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It started under Morrison champ - facts matter. Sadly for conservatives it will be under control before the next election.
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Lol at the projected figures.
Where did you drag them from ?
You all so conveniently blame Morrison yet when it increases and maintains a high rate under Albanese its “the global economy.
You guys are a crack up
It wont be under control by the next election. To do that housing loans rates will have to go much higher. That will cause too much pain for home owners.
what is upper class welfare?
inheritance isnt taxed. But thats not really welfare and this is common across most countries.
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Only “upper class welfare” I can think of is childcare and Labor increased the income threshold to $530k last budget.
It was old mate Albo that increased the threshold here. Again - a bit rough calling out upper class welfare without it being attributed to Chalmers last budget.
You have to earn in excess of $530k to lose the childcare subsidy which was introduced by Albanese.
“Increase child care subsidy rates for every family with one child in care earning less than $530,000 in household income;”
Grim Jim rips $1500 of LMTIO out if low income earners and sends it straight to people on half a mill!
Cheaper Child Care
Labor will make child care cheaper for Australian families.
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Personally I think once your daily income exceeds the daily cost there should be no subsidy.
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Personally I think childcare should be free.
It's a massive benefit to the country having educated parents back in the workforce, but it's a benefit that should apply to all.
This is from the ABS:
I don't think any government, regardless of party, can be credited for doing the hard work to tame inflation since Hawke/Keating. I know what reforms they made to the economy to reduce inflation, not sure what Howard did in this regard.
This is a No True Scotsman fallacy. It feels like you're suggesting conservatism is some sort of pure, noble ideology that has been perverted in the last 40 years. I'd counter that it isn't, it's an ever-changing political tradition that is led by the direction of the major conservative political party of the day, as well as conservative media. The Liberal Party and the Murdoch media ARE conservatism in Australia. And thanks to them, conservatism itself has become nastier, more self-centred and less empathetic than in Fraser's day.
Or has it? I wasn't alive during Fraser's term in office, but I wonder if conservatism was just as nasty back then. Certainly racism, sexism and homophobia were much more openly expressed back then. Maybe Fraser was simply keeping a lid on it. There's no Fraser now to check the worst impulses of conservatives though.
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I’m not disputing actual figures
- more the projected.
While Whitlam was in opposition he vowed to kick out all the boat people. Fraser who was Minister of the Army spent a lot of time in South Vietnam during the war and was far more sympathetic to these people.
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Spent 11 years taking credit for someone else work.
You guys must be thrilled with the budget surplus - first one for over 15 years.
"Good work Albo"
Surprised, but isn't the Budget returning to deficit for the next couple of years.
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Where’d you dredge that graphic up from ?
And how much is the surplus?
Budget surplus thanks to ripping out LMITO and the underestimation on the last Lib budget by $60 billion in 2020 re jobkeeper payments - payments Albanese wanted extended IIRC .
Watch this next budget blow out to buggery now Labor are in charge and not piggy backing off Lib good economic policy.
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It certainly is.
Watch it go sky high now Labor have a taste for spending.
AS Margaret Thatcher once said. " In order for the Government to give you something you have to lose something in return."
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I also like
“The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people’s money”.
I take it the 11 years was the reforms of the Hawke Keating governments , Those reforms were base on recommendations from the Campbell Inquiry. An inquiry that was set up by John Howard. Howard and Peacock supported the reforms.
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And the problem with liberalism is that you eventually run out of a mining boom and assets to sell off.
Pissing away the mining boom is one achievement and a half
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Could’ve argued 2014 Abbott budget was fiscally conservative- verging on harsh - to bring the economy back from the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd fiasco
“Treasury has forecast an A$29.8 billion ($27.6 billion) deficit for the 12 months through till June 2015. This is down from A$49.9 billion deficit this fiscal year, with estimates showing the country on track for a surplus of, “Well over 1% of GDP,” by 2024-2025.
But while the need for strict fiscal management was understood by the public it is the fairness of the budget that has angered many voters, with 63 percent of poll respondents this week saying that the budget cuts did not affect all Australians fairly.”
Popularity of Australian PM Slumps Following Tough Budget
Tony Abbott takes a gamble with harsh measures as he tries to lower the budget deficit.
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Wonderful. That says absolutely nothing about conservatism unless you're claiming Fraser was a conservative. And if so, it's clear that absolutely no conservatives following him continued with his stance on asylum seekers.
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Yes
This nation called norway used its natural resources to benefit their nation, we pissed the mining boom away (not to mention natural gas )
Thatcher was a sociopath who supported the Apartheid regime. Why should we listen to her on anything?
