Opinion NMFC Board Cricket ThreadII - Windies, Big Bash, Pakistan.

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I thought the Bairstow dismissal was a low act and unnecessary playing with a win at all costs mentality but this Bangladesh fiasco is lower again. I thought the idea of players playing together in IPL and getting to know each other would have stamped out such bad sportsmanship but its at at an all time low now. Disgusting and again the umpires failed to take control of the situation. Shows how stupid rules are when common sense should be applied by them. The comments by the Bangladesh captain are pethetic at best
 

What did Shakib say?​

Bangladesh captain Shakib said there "will be debates" about the dismissal.

"One of our fielders came to me and said if you appeal now he will be out," explained Shakib. "I appealed and the umpire asked me if I was serious, whether I would take it back or not. I said no. If it is in the rules then it is out and that is exactly what happened.

"It is in the Laws. I don't know if it it is right or wrong. But I feel like I was at a war so I had to take a decision to make sure my team wins so whatever I needed to do I had to do it.

"Right or wrong there will be debates. But if it is within the rules I don't mind taking those chances.

"I thought it [the dismissal] helped in a way. It gave me more fight. I won't deny that."

Speaking in his press conference, he added: "I've known him [Mathews] since 2006 and we've played a lot of cricket against each other so we know each other well.

"He came and asked me if I would withdraw the appeal. I said I understand your situation, it was unfortunate but I don't want to.

"I'll be careful that it doesn't happen to me."
 

What did Mathews say?​

Mathews opted to do the post-match press conference for Sri Lanka and called it "disgraceful from Shakib and Bangladesh if they want to play cricket like that".

"I hadn't done anything wrong. I have two minutes to get to the crease and get myself ready, which I did, and then it was an equipment malfunction," said Mathews.

"I don't know where the common sense went. To scoop down to that level there is something drastically wrong.

"The umpires have said to our coaches that they didn't see my helmet breaking. I was just asking for my helmet there. It was just pure common sense - I'm not talking about 'Mankading' [running out a batter at the non-striker's end] or obstructing the field.

"They have to respect the game itself. We are all ambassadors of this beautiful game, including the umpires. If you don't respect or use common sense, what more can you ask for?"

Speaking via a translator, Sri Lanka captain Mendis called the incident "disappointing" in his post-match interview.
 

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I thought the Bairstow dismissal was a low act and unnecessary playing with a win at all costs mentality but this Bangladesh fiasco is lower again. I thought the idea of players playing together in IPL and getting to know each other would have stamped out such bad sportsmanship but its at at an all time low now. Disgusting and again the umpires failed to take control of the situation. Shows how stupid rules are when common sense should be applied by them. The comments by the Bangladesh captain are pethetic at best
Cricket must be the only sport where it is considered unsportsmanlike to apply the rules...
 
Cricket must be the only sport where it is considered unsportsmanlike to apply the rules...
So with that thinking we all agree because the Trevor Chappell under arm delivery was within the rules at the time we should all do that because it means we win a game of cricket. Its only a game at the end of the day. You really want to win a game like that. I dont.
 
The sport’s administrators could remove the rules about “all the different ways to get out” if they don’t want them applied. They are each there for a reason. It’s ludicrous that these conversations keep happening. Don’t break the rule and you don’t get given out that way. And I’d say the same whichever teams were involved. Know the rules, play by the rules, stop whining.

I would just note that this one seems like the Bairstow dismissal in that the fielding side hasn’t appealed the first time the batsman risked being dismissed - they’ve responded to a pattern of behaviour.
 
The difference to me between the Bairstow and Mathews dismissals is that I fail to see where 'spirit of the game' applies to Bairstow. Being stumped off a seamer with the keeper standing back is unusual, every cricketer knows to stand in his crease until the ball is called dead. Bairstow wasn't trying to gain an advantage, but he was guilty of lazy, inattentive play which cost him his wicket.

Mathews is guilty of nothing. He didn't go out there with a strap he knew was broken. He wasn't intentionally stalling. He might have even alerted the umpire when the strap broke. It was a more cynical and snide dismissal.
 
The difference to me between the Bairstow and Mathews dismissals is that I fail to see where 'spirit of the game' applies to Bairstow. Being stumped off a seamer with the keeper standing back is unusual, every cricketer knows to stand in his crease until the ball is called dead. Bairstow wasn't trying to gain an advantage, but he was guilty of lazy, inattentive play which cost him his wicket.

Mathews is guilty of nothing. He didn't go out there with a strap he knew was broken. He wasn't intentionally stalling. He might have even alerted the umpire when the strap broke. It was a more cynical and snide dismissal.
It depends whether the broken strap was the only reason. Surely the umpires wouldn’t allow the dismissal if it was just that - like in the WBBL the other night the umpires used their discretion when Sophie Bates bowled and Harmampreet Kaur wasn’t ready (but arguably should have been).
 

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It depends whether the broken strap was the only reason. Surely the umpires wouldn’t allow the dismissal if it was just that - like in the WBBL the other night the umpires used their discretion when Sophie Bates bowled and Harmampreet Kaur wasn’t ready (but arguably should have been).

I believe the umpires gave Shakib the opportunity to withdraw the appeal once they realised it was the strap but he didn't.

The other issue is Mathews was still within his two minutes when it broke (1:55), but for whatever reason the umpires weren't timing properly and thought the time had elapsed. So they couldn't really deny the appeal.
 
I believe the umpires gave Shakib the opportunity to withdraw the appeal once they realised it was the strap but he didn't.

The other issue is Mathews was still within his two minutes when it broke (1:55), but for whatever reason the umpires weren't timing properly and thought the time had elapsed. So they couldn't really deny the appeal.
So he was really pushing his luck. Five seconds off going over for no reason except gamesmanship.
 
It's definitely the only sport where people won't accept applying common sense to rules.
I dunno, have you seen other boards justification of some umpiring decisions?
 
Starc is a great new ball bowler (when conditions are suitable for him) but other than that just doesn’t look threatening at all and always seems to be the most expensive. I’m surprised his spot isn’t under more pressure
 
Starc is a great new ball bowler (when conditions are suitable for him) but other than that just doesn’t look threatening at all and always seems to be the most expensive. I’m surprised his spot isn’t under more pressure

He is the first Australian bowler picked.
 
Pitches this tournament have had barely anything in them. Funny how when India play tests they're happy to put up shitty dustbowls yet when it's the world cup they offer nothing
 
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