Player Watch Ned McHenry - Delisted

[Eagleboy2011]

And one of his assistants.....

Tex Walker.

Tex Walker joins Ned McHenry as coach at Prince Alfred Old Collegians for next year​

Adelaide star Taylor Walker is preparing for life after the Crows and one local footy club is set to reap the rewards as he joins their coaching panel.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger/sport/tex-walker-joins-ned-mchenry-as-coach-at-prince-alfred-old-collegians-for-next-year/news-story/8cb3b7ffcfbc1b3cdcfe273921e1e89a?utm_source=AdelaideNow&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Editorial&utm_content=ADV_BREAKING_NEWS-ALERT_01&net_sub_id=285893080&type=curated&position=1

 

[DJ75]

Tex Walker joins Ned McHenry as coach at Prince Alfred Old Collegians for next year​

Adelaide star Taylor Walker is preparing for life after the Crows and one local footy club is set to reap the rewards as he joins their coaching panel.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger/sport/tex-walker-joins-ned-mchenry-as-coach-at-prince-alfred-old-collegians-for-next-year/news-story/8cb3b7ffcfbc1b3cdcfe273921e1e89a?utm_source=AdelaideNow&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Editorial&utm_content=ADV_BREAKING_NEWS-ALERT_01&net_sub_id=285893080&type=curated&position=1

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Looks like Tex's kids will be getting the same 'discounts' that Roo's kids have had.
Old PAC love a footy scholarship or 20.

 

[Cromulant]

Looks like Tex's kids will be getting the same 'discounts' that Roo's kids have had.
Old PAC love a footy scholarship or 20.

They wouldnt be the only Old Scholars club to do it either.

 

[Coopers]

Yay, private schools doing their thing.

 

[Soggy2112]

They wouldnt be the only Old Scholars club to do it either.

Old Scholars clubs should be ****ed off entirely if you ask me

 

[Cromulant]

Old Scholars clubs should be ****ed off entirely if you ask me

Ehh, they've made the competition better really.

There's absolutely advantages they've got, but then they don't have some of the things that make community clubs great as well. I've seen it from both side too.

 

[Soggy2112]

Ehh, they've made the competition better really.

There's absolutely advantages they've got, but then they don't have some of the things that make community clubs great as well. I've seen it from both side too.

How do they make the competition better?

What do they do to help build communities?

What do they do to add to junior footy?

The rising obsession of private schools in footy, both at local and elite level is gross and detrimental to the game. Old scholars clubs only promote that.

 

[Cromulant]

How do they make the competition better?

What do they do to help build communities?

What do they do to add to junior footy?

The rising obsession of private schools in footy, both at local and elite level is gross and detrimental to the game. Old scholars clubs only promote that.

Every club around them has had to lift their game, and the standard of the comp is better than it was 20 years ago. D3 clubs now are better than D1 clubs were in the 90s. The point you make about junior footy is a somewhat valid one, but does every TTG junior play senior footy for them ??

Detrimental to the game ?? FFS get off your high horse.

And no I did not go to private school

 

[Apsaalooke]

Every club around them has had to lift their game, and the standard of the comp is better than it was 20 years ago. D3 clubs now are better than D1 clubs were in the 90s. The point you make about junior footy is a somewhat valid one, but does every TTG junior play senior footy for them ??

Detrimental to the game ?? FFS get off your high horse.

And no I did not go to private school

The good thing about footy is that it transcends social classes. Let them all play.
And yes I did go to a public school.

 

[Soggy2112]

Every club around them has had to lift their game, and the standard of the comp is better than it was 20 years ago. D3 clubs now are better than D1 clubs were in the 90s. The point you make about junior footy is a somewhat valid one, but does every TTG junior play senior footy for them ??

Detrimental to the game ?? FFS get off your high horse.

And no I did not go to private school

Local clubs, who a primarily volunteer driven, do valuable work growing the game at junior levels. Old scholars clubs do none of that work and then pinch a lot of the high quality talent, a lot of the time because of the money and connections they are blessed with.

On top of that, football has the potential to be something that unites communities. Old scholars clubs pretty much create a class divide within the game.

