No Oppo Supporters Non Bulldog Footy Talk - Bulldogs only - Part 3

[Leon]

Davis spoke to Daisy, very emotional. If he wasn’t such a flog onfield I’d almost feel sorry for him.

*Insert Jerry Seinfeld “That’s A Shame” GIF*

 

[Bont2Bruce]

To score 37pts?

To score 3 goals and 7 points you mean?

 

[Yojimbo]

Nothing personal Y-J. (Though, perhaps it was a bit rough tagging you. Apologies.)

It's just a gentle reminder to us all that fantasy points don't actually mean that much.
Definitely worth posting when the side that just lost a grand final by 15 goals had the top 3 in AF points.

No offence taken dog-watch that was a much better game from the Tigers they only just crept over 300 Possessions
against Brisbane and Geelong, but 361 was just under their season average. When I gauge an unseen game by the
Fantasy points I use the number of players who score 100 points or more in this case three each and then I scroll
down the list until I get to seventy points this was a no contest win to Richmond. Until a team learns to hold up
the magic mirror to an opposition they will be doomed to repeat the mistakes over and over. In the players under
182 cm GWS have only seven while the Tigers are the outlier with eighteen of which ten played GWS played three
of their arsenal of seven, know your enemy as Rage Against The Machine sang.

 

[Slack Nang]

Toby Greene going the gouge again



Did not find the footage but found the perfect song to describe this... um, person.... I guess

 

[Northernsoul74]

It’s been a great day. You can’t buy or create a team. No heart and soul.

 

[ab_83]

 

[Virgin Dog]

Toby Greene going the gouge again



Did not find the footage but found the perfect song to describe this... um, person.... I guess

 

[Northernsoul74]

Toby Greene’s dad faces court after ‘headbutting’ female cop post-Grand Final

Toby Greene’s dad faces court for ‘headbutting’ female cop after Grand Final

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Wizard17]

Toby Greene’s dad faces court after ‘headbutting’ female cop post-Grand Final

Toby Greene’s dad faces court for ‘headbutting’ female cop after Grand Final

www.foxsports.com.au

Proof that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. They are all grubs.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Toby Greene’s dad faces court after ‘headbutting’ female cop post-Grand Final

Toby Greene’s dad faces court for ‘headbutting’ female cop after Grand Final

www.foxsports.com.au

Media deciding to sink the boots into Toby, a few weeks too late.

 

[Mr. Walker]

Hard to feel sorry for Toby but seems there may be reasons for his attitude.

 

[Yojimbo]

2019 The Finals (A stroll through the jungle of life) :

Grand Final:
Richmond 1,632 Points versus GWS 1,478 Points

Preliminary Finals:
Richmond 1,386 Points versus Geelong 1,487 Points
GWS 1,522 Points versus Collingwood 1,576 Points

Semi Finals:
Geelong 1,544 Points versus West Coast 1,363 Points
GWS 1,337 Points versus Brisbane 1,422 Points

Qualifying and Elimination Finals:
Collingwood 1,834 Points versus Geelong 1,410 Points
Richmond 1,411 Points versus Brisbane 1,515 Points
West Coast 1,695 Points versus Essendon 1,405 Points
GWS 1,588 Points versus Western Bulldogs 1,321 Points

Now winners in the left hand column, I did break every game into players 1 to 6, 7 to 12, 13 to 18, and 19 to 22,
but this is not a self help class and I could not be stuffed typing out all the data. Needless to say you don't need
to dig too deep to find the GOLD. Yes that is right GWS made the "Grand Final" on the back of one volume win
for the entire series against us. Richmond did not have a volume win until the grand final and as they say in a
crappy song "They saved their best to last".

 

[dogwatch]

2019 The Finals (A stroll through the jungle of life) :

Grand Final:
Richmond 1,632 Points versus GWS 1,478 Points

Preliminary Finals:
Richmond 1,386 Points versus Geelong 1,487 Points
GWS 1,522 Points versus Collingwood 1,576 Points

Semi Finals:
Geelong 1,544 Points versus West Coast 1,363 Points
GWS 1,337 Points versus Brisbane 1,422 Points

Qualifying and Elimination Finals:
Collingwood 1,834 Points versus Geelong 1,410 Points
Richmond 1,411 Points versus Brisbane 1,515 Points
West Coast 1,695 Points versus Essendon 1,405 Points
GWS 1,588 Points versus Western Bulldogs 1,321 Points

Now winners in the left hand column, I did break every game into players 1 to 6, 7 to 12, 13 to 18, and 19 to 22,
but this is not a self help class and I could not be stuffed typing out all the data. Needless to say you don't need
to dig too deep to find the GOLD. Yes that is right GWS made the "Grand Final" on the back of one volume win
for the entire series against us. Richmond did not have a volume win until the grand final and as they say in a
crappy song "They saved their best to last".

Hmmm ... only 5 of the 9 winners had more AF points than their opponents. What does that tell us Y-J?

 

[wayniac]

It should now be known as the '89 Grand Final.

