National Draft 23 - after this year we all need therapy

What type of players should we draft

  • Breakneck Speed .... got to win the Grand Final Sprint

  • Just Tasmanians, because no-one goes back once they leave

  • Mature Age ... look at Lambo, Broad, Baker, Young

  • Key Forward

  • High Marking Forward

  • Small Forward

  • Best Midfielder

  • All left footers

  • Half Back Flank

  • Half Back Flank

  • Half Back Flank

  • Another Ruckman

  • George Castagna

  • Best available, yep I knew you'd choose this one ya tool

  • A hard hitter like Sonsie


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Schulz is the perfect player for us. I’m shattered by how Collingwood act and have their shit together. Bloody hell.

By the way, we’re we even at Marvel today? I saw interviews with all clubs but not us? Is that correct?
 

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Schulz is the perfect player for us. I’m shattered by how Collingwood act and have their s**t together. Bloody hell.

By the way, we’re we even at Marvel today? I saw interviews with all clubs but not us? Is that correct?
We were. Hawks list boss said he'd had a meeting with us.

For some reason we don't tend to do interviews for this sort of stuff.
 
My son ran the 20m in 2.82 seconds 4 days after recovering from covid, spending a week in doors and the week before partying in Melb. Netballer not footballer, (Australian men's side U23's). Seriously quick. You are allowed to brag after 15 years on here aren't you.
Sure .... though it wasn't too long ago since no man would be bragging his son was a netballer ... good on him .... always loved playing mixed myself
 
Sure .... though it wasn't too long ago since no man would be bragging his son was a netballer ... good on him .... always loved playing mixed myself
Follow netball closely … cringe when I hear things like ‘football is turning into netball’. They let the netballers go pretty hard these days. Plenty of physicality!
Mate of mine is the Victorian men’s team!
 
Incredible left foot. Would love to see his combine results. Looks like he moves more like Nankervis than Bontempelli. Absolutely gets his ankle broken at 3.20 in the below highlights



Stops dead after disposing of the ball either by hand or foot, no run whatsoever.

If he was 198 or 200cm he would be a ruckman but he isn't so really don't think he has a position at AFL level. Solid pass for mine.

Question marks of attitude
 
Cal Twomey said Lance Collard could push into the top 15-20 after his combine testing and interviews, Charlie edwards also has interest in the early second round
 

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Schulz is the perfect player for us. I’m shattered by how Collingwood act and have their s**t together. Bloody hell.

By the way, we’re we even at Marvel today? I saw interviews with all clubs but not us? Is that correct?
Why would we even bother. After compensation, priority picks, academy and father sons our first pick might as well be the 50th best player. At that point why even bother putting in lots of work.
 
Herald Suns top 40 AFL draft rankings


Here are some players around our first pick

40. JACK DELEAN

South Adelaide/SA, Forward, 182cm, 77kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
Chris Cavanagh’s Ranking – 38: A lively goalkicking forward with plenty of tricks, his best this year was great but he also went missing at times which frustrated some. That said, he kicked five goals across three senior SANFL matches in the back end of the year after booting nine majors from four matches for his state at the national championships.
Dan Batten’s Ranking — Didn’t quite make the cut for me. Certainly has some exciting traits as a small forward but there are question marks over his workrate and consistency.

39. CLAY HALL

Peel Thunder/WA, Midfielder, 189cm, 87kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 40: A professional one and off the field who brings great work ethic and ticks a lot of boxes. The son of former West Coast and Geelong forward Derek, it wouldn’t surprise if the midfielder was snapped up in the second round.
DB – 35: The All-Australian won possessions at will on the inside at the national championships and showed good signs at WAFL level. A great size but his kicking and decision making lets him down at times.

38. CAIDEN CLEARY

Sydney Swans Academy/NSW-ACT, Midfielder, 182cm, 79kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 33: While his disposal might not always be perfect, he plays with plenty of heart and had an eye-catching national championships for the Allies as a midfield bull. Also showed plenty in a couple of VFL games for the Swans.
DB – 40: Sneaks into my top 40. A tough as nails two-way midfielder who tackles like his life depends on it. Performed strongly for the AFL Academy earlier in the year but another midfielder who lacks polish.

37. KOEN SANCHEZ

East Fremantle/WA, Forward/Midfielder, 177cm, 69kg
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 35: A speedy half-forward or wingman who had an eye-catching national championships for WA. Brings great speed and energy, has clean hands and looks ready to go at the next level across half-forward.
DB – 37: See some similarities to Giant Brent Daniels here. A buzzing small forward who is clean below his knees and can win his own footy up the ground.

