Rumour Multiple GWS players are set to be suspended to start the 2025 season after distasteful costumes and skits from their post-season function

[T2B_]

Nah.

If anything, people's anger here should be directed at the AFL.

This public house had public figures do something they weren't happy with, they are allowed to speak up. We do not live in a censorship state. Why do you want to censor them? Seems a bit oppressive to me.

People are only getting upset because the suspensions seem to be heavy handed, so it's the AFL that should be the target. But mob justice always likes smaller fish I suppose. The AFL are pretty tough to target, I agree.

Not sure FBI was alluding to any want of censorship. Merely that if the venue does something people don't like, naturally they might pay the price of potential customers. That's the free market isn't it?

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Nah.

If anything, people's anger here should be directed at the AFL.

This public house had public figures do something they weren't happy with, they are allowed to speak up. We do not live in a censorship state. Why do you want to censor them? Seems a bit oppressive to me.

People are only getting upset because the suspensions seem to be heavy handed, so it's the AFL that should be the target. But mob justice always likes smaller fish I suppose. The AFL are pretty tough to target, I agree.

They can speak up - to the people they had an issue with. Go and speak with Toby Greene on the day. Why did they need to appeal to the censor state - sounds pretty fascist to me. Calling up the stazi to fight your battles for me "wah wah these people offended me". Who ever does that?

 

[Mudman85]

Looks like they have turned comments off.

Trip advisor

 

[Muddiemoose]

Venue copping it both barrels in their reviews. Zero sympathy.

So the people who hate all the “woke” crap and cancel culture are trying to cancel a business for doing something they don’t agree with?

Surely I’m not the only one who see’s the irony

 

[Sentinel]

So the people who hate all the “woke” crap and cancel culture are trying to cancel a business for doing something they don’t agree with?

Surely I’m not the only one who see’s the irony

How dare the venue hand down these player punishments.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

So the people who hate all the “woke” crap and cancel culture are trying to cancel a business for doing something they don’t agree with?

Surely I’m not the only one who see’s the irony

Difference is they actually did something worthy of criticism - dobbing.

 

[Tonythetiger]

So the people who hate all the “woke” crap and cancel culture are trying to cancel a business for doing something they don’t agree with?

Surely I’m not the only one who see’s the irony

Hit the nail on the head. It's only cancel culture when someone is saying something they don't agree with.

 

[Smart Fella]

I work as a physio in a clinic, so would be very out of place to hear that in a medical setting.

Don’t pay too much attention or care too much most of the time tbh. Joking about a terrorism attack on USA isn’t one I am fond of given my other half is American and over there you don’t joke about it. You may as well dress up as hamas and a headless baby while you’re at that line of joke, not much difference.

Just a no for me and entirely disgraceful. But that’s me and I feel most would probably agree

Doesn't that come down to 'too soon'?

Common sense says the individual needs to choose their audience wisely, which by the sounds of it, they tried to do.

Hypothetically, I wonder how an 'evil woman' themed night would have been responded to. Would the GWS AFLW captain be upset if Coniglio dressed as Leonarda Cianciulli carrying around a few bars of soap?

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[Mudman85]

So the people who hate all the “woke” crap and cancel culture are trying to cancel a business for doing something they don’t agree with?

Surely I’m not the only one who see’s the irony

So you don't like the taste of own medicine.... what a shock.

 

[Muddiemoose]

Difference is they actually did something worthy of criticism - dobbing.

Isn’t people leaning the venue’s details dobbing that hadn’t been reported?

 

[kickazz]

They can speak up - to the people they had an issue with. Why did they need to appeal to the censor state - sounds pretty fascist to me. Calling up the stazi to fight your battles for me "wah wah these people offended me". Who ever does that?

They can tell anyone they like. I agree that the bolded is usually the best first approach, but it's not for us to say they cannot tell the AFL or go public with it.

 

[kickazz]

Difference is they actually did something worthy of criticism - dobbing.

