Other New Patriots Scandal - DeflateGate

[ausbacker]

Brady should get a 1 game ban.

Don't forget Wild Bill, JAG's late game performance against the Chiefs lead many to question whether the time was right to make the transition...

 

[Eagle87]

Sure it is.

Compelling..... Incisive .... Genius ...

 

[BomberWatson]

Strawman alert ....

Uh no, that's not a strawman, that's showing the farcical nature of your last point. I know we get taken out to the woodshed regardless, I don't care about that. That doesn't mean you're allowed to cheat willy nilly. I never knew it was A-OK to do so just because you would have won anyway (which you would've). Which begs the question, why do it to begin with? But hey, keep your head in the sand...

 

[Blacky]

We have an organisation who has been penalised in the past for cheating

We have Tom Brady on record saying he likes deflated balls

Hardly tin foil territory

 

[Blacky]

The outcome doesn't matter btw. Only the intention

 

[Eagle87]

Uh no, that's not a strawman, that's showing the farcical nature of your last point. I know we get taken out to the woodshed regardless, I don't care about that. That doesn't mean you're allowed to cheat willy nilly. I never knew it was A-OK to do so just because you would have won anyway (which you would've). Which begs the question, why do it to begin with? But hey, keep your head in the sand...

No, you used Armstrong, the sports equivalent of invoking Hitler ...

He used substances that cause an advantage in exactly the areas he was elite in.... They absolutely changed the result ...

No head in sand at all, if it's a breach it should be punished... But perspective is required...

I'm hoping you are equally determined to see the Bombers punished..

 

[Eagle87]

We have an organisation who has been penalised in the past for cheating

We have Tom Brady on record saying he likes deflated balls

Hardly tin foil territory

Cast iron. Case closed.

 

[Toadvine]

The outcome doesn't matter btw. Only the intention

Exactly.

 

[Blacky]

Cast iron. Case closed.

You're the one offering a definitive response

I am merely open to the prospect that it could well have been intentional based on past behavior

 

[Eagle87]

The outcome doesn't matter btw. Only the intention

Not entirely true.

See Ray Rice.

See match fixing vs say using an Aluminium Bar.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Ravens also complaining that the balls used in the divisional game were under-inflated.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...ink-footballs-were-under-inflated-vs-patriots

 

[Blacky]

This is too good

 

[Eagle87]

You're the one offering a definitive response

I am merely open to the prospect that it could well have been intentional based on past behavior

Huh...

Read the post you responded to. It was a Leap to a comclusion based on nothing.

Joining imaginary dots could take us pretty much anywhere we wanted to go on almost any argument about anything ....

 

[Exe Gesis]

All these years of playing in cold weather outdoors suddenly theres an issue, refs aren't aware when to check psi of balls?

C'mon man! ausbacker

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Graham Gano has posted a series of tweets about how the game balls can deflate during the game.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

 

[Blacky]

Huh...

Read the post you responded to. It was a Leap to a comclusion based on nothing.

Joining imaginary dots could take us pretty much anywhere we wanted to go on almost any argument about anything ....

Imaginary?

You lost a first round pick for spygate. Why is it such a reach that you could be capable of another transgression?

11/12 is a pretty big figure

I hardly think this is "nothing". It may well be a mistake, but it is a coincidence then that it revolves arounf your organisation

 

[Beetlebum]

My whole issue is that before every drive begins, each time a ball enters the field of play, the match officials are the first to touch it. If it's not up to scratch they would surely be trained to know when a ball is under the correct PSI level just by feel, if it makes such a difference surely the NFL need to have their officials all over it. Perhaps they will now.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

What's the over/under on the inflation of the game balls for the SB?

Vegas should be setting a line.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

At this point it's one of two scenarios:

1) The Patriots legitimately cheated, or
2) Given the apparent uniform nature of the depression, 11/12 balls experienced a drop in PSI in cold weather conditions.

Graham Gano is over it on Twitter stating the refs check the PSI indoors and not outdoors. For the sake of my fandom, I sincerely hope there is no funny business on the Patriots behalf. If proven to be altering footballs (even though Rodgers has said he likes his overinflated), it's not a good look and the team deserves a fine and a loss of a draft pick.

I'll let the facts play our further before teeing off.

I've posted Gano's tweets on the AFC Championship game thread here.

 

[Blacky]

My whole issue is that before every drive begins, each time a ball enters the field of play, the match officials are the first to touch it. If it's not up to scratch they would surely be trained to know when a ball is under the correct PSI level just by feel, if it makes such a difference surely the NFL need to have their officials all over it. Perhaps they will now.

They held up play at one point because of this

 

[pantskyle]

Excuse my ignorance but why didn't the officials pick this up in the game?

 

[Eagle87]

They held up play at one point because of this

Straight after half time when allegedly the balls had been retested because of the Colts complaint...

Also interesting that no players seemed to notice anything on either side ...

 

[Dixie Flatline]

 

[Blacky]

Straight after half time when allegedly the balls had been retested because of the Colts complaint...

Also interesting that no players seemed to notice anything on either side ...

The colts use their own ball and they were noticed by the colts as soon as Jackson picked off Brady