36. ANGUS HASTIE

Geelong Falcons/VIC, Defender, 190cm, 74kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – Unranked: Definitely around the mark to be a potential second-round pick. Had a solid year down back for the Falcons and with Vic Country in the national championships.
DB – 28: Hastie takes the game on with his dashing run and is also extremely versatile as a defender – doing jobs on top 10 talent Nate Caddy (193cm) and smalls like Rebels forward Lachie Charleson (176cm) this year. That mix is made for the modern game.

35. ZANE ZAKOSTELSKY

Claremont/WA, Defender/Ruck, 196cm, 89kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 36: Didn’t do his chances of being a second-round pick any harm at the draft combine with some great results. An athletic key defender who also looked good in the ruck in the final rounds of the season and was best-on-ground in the WAFL Colts grand final with 22 disposals and 18 hit-outs.
DB – 30: ‘ZZ Top’, as some of his friends call him, is raw given has only been playing footy for a few years. But with his exciting athletic make-up, his upside is enormous. Won the best-on-ground medal in the Colts grand final where he won a whopping 18 contested possessions as a ruckman and showed off his intercepting as a key defender for WA.

34. JOEL FREIJAH

GWV Rebels/VIC, Wing, 190cm, 88kg
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 26: There are some knocks on his willingness to go after the hard ball, but the wingman runs elite patterns, is a good size, kicks the ball well and is generally clean and composed. He can also push forward and kick a goal.
DB – 38: Freijah works tirelessly up and down the wing and the stats might not always reflect his influence. Burst onto the radar with six goals from 26 disposals and 10 marks early in the year, but his contested game will need to improve at the next level

33. ASHTON MOIR

Glenelg/SA, Forward, 187cm, 85kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 30: There is not a lot of evidence from this year as to why Moir should be picked up – especially this high. However, clubs will find it hard to ignore the talent from this silky forward who can kick on both feet.
DB – 31: Moir appeared destined to be a top-five pick at the start of the year but has slid significantly after an underwhelming top-age year where his competitiveness has been questioned. But there is no doubting his freakish talent, being able to kick 50m on both sides of his body. Could prove to be a massive steal and a club could do worse than to take a punt on him.

32. LOGAN MORRIS

Western Jets/VIC, Forward, 191cm, 90kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 28: Hard to forget his 16-disposal, 11-mark and 4-goal game against Western Australia at the national championships. A strong-marking mid-sized forward in the Tim Membrey mould who is generally an accurate shot on goal.
DB – 32: Just kept getting the job done for the struggling Western Jets with 30 goals for the season, with seven hauls of three or more in his 10 games. Kicked two on VFL debut for Werribee and his eye-catching four goal haul at the national champs put his vice-like hands on full display.


31. COOPER SIMPSON

Dandenong Stingrays/VIC, Midfielder/Forward, 182cm
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 32: Unfortunately missed a chunk of the season including the national championships through injury, but is a professional midfielder with pace, composure and nice finishing skills and had a strong finish to the season at Dandenong.
DB – 26: A forgotten man after an injury sidelined him for most of the back-end of the year, but his 2 goals and 20 disposals in his final game of the season was a stern reminder of his class and forward-half impact. Elusive in traffic and debuted at VFL level this season.

30. LUAMON LUAL

GWV Rebels/VIC, Defender, 181cm, 79kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 38: An athletic smaller defender who is very good one-on-one and has the speed and agility to go with some of the best small forwards around. Can also bring some run and bounce off halfback and his character and leadership is highly rated.
DB – 21: Have him higher than some might. Big fan of his defensive game as a stopper and his superb composure and decision making allows him to impact the game offensively. Also an outstanding character who has done it all while commuting from Warnambool

29. LANCE COLLARD

Subiaco/WA/West Coast NGA, Forward, 180cm, 65kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 34: Tied to West Coast’s Next Generation Academy, but another player who is not looking like getting past pick 40 anymore. Had a strong finish to the season, in the forward half for Subiaco’s Colts, including kicking 10 goals across two finals.
DB – 24: Collard has freakish ability as a small forward, with his purple patch to finish the season featuring a litany of dazzling goals: selling candy, snaps from the boundary, the lot. The Eagles academy talent would be a steal for the Eagles if he slips past pick 40.

