Autopsy NAB 3: Richmond vs North Melbourne @ Etihad Stadium - Saturday 1:10pm, 21 March

[Stylo]

Two players that concern me greatly and have done for a while - Vickery and Conca.
Both high draft picks and both are the most unnatural of footballers.
Both were very poor today, again.

Agree on Vickery but Conca was alright I thought.

 

[Cotcho]

Two players that concern me greatly and have done for a while - Vickery and Conca.
Both high draft picks and both are the most unnatural of footballers.
Both were very poor today, again.

Yes!!

 

[tugga]

Agree on Vickery but Conca was alright I thought.

I didn't mind Conca's game against Port. But I thought he was terrible today. All good man. I hope he rips it up this season. he is a good clearance player.

 

[Roachy8]

Two players that concern me greatly and have done for a while - Vickery and Conca.
Both high draft picks and both are the most unnatural of footballers.
Both were very poor today, again.

Can't disagree with this.
The way I see it, when/if they are not in the side we really do not miss them much if at all.
For top 10 picks that is damning...

 

[richcogs]

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-03-21/preseason-round-3-hardwick-postmatch

Look at him jump on the front foot of Vickery. Just so he wasn't on the defensive. He would of know Ty's stats. 'I think Griff kicked 1.4 today. Vickery about the same".....absolute bulldust he new Vickery only got a point.

 

[tugga]

Can't disagree with this.
The way I see it, when/if they are not in the side we really do not miss them much if at all.
For top 10 picks that is damning...

That is a perfect way to describe it. I have been searching for it ages and you just nailed it. When either of these guys don't play, we don't miss them one bit.

 

[sregit]

I have supported Vickery, however, his lack of competitiveness is starting to piss me off big time. Can I ask who were the dummies that gave him a vote on the poll? This Guy was absolutely crap.

 

[Brad_12345]

Can't disagree with this.
The way I see it, when/if they are not in the side we really do not miss them much if at all.
For top 10 picks that is damning...

This

 

[CHIMP MAGNET]

Tough night at selection? Lmao they sit around eating KFC and put in a team sheet from 2009 while cheering on mark willo Williams and Greg mellor's stretch off

 

[Stylo]

That is a perfect way to describe it. I have been searching for it ages and you just nailed it. When either of these guys don't play, we don't miss them one bit.

Yep it's a fair point. You could swap them for McBean and Miles, a mid-second rounder and a rookie, and probably get improved output.

 

[Darth_Tiger]

Can't really defend Vickery on today's performance. Won't be surprised to see him miss round 1 now.

 

[tugga]

Yep it's a fair point. You could swap them for McBean and Miles, a mid-second rounder and a rookie, and probably get improved output.

For picks 6 and 8, it's not good.
But still, we have done well fromt he picks 13-24 mark.

 

[Groupie_]

Dimma just said Knights is available to play. He's a lock for me for the Carltoon game

Makes us so much better with his touch of class

 

[Groupie_]

Can't really defend Vickery on today's performance. Won't be surprised to see him miss round 1 now.

Usually kicks 3 goals vs the Blooze. Will play

 

[Cotcho]

Went to the game today and had a ripper level 2 view. Some points:

• Decision making. We are still so so far off Hawthorn, Sydney, Freo and Geelong in terms of this aspect of the game. We beat North in most areas of the game today but this is what allowed them to get on top. It's frightening how many times we do a silly handball into trouble, don't use the corridor or quick break when we should....and then use it when we shouldn't. We look like we are trying to force quick play, which is great and necessary but it is frustrating that it seems so unnatural with our boys.
• Tackling. I don't care about number of tackles....because it's rarely representative of how well you are doing in this area but we had faarrr too many "missed tackles" today. Way too many. It's an area that kills you because this creates overlap all the way down the field if someone misses that initial tackle.
• Slow start. Can be forgiven during the NAB. Hopefully this isn't an issue round 1.
• Vickery and Jack. Jack is a freak, and his lack of pace isn't an issue given his cleverness and offensive output. Vickery however is just simply too slow. The combination of the two is a killer. The ball is rebounding from this area too quickly.
• Rocketing handballs. This is a pet hate of mine, both from playing and watching football. Rarely is it necessary to hammer the ball at someone who is running beside you within a few metres or standing as a sweeper behind the pack etc. Not sure what causes this, whether it is panic or a lack of judgment...whatever....either way....this caused about 5 or 6 spillages and turnovers today unnecessarily.
• 2 way running. Still not good enough but forgiven until we witness season proper.

 

[Darth_Tiger]

Usually kicks 3 goals vs the Blooze. Will play

I hope you are right. Will back them whatever they decide is best. I can see pros and cons either way.

 

[Tas]

Fair points man. But I am continually disappointed with his output considering he was a No 6 pick. I know the order in which you are picked becomes irrelevant, but I can't get past it.

He was a bargain at pick 6 too, club was very happy he was still around. I think he will be a good footballer, but I agree his output at times is not as high as it should be, it just always seems he has a lot in reserve between what he delivers and what he is capable of.

 

[Cotcho]

Griff not unloading from 65 and passing to Morris!! Worst of all time!!

 

[telsor]

A solid workout, no injuries (for us, fingers crossed for Ziebell) and some definite areas we can/should improve on between now and round 1.

I'm happy enough with that.

 

[tugga]

Went to the game today and had a ripper level 2 view. Some points:

• Slow start. Can be forgiven during the NAB. Hopefully this isn't an issue round 1.

This is usually not a problem in round 1. It's the slow finish.

 

[CHIMP MAGNET]

Dimma has no idea how to play three talls so will be wrapt with Vickery today

 

[tora tora tora]

Haven't seen the game yet so can't comment much but it looks like twice in the game we allowed the opposition to get runs of (4) goals. This was a worry last year. Hope we can fix this area of our game come season proper

 

[BC9_]

Too much height down back for a night game IMO.
One of Grimes, Chappy, Rance or Astbury sits out IMO.

Rance, yep take out Rance.

 

[Balanced]

Next time we meet North Morris has to go back and play on Harvey or Thomas. Different story against Carlton where he is the man to sit on Yarran.

In the battle for the tall forward/2nd Ruck spot Griffiths has pulled away form Vickery. Vickery needs to go back and find form in the VFL.

I think Lloyd has to play, he has not put a foot wrong in the limited time he has got in the last 2 games

We have too many talls in defence when our all Australian full back is playing on Lindsay Thomas. Houli needs more help picking up the crumbs in defence, I thought Vlaustin was poor today but he is too good to leave out round 1. One of Astbury, Grimes, Chaplin or Batchelor probably has to miss out or be able to swing forward to fill Vickery's spot at times during the game. Chaplin or Astbury are the two I would try

 

[Tiger_man322]

Been saying it since day 1.... Vickery is nothing more than a spud.

Watch him get picked Round 1 though.