No Oppo Supporters Non Bulldog Footy Talk - Bulldogs only - Part 5

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Carlton Social Club, Members and Guests

 

[Iamspock]

How does Oliver keep his spot?
6 touches, 2 turnovers, 1 clearance, 1 tackle, 1 free against and 47m gained in over a half of football.

He's laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[maddog37]

We don't have a great record against port or the Hawks.

Mind you, we didn't have a great record against Melbourne either.....

Or Geelong

 

[stevieg1969]

Neal-Bullen wants to go back to SA at year’s end. What a time to follow the Dees!

 

[Unorth]

The Dees BF board being obsessed with us and not seeing the obvious mess festering in their own backyard until it’s
too late is pretty funny honestly. Karmic.

Deenasty…Not so much.

 

[spindles11]

Loving all the rumours coming out of Melbourne. Was always weird when they made a thread on their board about us. Now it looks like they’re in trouble and I’m here for it

 

[grassman75]

The Dees BF board being obsessed with us and not seeing the obvious mess festering in their own backyard until it’s
too late is pretty funny honestly. Karmic.

Deenasty…Not so much.

They really aren’t Free from de mire

 

[W W Biscuit]

Loving all the rumours coming out of Melbourne. Was always weird when they made a thread on their board about us. Now it looks like they’re in trouble and I’m here for it

Buddha punishes graceless winners.

 

[Dogs Rule]

You ready (for the s***storm) Dees?

 

[Fossie 32]

Loving all the rumours coming out of Melbourne. Was always weird when they made a thread on their board about us. Now it looks like they’re in trouble and I’m here for it

They have been saying on the news Petracca's family are not happy with the Dees.......

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Talk about disingenuously burying the lead.

Won't somebody think of the Auskickers and Shitkickers of suburban clubs and not the legacy media and their reliance on the rivers of filthy lucre that gambling ads bring in.

 

[Next Waiting]

Talk about burying the lead.

Won't somebody think of the Auskickers and Shitkickers of suburban clubs and not the legacy media and their reliance on the rivers of filthy lucre that gamblings ads bring in.

But an additional $108m on the backs of and in the mouths of growing children.

 

[Next Waiting]

Was Lachie Hunter a trojan horse that we wheeled up to Gate 2?

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Was Lachie Hunter a trojan horse that we wheeled up to Gate 2?

Will if he was, it worked. Good on you Hunter taking one for the team.

 

[bresker]

Things are so bad at Melbourne that the CEO felt he had to release an official statement on the matter.

Melbourne release statement on future of Christian Petracca

The star Demon's future was brought into question this week.

www.zerohanger.com

If it was my club, it wouldn't help quell my fears. It's an acknowledgement that things are f**ked and the season isn't even over!

The weather turns bad at the weekend, are Melbourne at the G? Can they break the sub 10,000 crowd figure?

 

[Next Waiting]

They have been saying on the news Petracca's family are not happy with the Dees.......

Sounds like what he and his family need is a club that puts the players well-being first. An empathetic coach and a nurturing environment with excellent facilities. A new journey.

 

[dogwatch]

Talk about disingenuously burying the lead.

Won't somebody think of the Auskickers and Shitkickers of suburban clubs and not the legacy media and their reliance on the rivers of filthy lucre that gambling ads bring in.

The lobby is in full swing. Like the tobacco industry, the asbestos industry, the fossil fuel industry and the liquor industry before them.

Major parties are in their pockets too. That's where a portion of the dirty money usually ends up. ("1 for you, 9 for us, 1 for you, 9 for us, 1 for you ...")

Gambling and alcohol lobby plough $2.165 million into political parties, up 40% from previous year

Alcohol and gambling companies and their lobby groups donated $2.165 million to Australia’s major political parties in 2021-22 representing a 40 per cent increase on the previous year, an analysis of disclosure returns published today by the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) shows.

fare.org.au

No wonder the major parties are dragging their feet over radical reforms to political donations. They make me sick. They make us all sick.

 

[Fossie 32]

Sounds like what he and his family need is a club that puts the players well-being first. An empathetic coach and a nurturing environment with excellent facilities. A new journey.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

The lobby is in full swing. Like the tobacco industry, the asbestos industry, the fossil fuel industry and the liquor industry before them.

Major parties are in their pockets too. That's where a portion of the dirty money usually ends up. ("1 for you, 9 for us, 1 for you, 9 for us, 1 for you ...")

Gambling and alcohol lobby plough $2.165 million into political parties, up 40% from previous year

Alcohol and gambling companies and their lobby groups donated $2.165 million to Australia’s major political parties in 2021-22 representing a 40 per cent increase on the previous year, an analysis of disclosure returns published today by the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) shows.

fare.org.au

No wonder the major parties are dragging their feet over radical reforms to political donations. They make me sick. They make us all sick.

Non footy talk tangent.

Until this nation has a grown up conversation (something we're historically averse to) about actually funding political parties at the expense of the current system in place where it's an opaque pay for access. Then we will continue to be at the mercy of these campaigns who only ever present binary choices to a public that doesn't fully grasp the surface meaning of the anti-whatever lobby campaign that they are being bombarded with. Let alone the actual subtext of its actual intent. The easiest thing to get people behind in this country is a slick anti- (Mining tax. Reconciliation etc.) scare campaign. In this case it's the children or sporting clubs, but typically they're all about the jobs! of a tiny proportion but noisily influential segment of the workforce. It's why referendums more often than not fail.

