Past Coach NMFC Senior Coach - David Noble has parted ways with NMFC

[Roosurgence]

Last time I checked the club pays for the coach...

True.

We must have paid peanuts for this one

 

[Hearts to hearts]

This is insane. He has been coach for one and a bit seasons. He was asked to start from scratch.

 

[gokangas]

This is insane. He has been coach for one and a bit seasons. He was asked to start from scratch.

I suppose its easy to doubt him right now given our regression this year, but I agree. He is the coach and we need to trust the process at least until end of this season and see where we stand. Don't really have any choice tbh.

 

[Engimal v3]

Way too early to make a call on Noble. Questions will come next year if there's no improvement.

 

[r_boy]

I suppose its easy to doubt him right now given our regression this year, but I agree. He is the coach and we need to trust the process at least until end of this season and see where we stand. Don't really have any choice tbh.

I dont think we need to trust the process as the process might be going wrong but at this stage we need to get behind and support the people who are there to review that process and make the appropriate adjustments.

The biggest thing is we need to play as a team and the onus is on everyone. The coaches have to develop and educate the players on a system. The players have to work hard and play for each other. I do think we have a lot of young talented players who are doing their best to crack a game and trying their best but aren't really playing the most team oriented brand or to a structure. When a few blokes play undisciplined structure and the senior core isn't really good enough to carry the team like Hawthorns seniors are, other players start to lose track also and then it just starts to fall like dominoes. That is then compounded by the mental challenge of maintaining intensity and positivity whilst getting pounded. None of that is easy as a young player when you feel like just cracking the side is an achievement.

Bringing in Powell and Comben isn't really going to alleviate that problem. And it's all well and good to have talent like Horne Francis or Petracca but they are only going to shine when everyone plays to a method and is on the same page.

We need a good gameplan, and if there is one, we need better education of it, and if there is good education, then we need the players to stick to it and play for each other.

What I really want to see is a thorough and honest appraisal from the top down that is supportive but sends the home truths and plots a path forward and there should be work put into it and not just lip service. Apart from that I'm backing the people there currently.

 

[Ischenko]

This is insane. He has been coach for one and a bit seasons. He was asked to start from scratch.

We’ve had some shit losses but many of the reactionary posts on here are just mind-blowing.

All of a sudden Brisbane wanted him gone, he’s lost the players, he’s a half wit with a brain injury and everyone knew he’s a dud except us and Paul Roos who fooled us. In addition, our list manager is a cretin, our assistants are stale, our senior players don’t care, our young players are disgruntled, the Arden St turf is poisonous, a nuclear holocaust is imminent etc etc.

Never known so many “itk” rumours flying around outside of trade period - where were you all at the start of the year? I imagine we had the same problems just waiting to manifest….

We are shit and devoid of confidence. But legit there is a reason ppl say “football is a funny game” and “you’re never as good or as bad as you think”. Noble could be Mark Neeld 2.0. We’ll know this year. Another 10 weeks like last week and yep he’s toast and we start again. But why not let that happen first instead of jumping at shadows? Some of you on here are insanely reactionary.

 

[GreatBradScott]

Look at our ten or so oldest players on the list - at least half of them aren't likely around come Rd 1, 2024 and not because they are "too old" - they're just not good enough. Especially in the late 20's (27 to 29 grouping).

Cunners goes down, the young midfield is exposed, we have a handful of constant injuries to under 24s in the last three years which have delayed the emergence of personnel. Add to that the hard start to the year, which curbs confidence in the group and we are where we are.

While I understand grievances, not panicking by any stage. HOWEVER, the second half of the year is a very soft draw. If we underperform, as in, don't win say three more, while going very close or having impressive patches in three or four more other games, I don't mind the pressure value going up a little on Noble and the football departments choices.

But until then, play on. Has my full support.

 

[ferball]

I think you are watching something different to I am.

