Rumour Neale-y premiership time! (was: Neale before the Lions!)

[Nuggo]

McStay was always willing to hit the pack. Hit and miss if he stuck the mark, probably more miss than hit.

 

[Ceebee]

They have made themselves look bad. No sympathy from me given they went behind the club's back by talking to an opposition coach. The club has staff that aim to help the welfare of their players and partner, and they didn't go to them once. Neale also could have spoken to Fagan anytime during the year and expressed his thoughts about moving back to Perth. I believe they are doing this simply because of money, and the fact that Neale didn't even bother once with west coast (who conveniently have a tight cap) only speaks further to that. Covid was also a much greater problem last year, yet Neale didn't once think about proposing a trade, which again is convenient because last year his contract was still front ended. Stop defending a player who has shown no respect to the club. He did this to Fremantle, and he's doing it to us. There's a clear pattern here and Neale should have been much better about this. He had every chance too, but chose not .

Such a sensitive soul and so knowledgeable too .
I will keep my opinion thank you as you can keep yours .

 

[Doc Hattori]

He won’t be leaving WA. Haven’t you heard: the Meek shall inherit the Perth.

He lived up to his name from what I saw

 

[martinson]

It's going to be funny if Lachie signs a new 3 year deal with a one year extension on his current one with us.

Stranger things have happened.

 

[martinson]

Reading what Lachie's Dad said , and there's absolutely no reason to disbelieve it , maybe Jules was having a bit of a hard time and Lachie's management just put the feelers out to see if there was any interest , ascertaining if there were any other options. And someone got wind of it.

If that's the case Freo would be thinking if we can get him for not a lot why wouldn't you. And we're just waiting to see if he's serious about wanting to go.

On balance that's probably the likelihood of where it sits. If it's genuinely an issue of Jules struggling through the season none of this would be helping at all.

 

[jackess]

Surely it should be pretty simple

Daly: Hey Belly you interested in offering a top 10 pick for Neale?
Scenario 1
Bell: Yes
Neale: I love youse all [then requests a trade]
Scenario 2
Bell: No
Neale: I love youse all [and announces he won't be seeking a trade]

 

[M Malice]

Lachie's family is from Adelaide and a lot shorter flight time from there to Perth for Jules to spend time with her family- Pick 4 and 23 from the Crows would get the deal done.

 

[Sproj]

The paparazzi is following him around Brisbane, really? Let’s be honest, the media in Brisbane don’t really care about AFL and the media in Victoria that does, they can’t get out from Melbourne. The media in WA are no doubt mostly covering the finals.

 

[Gadzorks]

After raising kids with no help I can fully understand that reasoning for wanting to go back to be around family. But at the moment the reason is not the issue more that we weren't involved in the initial discussions. Whether that is Neale or his management fault I don't know. You just feel that if he stays it won't be the same and if he goes it definitely won't be the same. As for the match not being lit yet, I am not so sure of that now.

If Fagan had come out after this broke and said it's been tough for the wives of players, Lachie has some concerns about having their first child away from their suoport base that we are aware of. No request for a trade had been made to either club. The post reveal media hunt and fan support would have been vastly different.

It is what is because Lachie didn't buy into the family first, Fagan as a supporter of the whole person and their family culture of the club and simply have a discussion. I 100% believe Fagan would have dealt with it well, and we would have followed his mature, considered lead.

Lachie is a great footballer, which doesn't exclude being a dumb at other things, however the consequences of him being outed this way are easy enough for even the dumbest to understand.

He made a mistake, unfortunately his mistakes have consequences that impact more than just him. It's horrible for them, but media and fan interest isn't going to die down until the trade situation is finalized.

 

[Gadzorks]

what discussions???

Surely if there were no discussions we would have had there has been no discussed it at all statement. That's different to I haven't requested a trade statement.

 

[Gadzorks]

McStay is no world beater. He is a solid best 22 player though. The difference between McStay and Fullarton I think is that McStay always looked like he had the tools to be a good forward he just never put it together. Fullarton has just not looked like he has any skill that will translate into him being effective at AFL level. Even at the level below he is not a major threat. He cannot get separation and is a poor mark. He is not a pack crashing option nor will he run an opponent into the ground. I am just not seeing what he has that will allow him to become an effective forward in the AFL.

