Rumour Multiple GWS players are set to be suspended to start the 2025 season after distasteful costumes and skits from their post-season function

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Lavender Bushranger said:
I'm not sure that's realistic in the AFL industry.

The AFL is an entertainment industry with an enormous amount of its product's viability depending on children and women being involved as participants and/or as consumers.

The AFL have to cater for the values and interests of its customers.

The AFL can't have a 'boys will be boys' type approach to this stuff these days if it means damaging their brand in any way. And with the demographic of their customers these days, they clearly believe it would.


FWIW though, to be clear, I doubt the AFL would give the slightest shit about any of this stuff - unless they believe it could or will become public and unless they don't think they can distance themselves from it.

A Mad Monday session being described as a 'private party' isn't going to cut it.
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Think of the children !!

Im sure they have been heavily scarred by something they didnt see.

Meanwhile they are bombarded with gambling ads with proven links to creating addiction later in life.
 
happy_eagle said:
Was Erin Brockovich woke ?
Kill Bill ?
Tomb Raider?
Charlies Angels?
Silence of the Lambs?
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Can you imagine if Aliens was made today? The amount of youtube videos with people making angry exaggerated faces in the thumbnail might just break the internet.
 

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FlowersByIrene said:
On the contrary, it is exactly the correct use of the term 'woke'. It is only the 'markets at work' because companies have been brainwashed by DEI Executives that they need a crystal clean image for whatever they are trying to do and that they need to appease to the Helen Lovejoy types despite zero evidence of this actually impacting the bottom line (and often, on the contrary, negatively impacting the bottom line).
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Aren't you contradicting yourself?

Executives trying to appease people is literally the markets at work.

Companies have always produced products and services that people want to buy. If they want more people to buy them - they change the product accordingly to appease them.

There's an entire Right Wing industry of Podcasters, YouTubers and mainstream media that do the exact same thing. They don't believe most of what they're saying, but they modify their content to appease their customers. Ever seen a left winger on Joe Rogan recently? No. He used to have quite a few on. But he's changed his product to appease his customers.

It's always been this way.

Fox News literally acknowledged in court that they were losing customers to other more extreme right wing media (like Newsmax) because they declared Arizona in the 2020 election. So they changed their product to appease their customers and started falsely resorting the 'election denial' stuff to try to get them back.
 
BringFevBack2021 said:
Unless it’s disparaging towards a recently deceased celebrity or pertains to something really controversial (Epstein, Diddy) then who cares
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Karen and Kevin who have to distract from their boring two pump thunderbirds are go sex lives that they have to stand outside the window looking in on a private event and getting offended.

That said, I'll hedge and say they could of done something real shit.
 
Lavender Bushranger said:
In amongst your hand wringng, you've missed the point entirely.

You're very naive and short sighted.
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No I got it. The AFL dont give a **** as long as they get money. They dont care about anything else. The bottom line is all that matters.

Which is interesting given they are a non profit organisation...
 

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Bostonian said:
No it wouldn't.
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Yeah I reckon it would have. The movie makes a real point of showing Ripley is more brave and more competent than the highly trained macho marines. It would have set the reactionaries off big-time.
 
happy_eagle said:
what exactly defines the three of these things as woke ?
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The female ghost busters was the obvious one that was purposely made to be DEI.

Now I can't comment on the Marvels as an original IP, but I believe that it was always a female IP but it follows part of the Star Wars issue.

For some reason, having strong women in movies now days means they can't seem to fail or be seen as having flaws. Doctor Who had the same issue. David Tennent is the loved Doctor because he was a flawed character that was haunted by his actions. The writers then turned Jodie Whittaker into an exposition device to explain plots and made her companions the main focus.

For Star Wars, look at Rey. She was a Mary Sue who just lucked into her powers in a way that was wild. The timeline of those three movies is about 1 year of in universe time. She goes from nothing to the most powerful in the universe in that time. For reference Anakin was powerful after about 20 odd years of age. This is only one card in the house of shit that was the sequal trilogy but it is the example of the idea of "going woke". The biggest problem for the sequels was the unrealistic build up of the threat but not understanding finances or common sense isn't exactly "woke".

I also don't understand why this idea started in media. Sarah Connor starts as a soft character in T1 but in T2 she is compelling and also very capable whilst being flawed. You can see that she wants nothing more than to stop Skynet that she has sacrificed everything and suffered. Same thing with Riply in Alien. For a more recent example Jessica Pearson in Suits is capable, competent and has flaws who does fail.
 
Lavender Bushranger said:
Who decides what's 'something real shit' though?

A mob of 50yo scared and angry old white guys - or a mob of rabid lefties?
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I think there are a few things that we as a society have said are universally "real shit". Running around in Nazi uniforms and doing salutes and stuff would be the easiest example that comes to mind.

Ignoring those extremes, it comes down to subjective opinion. Problem is that society seems to believe that entertainers who are paid to play a game are supposed to be the ones we all look up to so them doing anything is just multiplied.
 
SplintWhisky said:
Karen and Kevin who have to distract from their boring two pump thunderbirds are go sex lives that they have to stand outside the window looking in on a private event and getting offended.

That said, I'll hedge and say they could have done something real shit.
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I declare my bias as a left leaning political centrist, however I still don’t think there’s any story here unless it were egregiously and intentionally offensive

The AFL should report the event properly so the public can make their own decisions as to whether or not it is an issue
 
More details emerge on GWS' post-season function

It is understood that there was no illegal activity, but some of the skits performed by players and jokes told were highly inappropriate.
“There are still a lot of details coming to hand, I’m not going to try to oversell this and tell you that I know everything that went on a few weeks ago on ‘Wacky Wednesday’,” Morris aid on SEN Breakfast.
"It’s the belief of the Giants players that the story got out because the bartender at the pub made a complaint. They were in a private room.
“A couple of players did a skit from a movie, one player who is set to be fined quite significantly dressed up as Raygun. I can’t imagine that player being fined for dressing up as Raygun, but who knows what actions that player did.
“For Adelaide fans, Isaac Cumming and James Peatling won’t be suspended from the start of the season. They’re not facing suspensions.
“I understand there is going to be around six suspended players. One young player in particular, who is said to have made an ill-informed joke about P-Diddy, is set for the harshest suspension.
“The Giants found out about this a few weeks ago, some key players found out about it on prelim final weekend and in the last 48 hours the Giants have been shocked to learn that actual suspensions were on the cards.
“I’m told some of the players are pushing back on the suspensions, believing it’s a private room, nothing illegal occurred. The AFL and the Integrity Unit has had time to consider it, digest it and investigate it.
"Given that around six players are set to be suspended and fines of up to $20,000 are set to be handed out, you’d have to suggest there is more to this.
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BringFevBack2021 said:
I declare my bias as a left leaning political centrist, however I still don’t think there’s any story here unless it were egregiously and intentionally offensive

The AFL should report the event properly so the public can make their own decisions as to whether or not it is an issue
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Given the AFL is taking action they probably offended SportsBet.
 

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