Melbourne’s backline is not brutal. They are well structured and athletically elite. They play an intercept brand more than a crash and bash defence.

I am telling you now, he has just as much chance of being injured in a VFL game than at AFL level.

The way people carry on, maybe this guy should be playing touch footy if they want to limit his exposure to contact?

Have you seen how hard May hits? He smashes packs and runs thru players like they're paper. He's a unit. lever, not so much but May is like Josh Walker with coordination, skill and mobility.

Anyway you're obviously wrong otherwise the people who get paid to sort this stuff out would have followed your advice last week.

 

[Roosurgence]

Have you seen how hard May hits? He smashes packs and runs thru players like they're paper. He's a unit. lever, not so much but May is like Josh Walker with coordination, skill and mobility.

Anyway you're obviously wrong otherwise the people who get paid to sort this stuff out would have followed your advice last week.

You seem very confident that these same people actually are doing the right thing? These same people that are overseeing the constant beltings and regression of a team.

 

[Samsquanch]

Yze, my number 1 choice for somebody we should get to the club gets to audition this week.

Neil Balme has been the catalyst (so it seems to me) at just about every club he's been at following his coaching career. I can't comment on his coaching (i.e. Melbourne) but his management seems to have proactively created transformational outcomes.

 

[ferball]

You seem very confident that these same people actually are doing the right thing? These same people that are overseeing the constant beltings and regression of a team.

Yep. They've got till the end of next year to have shit together. Till then they have my full support. (Barring unacceptable stuff or Rhyce Shaw type Black Swan situations.

 

[Samsquanch]

Something is going on with Powell and Noble.Not sure what it is, but yeah there are plenty of players that have intensity issues and need a spell in the VFL.

It does look like different standards are being applied.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Neil Balme has been the catalyst (so it seems to me) at just about every club he's been at following his coaching career. I can't comment on his coaching (i.e. Melbourne) but his management seems to have proactively created transformational outcomes.

Take em both

 

[Le Grille]

It does look like different standards are being applied.

I think everyone is completely over reacting.

Tom is largely an inside mid, they have tried him outside but he’s not playing flanks and pockets.

So who is he replacing Simpkin, LDU, TT, Taylor, Greenwood, Perez, Lmac JHF. Now there’s room there for an in form and firing Powell but not what on the admittedly small sample size. Get him fit and firing he’s in there and the others move around but I don’t think his afl performances were all that flash

Even in the full games he did play he was fumbly, and out of sorts. It’s probably why he’s was tried outside mid at afl level he either needs to be versatile or so fit he can get to every stoppage(save for rests on the bench). He hasn’t shown that or any of his cleanness that he has last year.

Nobes is trying to develop him no ulterior motive, if Powell can’t handle that (granted I’m only addressing rumours) well he ain’t going to have much of a career

 

[The Dingrel]

Way too early to make a call on Noble. Questions will come next year if there's no improvement.

I like Nobes, and really hope he makes a good go of it. Stability is important and its a little bit difficult for the club. On one hand we saw some promising signs in the side late last year with a first year coach in the seat. Expectations were that we would build on that. So the jury is still out, stability is good but its difficult to award additional years on a coaching contract after we did that repeatedly with Scott, and evidence appears that the teams performance has regressed on last year. Recall, Thompson and even Hardwick had lean years as coaches and their tenure was questioned before becoming premiership coaches. What I'd like to know is where's Roos this year??? Not that I really care, BUT, pretty sure last year he was sitting in the coaches box for games, was at training, and heavily involved in the program. Were those bright spots last year in part due to Roos' guidance and mentorship of a first year coach?
Is this year really the first year of "training wheels off" for Nobes? I don't know the answer to those questions, but worth consideration.

 

[apollo_creed]

We are a rebuilding side and should be super patient and expect 10 goals thumpings, 40 inside 50s and 50-60 points for every game..