As another issue, there has been an increase in percentage of draftees that come from a private school background in recent years. This is massively alarming, footy is supposed to be a cheap, accessible game for the masses. That’s part of its appeal. We’re losing that and nothing really seems to be done about it, the prevalence of old scholars clubs in the top division is adding to that.

Currently in the top 2 divs there are 5 old scholars clubs, if you count uni there’s 6. There’s 1 northern suburbs club. Do you think that’s a coincidence?

 

[GreyCrow]

Local clubs, who a primarily volunteer driven, do valuable work growing the game at junior levels. Old scholars clubs do none of that work and then pinch a lot of the high quality talent, a lot of the time because of the money and connections they are blessed with.

On top of that, football has the potential to be something that unites communities. Old scholars clubs pretty much create a class divide within the game.

As another issue, there has been an increase in percentage of draftees that come from a private school background in recent years. This is massively alarming, footy is supposed to be a cheap, accessible game for the masses. That’s part of its appeal. We’re losing that and nothing really seems to be done about it, the prevalence of old scholars clubs in the top division is adding to that.

Currently in the top 2 divs there are 5 old scholars clubs, if you count uni there’s 6. There’s 1 northern suburbs club. Do you think that’s a coincidence?

You present some good points but will you start handicapping the 1 northern club when/if they dominate?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Amateur league senior football has nothing to do with AFL draftees

Not part of the pathway at all

It's social football

The higher percentage of draftees being from colleges is because of the increasing prevalence of scholarships. Nothing to do with old scholars teams

 

[adelaidecrows]

Amateur league senior football has nothing to do with AFL draftees

Not part of the pathway at all

It's social football

The higher percentage of draftees being from colleges is because of the increasing prevalence of scholarships. Nothing to do with old scholars teams

The pathway is generally

amatuer juniors - talented kids get invited to sanfl junior development programs, which leads to state footy and AFL talent recognition. However it was widely known Henley Sharks were an Eagles development team in the early to mid 90s. My friend played for Rosewater in an u15 GF against Henley and half the players drove home after the match.

Played against plenty of the college teams over the years and as far as I can tell, they dont have a lot to do with the schools at all. Didnt Roo go and pull on the boots for one. So did Welsh and Perrie. Its merely a name for a club that probably once served the school.

 

[Cromulant]

Local clubs, who a primarily volunteer driven, do valuable work growing the game at junior levels. Old scholars clubs do none of that work and then pinch a lot of the high quality talent, a lot of the time because of the money and connections they are blessed with.

On top of that, football has the potential to be something that unites communities. Old scholars clubs pretty much create a class divide within the game.

As another issue, there has been an increase in percentage of draftees that come from a private school background in recent years. This is massively alarming, footy is supposed to be a cheap, accessible game for the masses. That’s part of its appeal. We’re losing that and nothing really seems to be done about it, the prevalence of old scholars clubs in the top division is adding to that.

Currently in the top 2 divs there are 5 old scholars clubs, if you count uni there’s 6. There’s 1 northern suburbs club. Do you think that’s a coincidence?

Swings and roundabouts my friend, not all that long ago you had Eastern Park in D1 albeit for a year, Salisbury North are back there next year and Golden Grove are a safe D1 club now.... and they spend A LOT of cash as well as having great juniors, hell they even pay their women's sides !!! TTG bounce between the 2 and have built a great club over a long period. Modbury are bouncing back


The northern sides also suffer from a distinct lack of organisational structure and some (not all) have serious disciplinary issues which have caused them self inflicted pain. Youve gotta want to do the work, and they don't.

I think you just sound like a bitter bloke who's looking for excuses

 

[Cromulant]

The pathway is generally

amatuer juniors - talented kids get invited to sanfl junior development programs, which leads to state footy and AFL talent recognition. However it was widely known Henley Sharks were an Eagles development team in the early to mid 90s. My friend played for Rosewater in an u15 GF against Henley and half the players drove home after the match.

Played against plenty of the college teams over the years and as far as I can tell, they dont have a lot to do with the schools at all. Didnt Roo go and pull on the boots for one. So did Welsh and Perrie. Its merely a name for a club that probably once served the school.