28. WILL GREEN

Northern Knights/VIC, Ruck, 204cm, 93kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 22: A former junior cricket star who has quickly risen within since joining the AFL pathway programs in 2021. Co-captained the Knights this year and could be anything given his quality tap-work, size and sound fundamentals.
DB – 36: Got better as the year went on and clearly has plenty of athleticism for a player his size. Will take time as he strengthens his body.

27. MITCHELL EDWARDS

Peel Thunder/WA, Ruck, 206cm, 89kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 24: A huge ruckman who has impressive craft, is a competitor, a strong overhead mark and is quite mobile for his size. Still has to put some weight on his frame, but is an exciting prospect from the west.
DB – 33: Would have liked to see more at national level from Edwards, but he is probably the next ruckman in the pool behind Ethan Read.

26. CHARLIE EDWARDS

Sandringham Dragons/VIC, Midfielder, 191cm, 85kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 27: Has been another big bolter in the back half of the year. Started the season at halfback for Sandringham Dragons but went into the midfield in the second half of the year and starred. Is a real leg-driver and drives the ball forward by foot.
DB – 29: Shot up draft boards to finish the year after moving into the midfield for the Sandringham Dragons. His speed from congestion and height gives him serious potential in a draft class lacking midfield depth, and he can also play off halfback.

25. ARCHER REID

Gippsland Power/VIC, Forward/ruck, 203cm, 94kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 21: His older brother Zach is a key forward at Essendon, but Archer plays at the other end. His weapon is his marking ability up forward, but he also developed his ruck craft nicely in the back end of the year with Gippsland.
DB – 34: A tough one to place. Is strong overhead and showed he can perform strongly as a forward and a second ruckman, but was a touch inconsistent throughout the year.

24. GEORGE STEVENS

GWV Rebels/VIC, Midfielder, 189cm, 101kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 31: An intriguing prospect. I’m a big fan – as some clubs are – but others say he is too slow. He was arguably Geelong’s best player in one of his VFL games for the Cats this year though, is tough, clean and a decent kick. As ready-made a prospect as you will find.
DB – 23: One of the most polarising players in the draft class. Has worked tirelessly to address concerns over his speed and his high-end performances can’t be ignored in my view, averaging 28.8 disposals and 160 SuperCoach ranking points per game for the Rebels. Showed he can play as contested ball-winner or off halfback with his kicking skills, and can impact from the get-go with his ready-made frame.

23. TEW JIATH

Gippsland Power/VIC/Hawthorn NGA, Defender, 188cm, 72kg
Stats and full bio:
2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 29: The younger brother of Hawthorn’s Changkuoth Jiath was a big bolter in the second half of the season. He’s tied to Hawthorn’s Next Generation Academy, but it’s hard to see the Hawks landing him through that avenue now given the athletic defender looks certain to be a top-40 pick.
DB – 25: Ahead of his brother, Changkuoth, at the same age – and we saw how steep his development was from the point he was drafted. A serious bolter after eye-catching finish to the season where his intercepting, turn of step and composure shone through. Would be a surprise to see the Hawks nab him outside the 40.
 
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Who I like in no particular order for our first pick

Arie Schoenmaker
George Stevens
Archer Reid
Koltyn Tholstrup
Lance Collard
Charlie Edwards
George Stevens
Jack Delean
Ashton Moir
Joel Freijah

They all fill a need either through the midfield or up forward where I believe our biggest issues are.
 
Wouldn't mind that Collard kid, might light it up with Campbell, Coulthard and and Mozza at the feet of Tommy and Koz and Bauer. Throw in Shai, Cumbo and the GOAT playing through the forward half its a pretty delicious prospect..

That would terrorise oppo defenders when the ball hits the deck.
 
Small Forward Slider

Having been ranked as Number 2 earlier in the year Ashton Moir has slid and kept sliding in rankings, especially when he struggled to hit the scoreboard at Nationals, could be available for the Tigers to evaluate whether he can find the Magic at AFL level



Ashton Moir
Glenelg/South Australia
FWD, 188cm, 84kg
Moir has slid simply due to his lack of consistency to date. He hasn't impacted at AFL Academy level, and struggled to have any meaningful influence against the Allies with one soccered goal and another 'almost' performance. His talent is unquestionable - no prospect can stop on a dime, kick on both feet and pick out the goals from anywhere inside 50 like the mercurial forward. It's just a case of putting it all together for Moir.

Plays like: Jack Lukosius
Source ESPN


"small forward"
"188cm"
"plays like Jack Lukosius"

I'm getting very mixed messages here.
 

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