefully we can join that group.

Or anyone that Sooup talks up…

 

[Sphynx]

That sums it up. There's a bit of Lachlan Hosie in this one I reckon.

If there's nobody leaping Newcombe style on our ranking sheets, I'd rather swing big on some 208cm boom-bust kid or an erratic but super fast small forward who matches your description.

Somebody walks out of the MSD with a good player each year its been run. Hopefully we can join that group.

Maric is the Newcombe of this year though really....

Whilst he's not had the full season in the VFL as a 20 year old like Newcombe at that point, he's been too good for the u/18 comp in most of his games, been dominant in some of the state trial games and then had 15 touches and 2.2 as a half forward in his only VFL game.

I think West Coast will pick him though, I doubt we pass if available.

I reckon he'd be playing games for us within 3-4 rounds.

 

[My Left Foote]

Has turner retired yet

Ike has but Tina is still going strong.

 

[DesertRoo]

I admire the effort mate, just not sure if his football is good enough.

We gave Kayne Turner a spot cause he rocks up to training with a smile. Football is second to culture at the moment.

 

[Shermanator]

Can he play the small forward role?

Sorry mate missed this, yes he definitely can.

 

[Shermanator]

Ike has but Tina is still going strong.

Tina is going as strong as us at the moment

 

[roos_fanatic08]

l would rather we look at a KPF than defender.. outside of Larkey and CCJ we are a bit on the short side..Especially with Comben and Xerri injured..wouldnt mind looking at Jack Buller 199cm 99kg forward/ruck

I could be wrong but I’m not sure Buller has the mobility to be an AFL level Full forward. He isn’t a big clunking contested mark, but he is decent on the lead. Clubs have inquired about his GPS data which makes me question if he has the tank to play AFL straight off the bat.

Maric is the Newcombe of this year though really....

Whilst he's not had the full season in the VFL as a 20 year old like Newcombe at that point, he's been too good for the u/18 comp in most of his games, been dominant in some of the state trial games and then had 15 touches and 2.2 as a half forward in his only VFL game.

I think West Coast will pick him though, I doubt we pass if available.

I reckon he'd be playing games for us within 3-4 rounds.

I don’t mind Maric, but he plays too much like a 3rd tall/Zurhaar imo. Even though he is 193cm he isn’t a true key position player. Personally, I think Maric still has plenty to work on, and he wouldn’t play senior footy for us this season unless we had a multitude of injuries in the forward line. I do however, like that he has some flexibility in his game in the fact that he can play deep forward, high half forward or across half back. There is plenty of talent there, but he is still a work in progress.

 

[The Dingrel]

It might be me being naive here, but I think it’s just Lynch altruistically wanting what’s best for the player

for sure, and that's kind of my point, if we were picking him up there really isn't much point in making those comments.

 

[The Dingrel]

Fair. Unless that's what we want them to think. But then again, maybe we know that they will think that is what we want them to think, so that is why we want them to think that?

Is that what you really think?

 

[Lomas]

Is that what you really think?

I honestly don’t think much at all these days.

 

[The Dingrel]

Could be hype, knowing who were going to be picking, we’ll be bottom 2 when the mid season draft kicks off

Dunno, look like an idiot and a poor judge if he comes in and does nada.

 

[Mixed Results]

Is there any way to see yet which players have nominated 18-month contracts?

There's a very good chance that whoever we're taking will be on that list.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Robert Hansen Jnr would fit the bill as a goal kicking small forward, but from my understanding he has indicated that he would prefer to stay in WA due to his family support network.

 

[kool kangas]

I could be wrong but I’m not sure Buller has the mobility to be an AFL level Full forward. He isn’t a big clunking contested mark, but he is decent on the lead. Clubs have inquired about his GPS data which makes me question if he has the tank to play AFL straight off the bat.




I don’t mind Maric, but he plays too much like a 3rd tall/Zurhaar imo. Even though he is 193cm he isn’t a true key position player. Personally, I think Maric still has plenty to work on, and he wouldn’t play senior footy for us this season unless we had a multitude of injuries in the forward line. I do however, like that he has some flexibility in his game in the fact that he can play deep forward, high half forward or across half back. There is plenty of talent there, but he is still a work in progress.

l hope that we are of those clubs...

 

[linckinn]

Souup roos_fanatic08 what are your thoughts on Ethan Stanley. Could he possibly fill a wing need?

 

[Harris 10]

I still hope we take Teal as he has the most potential to be a long term player.

Come year end happy to rookie the two best state league players available or the two that give us depth in areas we are light on.

 

[Souup]

Souup roos_fanatic08 what are your thoughts on Ethan Stanley. Could he possibly fill a wing need?

I'll tell you what comes to mind immediately - he nailed one of the best kicks I've ever seen on a football field earlier this season against I reckon it was Geelong - I don't know if he meant it but it was a ridiculous inside 50m to a teammate running towards goal.

There's certainly something there to work with, but he's not finding it enough at VFL level at this stage for me. Only touching it 13 times a game and there's a lack of a stand-out trait at this stage. Admittedly, I haven't seen a ton of him, but they're my thoughts based on what I have seen.

 

[giantroo]

Braydon Ryan on sen today said, only the Hawks has spoken to him so far.