McStay is a contest beater, slightly different to world beater individually, but he can make our team a other-team-beater when he plays.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

The paparazzi is following him around Brisbane, really? Let’s be honest, the media in Brisbane don’t really care about AFL and the media in Victoria that does, they can’t get out from Melbourne. The media in WA are no doubt mostly covering the finals.

Do you know what a stringer is? Besides the Jake variety, that is. There's plenty of people with a camera about who haven't had much work over the past 18 months.

 

[Van_Dyke]

Surely it should be pretty simple

Daly: Hey Belly you interested in offering a top 10 pick for Neale?
Scenario 1
Bell: Yes
Neale: I love youse all [then requests a trade]
Scenario 2
Bell: No
Neale: I love youse all [and announces he won't be seeking a trade]

sorry for the intrusion, but completely agree. both clubs will have the price they're willing to pay/sell for neale, and if they don't overlap then the whole situation should be over

 

[Back2Back2Back]

Reading what Lachie's Dad said , and there's absolutely no reason to disbelieve it , maybe Jules was having a bit of a hard time and Lachie's management just put the feelers out to see if there was any interest , ascertaining if there were any other options. And someone got wind of it.

If that's the case Freo would be thinking if we can get him for not a lot why wouldn't you. And we're just waiting to see if he's serious about wanting to go.

On balance that's probably the likelihood of where it sits. If it's genuinely an issue of Jules struggling through the season none of this would be helping at all.

While I'm not trying to grasp at anything in denial, the fact the club has stated he has not requested a trade and just wants to weigh up options kind of does sound like it was an internal discussion that was leaked somewhere. So they spoke to Freo - could've even just been to see if he would have any relevance in their team anymore to consider entertaining the move.

The amount of media focus this is getting is just atrocious though. All these so called experts offering their hard nose opinions about what he should or shouldn't do with next to no additional information on the situation - no wonder so many players are citing mental health for breaks these days.

 

[notliondown]

At best there's a level of naivety at play even if this was "an in house discussion" at the Neale household as his dad puts it. The minute you talk to managers who talk to other clubs your intentions are known. At worst it's clever manipulation.

I won't pretend to know Lachie or Jules. I don't, nor do I know their morals or attitude towards greed and fame or family and friends, loyalty or selfishness. But I am struggling with pattern and precedent. And I'm struggling with his dad suggesting they need to get away from an AFL bubble as much as they want family support.

Lachie's public position on why he wanted to come to Brisbane never really made sense to me. It definitely doesn't now. It was suggested to me at the time he wanted out from Fyfe's shadow and I thought it was wrong. Now I'm not so sure. Lachie has become a highly credentialed player with plaudits and accolades he may never have received at Freo. He is an incredibly powerful position as one the best players in the competition. Few players hold the credibility he currently has.

For me, he has to go now. By design or by accident, the damage is done now.

This is the first real test of our culture under Fages. Until now it's been one way traffic. Brisbane was a destination club. This is a player wanting to leave - regardless of reasons. This raises doubts as to the need to stay the course. To hold fast when things become tough. If Lachie can go why can't I? I'm not suggesting it's dire - in fact I think if we play our cards right this present's opportunity. But the handling of the issue by the club and playing group will be telling.

Lachie was brilliant for us. He gave us credibility. He was evidence we were heading in the right direction and he was a symbol of where we were going. We got our money's worth - we lost no-one while paying him. And he will leave us in at a time when we are better able to cope than we have been in a decade. I actually don't hold any resentment towards him at all (apart from his handling of this).

The team appeared to need to rejig. And while it would have been great for him to be a part of it it's not the end of the world if he's not. We will have a handful of decent picks and maybe some cap space depending on who we might trade. All of those are good things. Our age bracket suggests we have years in our window to still play out.

Every time this happens it reminds you that you support the Brisbane Lions. Not the Lachie Neal club or the Dayne Beams

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Dayne Beams

Age

34

Ht

187cm

Wt

88kg

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Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

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25.6

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.5

4star

T

3.6

5star

CL

4.9

5star

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D

15.6

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

club. This hurts and will definitely be a bump in the road for a number of reasons. But we are mature enough, stable enough and now partially thanks to him, successful enough to cope.