Apologies to Hawthorn and Geelong.

 

[Yojimbo]

Hmmm ... only 5 of the 9 winners had more AF points than their opponents. What does that tell us Y-J?

Plenty dog-watch, it is enhanced when you include the segmentation of 1 to 6, 7 to 12, 13 to 18, and of course
19 to 22, but why make it educational. It is a sad reflection on the state of the game and also a window on a
side like Richmond whose swarm and work rate without the ball and personnel is very different to most teams
in the competition. I will include the Grand Final segmentation just as a small taste dog-watch, but of course
there are other factors at play.

Richmond:
Players 1 to 6 = 595
Players 7 to 12 = 481
Players 13 to 18 = 388
Players 19 to 22 = 168

Versus

GWS:
Players 1 to 6 = 623
Players 7 to 12 = 409
Players 13 to 18 = 327
Players 19 to 22 = 119

so 1,632 versus 1,478, the GWS was far from the worse volumes achieved in the finals series, but the way they
played into Richmond's hands and invited pressure and turnover was the worst. Their personnel stank they
played injured players and were way too tall they made Jason Castagna look like Usain Bolt pity he did not
wear his lucky underpants in front of goal. Teams pay coaches plural a lot of money for what ?

 

[weltschmerz]

GCS gets a big pile of draft picks for the next three years, so more kids can go through the revolving door.

 

[Sentinel]

Do they also get Jarryd Lyons back, who they delisted last season because he had a tiff with the coach, and went on to collect 2.5x more Brownlow votes than the best Suns player?

 

[Mr. Walker]

GCS gets a big pile of draft picks for the next three years, so more kids can go through the revolving door.

So the GCS who beat us this year get mega concessions from the AFL and we get nothing. Situation normal at AFL house.

 

[Ash1337]

Think this is the last chance for gold coast to improve and potentially make finals before Tasmania's provisional license is granted in the next 5 years.

 

[_M_16_]

So many people from other teams complaining, but they forget virtually almost every team in the league has received a priority pick or two at some stage. Some of those led to clubs getting a premiership. Gold Coast does need help, stuffed it up at the beginning and need to half start over.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

We need a competitive Gold Coast, look what a leg up it was for the top 4 sides in 2016, due to playing Essendon twice.

If you got to play Gold Coast late in the season,it was a percentage booster.

 

[King Harold]

So many people from other teams complaining, but they forget virtually almost every team in the league has received a priority pick or two at some stage. Some of those led to clubs getting a premiership. Gold Coast does need help, stuffed it up at the beginning and need to half start over.

How many teams have had priority picks ?
Wouldn’t think many ?

 

[Bont2Bruce]

How many teams have had priority picks ?
Wouldn’t think many ?

3 = Carlton, Melbourne
2 = Collingwood, Fremantle, Hawthorn, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs
1 = Brisbane*, Richmond, West Coast

* = end of first round rather than start of first round


Full list since 1997 (start of first round, unless stated):

1997 Melbourne (Johnstone)
1999 Collingwood (Fraser)
1999 Fremantle (Hasleby)
2000 St Kilda (Riewoldt)
2001 Fremantle (Hodge, pick traded away to Hawthorn)
2001 St Kilda (Ball)
2001 West Coast (Judd)
2003 Western Bulldogs (Cooney)
2003 Carlton (Walker)
2003 Melbourne (Sylvia)
2004 Richmond (Deledio)
2004 Hawthorn (Roughead)
2004 Western Bulldogs (Griffen)
2005 Carlton (Murphy)
2005 Collingwood (Thomas)
2005 Hawthorn (Ellis)
2007 Carlton (Kreuzer)
2009 Melbourne (Scully)
2016 Brisbane (Hayward, end of first round, pick traded away ultimately ending with Sydney)

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Given the assistance that Hawthorn have received via priority picks, it is a bit rich for Kennett to have said this today:

 

[King Harold]

3 = Carlton, Melbourne
2 = Collingwood, Fremantle, Hawthorn, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs
1 = Brisbane*, Richmond, West Coast

* = end of first round rather than start of first round


Full list since 1997 (start of first round, unless stated):

1997 Melbourne (Johnstone)
1999 Collingwood (Fraser)
1999 Fremantle (Hasleby)
2000 St Kilda (Riewoldt)
2001 Fremantle (Hodge, pick traded away to Hawthorn)
2001 St Kilda (Ball)
2001 West Coast (Judd)
2003 Western Bulldogs (Cooney)
2003 Carlton (Walker)
2003 Melbourne (Sylvia)
2004 Richmond (Deledio)
2004 Hawthorn (Roughead)
2004 Western Bulldogs (Griffen)
2005 Carlton (Murphy)
2005 Collingwood (Thomas)
2005 Hawthorn (Ellis)
2007 Carlton (Kreuzer)
2009 Melbourne (Scully)
2016 Brisbane (Hayward, end of first round, pick traded away ultimately ending with Sydney)

Thanks for the info , amazing !
So all the above got help because of being perennial bottom teams ?