No club has ever started a season 0-3 and finished top 4 in the 18-team era

[Freomaniac]

In 2017 we started 0-6 and finished 6th.

Starting losses/x = ladder position/x
X = 2
∆ Swans started 0-3 and finished 3rd

Check mate atheists.

I remember that 2017 season.

Swans 2 losses after round 7 until finals were hawks. Both 6 point losses too.

 

[My Tilly]

Crows won't make finals.
Too many teams have improved in the meantime. St Kilda, Geelong, Fremantle, GWS, Sydney, Carlton, Port Adelaide, Gold Coast.

Melbourne look the same side as last year and will make finals again.

Western Bulldogs, Adelaide, Collingwood, Brisbane . . . . they haven't improved at all. They look worse and some will be sitting 0-2 & 0-3.

 

[Roobs321]

West Coast had a dodgy start in early 1992, when they were 2-1-3 after seven rounds.

Some of our worst 90s form came in the first several weeks of '92, still outside the top 6 in Rnd10, and entered finals in 4th.

R1 - Bye
R2 - lose to Sydney by 3
R3 - beat Saints by 33
R4 - lose to Geelong by 24 (at home, conceded 95pts in 1st half)
R5 - draw Brisbane (first time they hadn't lost to us)
R6 - beat Tigers by 1
R7 - lose to Roys by 20

So by end R7, we'd almost failed to beat any of the bottom 4 from '91. West Coast won just as many games (21) in '91 as they did, combined!

We are failing to win in places like the SCG, Carrara, North Hobart. i.e. places that Vic teams would have to travel to as well.

 

[JackOutback]

Several teams are staring down the barrel of an 0-3 start right now. Collingwood are already there, Richmond will likely get there later today with a probable loss to Port, Brisbane will get there if they lose to Collingwood on Thursday night, the 0-2 Crows have a daunting trip to Perth to face the undefeated Dockers next week and could end up 0-3, North will most likely end up 0-3 as they are facing Carton next week and one of West Coast or the Bulldogs will probably get there too considering they face each other next week.

It's entirely possible that six teams will start the 2024 season 0-3.

You’re making an assumption that the Eagles will lose to GWS today.

 

[Freomaniac]

The Lions, Tigers and the Pies all started the 2024 season with a record of 0-3. The Crows, Roos, Hawks and Eagles may all follow suit this weekend. Would be pretty crazy to have seven teams starting the season 0-3.

I really hope no side goes 0-10

 

[FreoGirl]

That’s bad news for Adelaide…

 

[Big Jell]

I thought we did it in 2007?

Yep we did. Close the thread lol

Mind you the Cats turnaround was even more impressive that season, and they won the flag.

Mate Geelong started 6 and 2 in 2007 only losing to Bulldogs by 20 and Hawthorn by 4. Thats not a resurgence and they absolutely smacked teams that season including a record breaking Grand Final margin

 

[PhatBoy]

Mate Geelong started 6 and 2 in 2007 only losing to Bulldogs by 20 and Hawthorn by 4. Thats not a resurgence and they absolutely smacked teams that season including a record breaking Grand Final margin

we started 2-3, so that’s not possible.

We lost to Hawthorn, Dogs and North inside the opening 5 rounds.

 

[SC_Power]

In my best Richie Benaud voice,

Port Adelaide started Owen Twoooo in Twoooo thousand and Two… and then proceeded to loooose only twooo more H&A games to finish top of the ladder, a lovely four (that) games inside the top four.


(before choking in the finals yes I know, as is our wont)

 

[Freomaniac]

Absolutely. Two key points to bear in mind are:

- the season is longer than it has ever been, both in number of matches and total.time (with both Brisbane and Collingwood having extra week to rest)

- the AFL has increasingly weighted the early season fixture so that good teams play other good teams, bad teams get wins against bad teams, etc. Collingwood are 0-2 precisely because they played two likely contenders. Brisbane also played a top 4 opponent and a mid table team (last year) away. The flipside is those teams have an easier run later in the year.

What it means is that it is more likely than it used to be that a good team starts 0-3, and if they do they have more games to catch up, more rest and time to reshuffle.tactically, and more easy games coming.

So comparing to historical records isn't that meaningful, as we know from last year.

good points....

once we have a 24 game regualr season, I wont be shocked if some sides still make finals despite a 0-2 or 0-3 or even a 0-4 record.

Swans were 0-6 in 2018 and made finals with a 14 wins and 8 loss record.

not exactly a 0-3 record, your mob carlton was like 3 and 7 or had a 3 win and 8 loss record and made finals with 13 wins, 9 losses and a draw.

 

[Roobs321]

In my best Richie Benaud voice,

Port Adelaide started Owen Twoooo in Twoooo thousand and Two… and then proceeded to loooose only twooo more H&A games to finish top of the ladder, a lovely four (that) games inside the top four.


(before choking in the finals yes I know, as is our wont)

It was exactly the same in 2003 as well

 

[Roobs321]

good points....

Swans were 0-6 in 2018 and made finals with a 14 wins and 8 loss record.

That was 2017

 

[Tall poppy Syndrome]

In my best Richie Benaud voice,

Port Adelaide started Owen Twoooo in Twoooo thousand and Two… and then proceeded to loooose only twooo more H&A games to finish top of the ladder, a lovely four (that) games inside the top four.


(before choking in the finals yes I know, as is our wont)

Your post was absolutely maaarvellous.

 

[Billy ray]

In my best Richie Benaud voice,

Port Adelaide started Owen Twoooo in Twoooo thousand and Two… and then proceeded to loooose only twooo more H&A games to finish top of the ladder, a lovely four (that) games inside the top four.


(before choking in the finals yes I know, as is our wont)

super stuff that