 

[Mighty Lions]

McStay was always willing to hit the pack. Hit and miss if he stuck the mark, probably more miss than hit.

Dis-agree. Often in 2019 & 2020 he just didnt get in when it was time to go. Now he's primed to hit it every time.

 

[Mighty Lions]

Reading what Lachie's Dad said , and there's absolutely no reason to disbelieve it , maybe Jules was having a bit of a hard time and Lachie's management just put the feelers out to see if there was any interest , ascertaining if there were any other options. And someone got wind of it.

If that's the case Freo would be thinking if we can get him for not a lot why wouldn't you. And we're just waiting to see if he's serious about wanting to go.

On balance that's probably the likelihood of where it sits. If it's genuinely an issue of Jules struggling through the season none of this would be helping at all.

No, not even close to the truth. Jules is happy living in Brissy. Fake news but everyone talking crap about it just makes things worse for the Neale's & Lions.

The paparazzi have been out the front of his house now since Sunday and he has cars following him every time he leave the house. I wouldn't blame them to want to get out of Brisbane now & I wouldn't blame The Lions for wanting to do some kind of deal if there is a sweet offer on the table.

 

[Lions1024]

At best there's a level of naivety at play even if this was "an in house discussion" at the Neale household as his dad puts it. The minute you talk to managers who talk to other clubs your intentions are known. At worst it's clever manipulation.

I think you would be surprised at how often management on behalf of players reach out to other clubs (often during the season). I suspect Fremantle has strategically leaked this piece of information to force Lachie's hand. The only winner in all of this is Fremantle.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Dis-agree. Often in 2019 & 2020 he just didnt get in when it was time to go. Now he's primed to hit it every time.

Such a confidence player and Fages and the other coaches have been largely responsible for building his confidence to the level that he can attack the contest and not worry about making mistakes. It has carried over into his goal kicking now as well. We can't play our current style of game successfully without him there.

 

[LionsMaw]

Lachie must really love her, She has caused him a fu** load of problems

Seriously?? How is it his wife's fault that this story is now out in the open?

 

[M Malice]

No, not even close to the truth. Jules is happy living in Brissy. Fake news but everyone talking crap about it just makes things worse for the Neale's & Lions.

The paparazzi have been out the front of his house now since Sunday and he has cars following him every time he leave the house. I wouldn't blame them to want to get out of Brisbane now & I wouldn't blame The Lions for wanting to do some kind of deal if there is a sweet offer on the table.

The Brisbane press would go away quickly if this thing is resolved and move onto other things, if Jules is happy in Brisbane I can't see why they wouldn't come out and say they are staying. The Covid shitstorm of restrictions/border closures is likely to be over before the start of next season so she can visit her family or they can fly here regularly.

Lachie not fronting the press and announcing he is staying leads me to believe he is mentally out the door though, press reaction would be close to zero consideration for him in the family decision IMO.

 

[lionsrules]

It’s lachie neale

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Lachie Neale

Age

31

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

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Mid

Career

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Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

sales event ! Everything about him must go !

 

[jackess]

It’s lachie neale sales event ! Everything about him must go !

Hope we're not selling Neale at 50% off

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

The Brisbane press would go away quickly if this thing is resolved and move onto other things, if Jules is happy in Brisbane I can't see why they wouldn't come out and say they are staying. The Covid shitstorm of restrictions/border closures is likely to be over before the start of next season so she can visit her family or they can fly here regularly.

Lachie not fronting the press and announcing he is staying leads me to believe he is mentally out the door though, press reaction would be close to zero consideration for him in the family decision IMO.

It's entirely possible that they're conflicted - that is, they love Brisbane and the Lions but there is the isolation from family and the impending birth that is pulling them home. Not sure it's a simple as "make up your mind, are you going or staying". He's a professional footballer, I understand that, but they're also a family unit about to have their first child and he wants to do the right thing by them. Not sure the club is feeling the same level of angst as many supporters seem to be (that's not directed at you Jason).

 

[Nuggo]

Dis-agree. Often in 2019 & 2020 he just didnt get in when it was time to go. Now he's primed to hit it every time.

Admittedly he was quieter in the those years but at the beginning of his career (like where Fullarton is now) it seemed he would launch all time mostly resulting in turnovers. Perhaps it is just the way I saw it.