Are you in grade 2 or something?

 

[Muddiemoose]

So you don't like the taste of own medicine.... what a shock.

Me?
Na I couldn’t give a toss either way
I just find it funny the mental gymnastics people use to be upset at something but go on to do the thing they claim to be upset about

It’s the players fault for being dumb campaigners when they know as afl players they cop scrutiny for this kind of shit and have signed contracts surrounding this kind of behaviour

 

[Byron_Clanger]

I'm still trying to make sense of what part of sexual assault do the GWS players consider 'whacky'

 

[TheEscapeClub]

You were a military man?? My respect goes out to you bro if that’s what you meant

I was, Navy, best job I ever had.

 

[Bostonian]

Me?
Na I couldn’t give a toss either way
I just find it funny the mental gymnastics people use to be upset at something but go on to do the thing they claim to be upset about

It’s the players fault for being dumb campaigners when they know as afl players they cop scrutiny for this kind of shit and have signed contracts surrounding this kind of behaviour

It's their fault for doing nothing wrong?

That's a new one.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Hit the nail on the head. It's only cancel culture when someone is saying something they don't agree with.

Well you are correct, that is the whole point about the "woke".

The argument from the woke is - these are our new standards and if you don't agree with them you should be cancelled.

The argument from normal people is - those aren't our standards, thats some crazy shit that you people believe, our standards are still this, basic principles of morality, ethics, being a good person and helping your neighbour.

The argument is not - there are no standards, it's we have different standards and your woke standards go to far. So of course it's not ironic to cancel something for something that everyone agrees is not a standard we in a Western society hold ourselves to - dobbing on your fellow man rather than addressing the issue personally.

 

[Underarm]

Difference is they actually did something worthy of criticism - dobbing.

are we once again suggesting reenacting rape isn't worthy of criticism?

 

[_Cerberus_]

They bring something into the public that was private they deserve a public response.

Hopefully they learn their lesson to deal with things personally rather than publicly.

Too many people appeal to authority - government give me this handout, social media lynch this person for me, AFL punish these naughty boys. Such people deserve the true democratic force of the public responding to them.

So you're okay with mob rule towards a venue and it's entire staff, for the actions of one individual?

Sounds like middle ages s**t. Kill everyone for the actions of one.

Who is to say the owners of the venue even had any involvement in it? For all we know it was just a casual employee who went rogue.

But sure, keep acting like a pack of wolves after blood.

 

[Bagger72]

Personal freedom of expression, free speech and freedom in general without a crime being committed is being taken away piece by piece as thats what govts likes to do - control.

Next step is facial recognition to access the internet and monitoring your thoughts.

Have to challenge every form of authority - because if you don't future generations could live in dire situations.

 

[Frank Bunn]

I'm still trying to make sense of what part of sexual assault do the GWS players consider 'whacky'

Which sexual assault are you talking about?

 

[kickazz]

are we once again suggesting reenacting rape isn't worthy of criticism?

but if no one dobbed it didn't happen.... right?

 

[Muddiemoose]

It's their fault for doing nothing wrong?

That's a new one.

Trivialising rape is a line I don’t think should be crossed personally but that’s just me

 

[FlowersByIrene]

are we once again suggesting reenacting rape isn't worthy of criticism?

Criticism =/= Reporting. No one is saying the venue shouldn't have told the GWS players to pull their head in or leave if they had an issue with it. The issue is waiting till after the players had left and instead of addressing the issue personally, reporting the issue to the AFL knowing that the individuals concerned will have no natural justice, opportunity to respond or apologise.

 

[kickazz]

Trivialising rape is a line I don’t think should be crossed personally but that’s just me

Yeah and that's the thing, let's say it's true that the only one to complain was the person who saw it later on CCTV. Perhaps they are a victim of sexual assault.

We all love freedom. Freedom of expression, freedom of association, all that stuff is really good and important.

At the same time, how hard is it, seriously, to just.....


Don't be a dick.