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in all seriousness when did Kochie say we were going to announce it? and will we be announcing it at the Melp grand prix?
 
How many times do people have to be told that the teams Red Bull re brand are all PRIVATLEY owned teams. The chance of them sponsoring us is slim, the chance they'd sponsor us and totally re brand us is next .00001%
 
How many times do people have to be told that the teams Red Bull re brand are all PRIVATLEY owned teams. The chance of them sponsoring us is slim, the chance they'd sponsor us and totally re brand us is next .00001%

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WhyAlwaysMe is right, the major difference is that Red Bull completely bought the teams out so as owners of the club they are free to do what they want with it, whether it be to change there colors, names, history, location. As a sponsor, all they will do is pump much needed sponsorship money into the club and i fully welcome our fizzy, liver destroying sponsor overlords to the club.
 
It's a possibility.

No it isn't. AFL doesn't fit their brand profile in this country. These guys have dropped to third / fourth ranked manufacturer in one of the fastest growing categories in grocery, there is a lot at stake. If, for some reason, they changed their marketing strategy then why would they choose PAFC to launch through? Putting that aside what you are then suggesting is basically a takeover of the club by a sponsor. How much to sell your brand, surely more than $500k per season? A million? Why would we do it and why the hell would Red Bull spend it?? The RIO would be extremely shaky for a company that has only one brand and in real terms their turnover hardly ranks up there with many larger companies, including notably their top 2 competitors.
 
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WhyAlwaysMe is right, the major difference is that Red Bull completely bought the teams out so as owners of the club they are free to do what they want with it, whether it be to change there colors, names, history, location. As a sponsor, all they will do is pump much needed sponsorship money into the club and i fully welcome our fizzy, liver destroying sponsor overlords to the club.
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To get this back on track, its pretty damn exciting that we are now discussing major international brands as potential sponsors of the PAFC.

so exciting in fact that a number of people are willing to trade the club's identity for one

i suspect that in real life these people are easily distracted by shiny objects (much like crows...)
 
privately owned soccer clubs are not allowed in germany either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RB_Leipzig

Rasen Ballsport Leipzig is a German association football club based in Leipzig, Saxony. The club is supported by energy drink-maker Red Bull who purchased the license of fifth division side SSV Markranstädt with the intention of advancing the re-modeled club to the top-flight Bundesliga within ten years. In their inaugural season, RB dominated the NOFV-Oberliga Süd (fifth division) in 2009–10 and as a result were promoted as champions to the Regionalliga Nord (fourth division) for the 2010–2011 season.

Founded in May 2009, RasenBallsport Leipzig is the fourth football involvement of Red Bull, which already runs football clubs including Red Bull Salzburg in Salzburg, Austria, the New York Red Bulls and Red Bull Brasil in Campinas, Brazil. The name differs from these other teams' names due to the statutes of the German Football Association (Deutscher Fußball-Bund) which prescribe how a sponsor's name is used as part of a club's identity.[1][2] Unlike its other sports teams, the Leipzig club cannot carry the Red Bull name or be fully owned by the company. The German Football Association requires a club to hold 51% of its shares, Red Bull will therefore only be able to acquire 49% of the club.[3] This has also resulted in the somewhat awkward "RasenBallsport" ("Lawn(Pitch) Ball Sporting") name of the club in order to retain at least the initials of Red Bull while at the same time feigning compliance with traditional, descriptive naming schemes of german clubs.

"RB" leipzig

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if this off-season has taught us anything, it's that there are no rules in the AFL. AFL rules are more like starting points for negotiation. have we already forgotten the farce of the crows and demons punishments? that visy are now paying chris judd through carlton's injury payments allowance?

if red bull approach the afl and say that in exchange for the same level of board control the SANFL currently has, they'll pump $5m+ per year into the club, turn it into a powerhouse and ensure it never needs financial assistance again, does anyone think that demetriou wouldn't jump at the opportunity?

because if red bull want to 'sponsor' an AFL team, that's how it would go down. they wouldn't come with an offer of $500k-1m a season to have their logo on the back or front of the jumper like everyone else. there are literally no examples of them ever engaging in passive sponsorship like that, but there are plenty of examples of them doing the former.
 
privately owned soccer clubs are not allowed in germany either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RB_Leipzig



"RB" leipzig

RB_Leipzig.png



if this off-season has taught us anything, it's that there are no rules in the AFL. AFL rules are more like starting points for negotiation. have we already forgotten the farce of the crows and demons punishments? that visy are now paying chris judd through carlton's injury payments allowance?

if red bull approach the afl and say that in exchange for the same level of board control the SANFL currently has, they'll pump $5m+ per year into the club, turn it into a powerhouse and ensure it never needs financial assistance again, does anyone think that demetriou wouldn't jump at the opportunity?

because if red bull want to 'sponsor' an AFL team, that's how it would go down. they wouldn't come with an offer of $500k-1m a season to have their logo on the back or front of the jumper like everyone else. there are literally no examples of them ever engaging in passive sponsorship like that, but there are plenty of examples of them doing the former.

Why would they approach the afl, the sanfl own our licence? Why would they massively overinvest in a club based in the smallest afl marketplace by owning rather than sponsoring? Privately owned teams are much more common in the sports / countries mentioned that Red Bull are involved in. I just can't see any ROI argument as to why they would even consider a move like this, especially faced with a limited australian marketing fund and a relatively capped turnover given their category position.
 
Why would they approach the afl, the sanfl own our licence? Why would they massively overinvest in a club based in the smallest afl marketplace by owning rather than sponsoring? Privately owned teams are much more common in the sports / countries mentioned that Red Bull are involved in. I just can't see any ROI argument as to why they would even consider a move like this, especially faced with a limited australian marketing fund and a relatively capped turnover given their category position.

the AFL will have our license soon enough, but regardless, imagine red bull come to the club with a sponsorship offer of $5m+ a season for ten years, but that it comes with certain strings attached with regard to changing the name, colours and branding of the club. even if the club refuses the lucrative offer, what do they then do when the AFL - seeing a convenient solution to port's financial problems - says they must accept it or lose all special assistance funding?

i agree, it isn't likely for many reasons, some of which you've outlined. but if red bull were to enter AFL sponsorship, it would be along those lines. they don't do passive sponsorship.
 
Why would they approach the afl, the sanfl own our licence? Why would they massively overinvest in a club based in the smallest afl marketplace by owning rather than sponsoring? Privately owned teams are much more common in the sports / countries mentioned that Red Bull are involved in. I just can't see any ROI argument as to why they would even consider a move like this, especially faced with a limited australian marketing fund and a relatively capped turnover given their category position.
Because it would be relatively small investment for them to make us strong again. The when we 6 flags in a row the redbull flag will be on every australians tv...
 
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