On that last point, which is somewhat true TBH, there's plenty of players for the community clubs who are exactly the same due to the $$$ in amateur leagues and country leagues these days.

Let's not pretend that's all the Old Scholars clubs doing, most of it isn't that at all.

 

[Jars458]

Amateur league senior football has nothing to do with AFL draftees

Not part of the pathway at all

It's social football

The higher percentage of draftees being from colleges is because of the increasing prevalence of scholarships. Nothing to do with old scholars teams

Agree about the old scholars but the private schools have much better coaching and resources which is the issue and of course not just in sport.

 

[Soggy2112]

Amateur league senior football has nothing to do with AFL draftees

Not part of the pathway at all

It's social football

The higher percentage of draftees being from colleges is because of the increasing prevalence of scholarships. Nothing to do with old scholars teams

I think you misinterpreted what I meant. I think the increasing influence of private schools on footy is generally a negative thing, old scholars clubs being a part of it, school footy being a much bigger part of the pathway is another part.

The pathway is generally

amatuer juniors - talented kids get invited to sanfl junior development programs, which leads to state footy and AFL talent recognition. However it was widely known Henley Sharks were an Eagles development team in the early to mid 90s. My friend played for Rosewater in an u15 GF against Henley and half the players drove home after the match.

If we’re talking about the pathway, that’s again one of my key concerns with the rising influence of private schools on the elite pathway.

Fundamentally, the school comp weakens the SANFL under age comp. The school comp is, by design, made to be exclusive. It’s not fair, and it’s not improving footy as a whole. Yet, no one really seems to talk about it, in fact the opposite, you have commentators promoting these schools as “footy factories”.

Played against plenty of the college teams over the years and as far as I can tell, they dont have a lot to do with the schools at all. Didnt Roo go and pull on the boots for one. So did Welsh and Perrie. Its merely a name for a club that probably once served the school.

If that’s all they are then great, but then stop acting as a seniors only club. Do what every other club does and get juniors and actually help grow the game and community.

There’d still be a majority of players who went to that school.

Swings and roundabouts my friend, not all that long ago you had Eastern Park in D1 albeit for a year, Salisbury North are back there next year and Golden Grove are a safe D1 club now.... and they spend A LOT of cash as well as having great juniors, hell they even pay their women's sides !!! TTG bounce between the 2 and have built a great club over a long period. Modbury are bouncing back


The northern sides also suffer from a distinct lack of organisational structure and some (not all) have serious disciplinary issues which have caused them self inflicted pain. Youve gotta want to do the work, and they don't.

I think you just sound like a bitter bloke who's looking for excuses

I wouldn’t categorise Modbury, TTG or GG as northern, the north east is socioeconomically pretty different. All the points you raise about why a club like Salisbury West fell off are also valid. I’m more pointing to those clubs being weak as indicative of a trend of who’s being successful that to me is concerning.

It’s interesting you raise Golden Grove because I think they’re a prime example of my point. I don’t think they’re should pay what they do but that’s a separate issue, however, look how many junior sides they have. Look how much work they do growing the game and the community.

Then compare to SPOC, PAOC, SHOC etc. What do they do?

Agree about the old scholars but the private schools have much better coaching and resources which is the issue and of course not just in sport.

They also have increased exposure by being able to play in the schools comp, which again, another example of opportunities being afforded to some kids that aren’t to others for no reason other than having wealthy parents or connections.

It’s a broader issue in society as a whole, and it’s something that footy needs to guard against.

We need to remember, the AFL is tax exempt because it’s supposed to be a community organisation. School footy and old scholars clubs in my opinion counteract footy’s ability to build communities.

 

[Cromulant]

I still think its all swings and roundabouts.

There will be periods where the OS clubs dominate, like PAC have done recently. Before that though you had a long period of Goody Saints dominance.

The northern suburbs struggles are a concern, the growth in population up there hasnt translated to numbers on the park. Elizabeth, Smithfield and Salisbury in particular, St Pauls and Central United being smaller clubs will probably always struggle.

 

[jackster83]

I still think its all swings and roundabouts.

There will be periods where the OS clubs dominate, like PAC have done recently. Before that though you had a long period of Goody Saints dominance.