In the meantime, foreign companies will continue to pull the wool over the eyes of and pillage the resources of the nation. All the while minimising or campaigning against the level of tax that they pay to the people who actually own those resources. But sure, a few jobs in the Kimberly or some such.

One only needs to look at the difference in scale of the sovereign wealth funds of two resource rich nations in Norway and Australia. To understand the level that politicians have allowed these multinational companies to plunder this country. Australia's future fund sits somewhere around $260 billion. Sounds great right? Norways Norge Bank fund sits at $1.6 trillion and generated a profit last year that nearly eclipsed that of this nations total fund. Now let it sink in that fund is for 5.6 million people and the differences become even starker.

A pox on all political houses.

...Sorry Australia.

 

[Turtleman3]

Non footy talk tangent.

Until this nation has a grown up conversation (something we're historically averse to) about actually funding political parties at the expense of the current system in place where it's an opaque pay for access. Then we will continue to be at the mercy of these campaigns who only ever present binary choices to a public that doesn't fully grasp the surface meaning of the anti-whatever lobby campaign that they are being bombarded with. Let alone the actual subtext of its actual intent. The easiest thing to get people behind in this country is a slick anti- (Mining tax. Reconciliation etc.) scare campaign. In this case it's the children or sporting clubs, but typically they're all about the jobs! of a tiny proportion but noisily influential segment of the workforce. It's why referendums more often than not fail.

In the meantime, foreign companies will continue to pull the wool over the eyes of and pillage the resources of the nation. All the while minimising or campaigning against the level of tax that they pay to the people who actually own those resources. But sure, a few jobs in the Kimberly or some such.

One only needs to look at the difference in scale of the sovereign wealth funds of two resource rich nations in Norway and Australia. To understand the level that politicians have allowed these multinational companies to plunder this country. Australia's future fund sits somewhere around $260 billion. Sounds great right? Norways Norge Bank fund sits at $1.6 trillion and generated a profit last year that nearly eclipsed that of this nations total fund. Now let it sink in that fund is for 5.6 million people and the differences become even starker.

A pox on all political houses.

...Sorry Australia.

Yet many can see it in the USA with the sway the NRA has on political discourse but not here with the influence certain segments of society have.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

 

[Next Waiting]

Non footy talk tangent.

Until this nation has a grown up conversation (something we're historically averse to) about actually funding political parties at the expense of the current system in place where it's an opaque pay for access. Then we will continue to be at the mercy of these campaigns who only ever present binary choices to a public that doesn't fully grasp the surface meaning of the anti-whatever lobby campaign that they are being bombarded with. Let alone the actual subtext of its actual intent. The easiest thing to get people behind in this country is a slick anti- (Mining tax. Reconciliation etc.) scare campaign. In this case it's the children or sporting clubs, but typically they're all about the jobs! of a tiny proportion but noisily influential segment of the workforce. It's why referendums more often than not fail.

In the meantime, foreign companies will continue to pull the wool over the eyes of and pillage the resources of the nation. All the while minimising or campaigning against the level of tax that they pay to the people who actually own those resources. But sure, a few jobs in the Kimberly or some such.

One only needs to look at the difference in scale of the sovereign wealth funds of two resource rich nations in Norway and Australia. To understand the level that politicians have allowed these multinational companies to plunder this country. Australia's future fund sits somewhere around $260 billion. Sounds great right? Norways Norge Bank fund sits at $1.6 trillion and generated a profit last year that nearly eclipsed that of this nations total fund. Now let it sink in that fund is for 5.6 million people and the differences become even starker.

A pox on all political houses.

...Sorry Australia.

My response to this stimulus is similar to the vexed issue of free speech.

The problem is not what lobby groups are lobbying for necessarily just as the problem with free speech is not necessarily what is said.

Both the problem and the solution lie within the gap between stimulus and response.

A well educated, critical thinking responder is likely to have a very different response to one who has been conditioned to respond in a certain way.....or have allowed themselves to be conditioned.

At every step, people have a choice in how they react to something.

To not know, or at the very least, to not question whether something someone says or does is intended to manipulate you to a particular end, or to surrender willingly the capacity to critically evaluate, is a source of great disappointment to me. Not surprising, but disappointing nonetheless.

One of the reasons I like footy, or sport in general, is that I can surrender any rationality or critical judgement in place of blind faith and unfettered parochial fervour. It's a very human thing. But I'm aware of it and it's basically inconsequential.

Lobby groups and politics have real consequences. They are not environments in which we should surrender our capacity to think critically or allow ourselves to be blinded by parochialism or tribalism.

 

[H Dolphin]

.... Australia's future fund sits somewhere around $260 billion. Sounds great right? Norways Norge Bank fund sits at $1.6 trillion and generated a profit last year that nearly eclipsed that of this nations total fund. Now let it sink in that fund is for 5.6 million people and the differences become even starker.
....

Is that you, Reginald Francis ("Rex") ?

 

[bullish23]

Thought Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

’s comment on Trac (360) were the most telling. Basically said he needs to go and indicated many not happy with his behaviour in taking things public.

Trac requesting a trade cannot be ruled out and I’d probably wager it happens.

 

[Next Waiting]

Thought Jordan Lewis’s comment on Trac (360) were the most telling. Basically said he needs to go and indicated many not happy with his behaviour in taking things public.

Trac requesting a trade cannot be ruled out and I’d probably wager it happens.

Welcome Trac