Next minute Kayne Turner

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Kayne Turner

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29

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180cm

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71kg

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11.3

3star

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5.6

2star

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5.7

4star

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2.6

3star

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3.5

5star

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150.3

2star

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11.0

3star

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6.8

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4.2

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3.2

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4.8

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picked again. Tom Powell not picked.

Love myself a coach who makes senior players accountable after multiple thumpings and being crap all year.

Think some here need to stop defending the indefensible components of this guy and focus on defending the defendable components in their justification of his role at the helm. Arguments suggesting ‘give him until the end of the year’ might have merit but ignoring the selection decisions and lack of alignment with the young, rebuilding element is just blatant delusion (to fit the preferred narrative) on full display.

Speechless that this is the team we picked after another spanking.

1) show the ability to structure a side in line with modern afl football. Having no structure is not a structure.
2) sort out the selection and pick a side where young players are preferred over underperforming senior players or others that are average list fillers at AFL level.

 

[Waussie]

Just how do you come to that conclusion?

It's nothing more than supposition on your part.

As much as it's a supposition on yours.

Look at their performances, look at them as they head onto the ground, do they look pumped and eager to you.
Do they look like their following any type of game plan.
Do they look like a united team.

No

 

[Waussie]

May I politely question which senior leaders we're talking about?

Cunners? has been absent for obvious reasons but is known as a very professional athlete.

Ziebell? well I haven't heard a bad word about him taking 'slack' and running with it.

Hally? has mentored Tarryn and helped to improve his approach to footy professionalism. Kept pushing for medical diagnoses when he suspected something wasn't right and eventually got the operation he needed to be able to push himself. Has done so and since worked so hard on his running that he's now one of our best.

Turner? I don't rate him, but putting in is the one thing people seem to rate about him.

Simpkin? Works his ass off. No more needed.

McDonald? Another who does a lot of extras and doesn't let up these days, which is what everyone commented when he won the Syd.

Greenwood? Don't know much about him but people speak about these issues as if there are a core of senior players still on the list that preceded him and remain on the list.

Goldy? Don't know much about him.

I daresay that nearly every one of the blokes who took slack as something they can run with is gone from the list, and the vast majority have been gone for a number of years.

Almost everyone else on the list are either young and not 'senior core' or weren't senior under our old coach, or were brought in by the new crew.

I keep hearing on bigfooty that our senior players think they run the show and slack off if they're not micromanaged. I'm struggling to think of who it is they're referring to. Maybe this was the case three years ago but the vast majority of that senior core are long gone.

Pretty sure, Shawry got rid of those he felt didn't put in

 

[LuvtheKangas]

As much as it's a supposition on yours.

Look at their performances, look at them as they head onto the ground, do they look pumped and eager to you.
Do they look like their following any type of game plan.
Do they look like a united team.

No

So, in other words, you're only speculating that he's lost the players, you haven't been told.

It's a pretty serious allegation. You'd need to back it up if you're still asserting it's true.

 

[Ligma]

So, in other words, you're only speculating that he's lost the players, you haven't been told.

It's a pretty serious allegation. You'd need to back it up if you're still asserting it's true.

Oh LTK you are my favourite dilf I mean poster

 

[Waussie]

A

So, in other words, you're only speculating that he's lost the players, you haven't been told.

It's a pretty serious allegation. You'd need to back it up if you're still asserting it's true.

As much as your speculating he hasn't.

 

[Roosurgence]

A

As much as your speculating he hasn't.

If these guys are playing for the coach and giving their all, we may as well fold now.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

A

As much as your speculating he hasn't.

No, I'm not pretending I know either way, and I'm certainly not making a serious allegation.

 

[Roosurgence]

No, I'm not pretending I know either way, and I'm certainly not making a serious accusation.

LOL

It’s a football forum, not a court of law.

Stop with the drama.

 

[Sillygit]

A

As much as your speculating he hasn't.

Gotta prove that hypothesis theat you're putting forward, not someone else disprove it.