The northern suburbs struggles are a concern, the growth in population up there hasnt translated to numbers on the park. Elizabeth, Smithfield and Salisbury in particular, St Pauls and Central United being smaller clubs will probably always struggle.

The biggest issue for the northern clubs is losing players to the country leagues like the BLGFA and the APFL.

Why play for Elizabeth when you can drive 25 mins down the road and get paid good money to play for Two Wells?

 

[Cromulant]

The biggest issue for the northern clubs is losing players to the country leagues like the BLGFA and the APFL.

Why play for Elizabeth when you can drive 25 mins down the road and get paid good money to play for Two Wells?

Fair few guys play in the HFL these days too.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

The biggest issue for the northern clubs is losing players to the country leagues like the BLGFA and the APFL.

Why play for Elizabeth when you can drive 25 mins down the road and get paid good money to play for Two Wells?

There's way too many northern clubs. Within about a 15km radius, you have Salisbury, Salisbury North, Brahma Lodge, Ingle Farm, Para Hills, Mawson Lakes, Elizabeth, Eastern Park, Central United, Smithfield, Trinity OS and Pooraka. That's not including NE clubs like Golden Grove and Modbury.

With country clubs offering more pay and players constantly shifting from club to club, it comes as no surprise that many of them are struggling to keep afloat.

 

[Soggy2112]

I still think its all swings and roundabouts.

There will be periods where the OS clubs dominate, like PAC have done recently. Before that though you had a long period of Goody Saints dominance.

The northern suburbs struggles are a concern, the growth in population up there hasnt translated to numbers on the park. Elizabeth, Smithfield and Salisbury in particular, St Pauls and Central United being smaller clubs will probably always struggle.

Perhaps. Like I said, the northern clubs need to be run better, however I think the fact that those clubs are struggling, despite a high population, is indicative that the game is becoming less accessible, which is one of my key concerns with private school footy in general.

My key issue with these clubs, is they do not have juniors. They do very little to grow the game and then poach players from clubs who do, on top of that, they essentially create a class divide within the game, when footy should be something that unites and builds communities.

If an OS club decided to set up a junior program and use the resources they can access due to the wealth and connections of their members, then I’d be all ears, but they don’t, because like a lot of private school things, they like being exclusive.

 

[Cromulant]

Perhaps. Like I said, the northern clubs need to be run better, however I think the fact that those clubs are struggling, despite a high population, is indicative that the game is becoming less accessible, which is one of my key concerns with private school footy in general.

My key issue with these clubs, is they do not have juniors. They do very little to grow the game and then poach players from clubs who do, on top of that, they essentially create a class divide within the game, when footy should be something that unites and builds communities.

If an OS club decided to set up a junior program and use the resources they can access due to the wealth and connections of their members, then I’d be all ears, but they don’t, because like a lot of private school things, they like being exclusive.

Maybe

Mt Barker and Blackwood are the 2 biggest populations in the HFL, in fact each of them would have more people in their areas than the rest of the league combined, double even. Been a long time since either of them won a senior flag.

A poorly run club is poorly run regardless of what everyone else does.

They share a common issue though, people in those populations may live there.... but they do so due to convenience rather than community

 

[Trenchies Park]

Swings and roundabouts my friend, not all that long ago you had Eastern Park in D1 albeit for a year, Salisbury North are back there next year and Golden Grove are a safe D1 club now.... and they spend A LOT of cash as well as having great juniors, hell they even pay their women's sides !!! TTG bounce between the 2 and have built a great club over a long period. Modbury are bouncing back


The northern sides also suffer from a distinct lack of organisational structure and some (not all) have serious disciplinary issues which have caused them self inflicted pain. Youve gotta want to do the work, and they don't.

I think you just sound like a bitter bloke who's looking for excuses

Salisbury North aren't that flash with their juniors these days TTG, GG and Modbury in that order. Angle Vale could be strong but spread their kids over 2 leagues

 

[Cromulant]

Salisbury North aren't that flash with their juniors these days TTG, GG and Modbury in that order. Angle Vale could be strong but spread their kids over 2 leagues

I get why they do that too, it'll work for them in the end