No Oppo Supporters Non Bulldog Footy Talk - Bulldogs only - Part 5

[Mojorisin]

Thought Jordan Lewis’s comment on Trac (360) were the most telling. Basically said he needs to go and indicated many not happy with his behaviour in taking things public.

Trac requesting a trade cannot be ruled out and I’d probably wager it happens.

I can't see Melbourne letting him go even if he did, much like with us and Dunkley/Essendon.

 

[bullish23]

I can't see Melbourne letting him go even if he did, much like with us and Dunkley/Essendon.

Maybe but the similarities to 2014 are there I reckon. Might be the Trac or the Coach…

 

[geoffjennings79]

Non footy talk tangent.

Until this nation has a grown up conversation (something we're historically averse to) about actually funding political parties at the expense of the current system in place where it's an opaque pay for access. Then we will continue to be at the mercy of these campaigns who only ever present binary choices to a public that doesn't fully grasp the surface meaning of the anti-whatever lobby campaign that they are being bombarded with. Let alone the actual subtext of its actual intent. The easiest thing to get people behind in this country is a slick anti- (Mining tax. Reconciliation etc.) scare campaign. In this case it's the children or sporting clubs, but typically they're all about the jobs! of a tiny proportion but noisily influential segment of the workforce. It's why referendums more often than not fail.

In the meantime, foreign companies will continue to pull the wool over the eyes of and pillage the resources of the nation. All the while minimising or campaigning against the level of tax that they pay to the people who actually own those resources. But sure, a few jobs in the Kimberly or some such.

One only needs to look at the difference in scale of the sovereign wealth funds of two resource rich nations in Norway and Australia. To understand the level that politicians have allowed these multinational companies to plunder this country. Australia's future fund sits somewhere around $260 billion. Sounds great right? Norways Norge Bank fund sits at $1.6 trillion and generated a profit last year that nearly eclipsed that of this nations total fund. Now let it sink in that fund is for 5.6 million people and the differences become even starker.

A pox on all political houses.

...Sorry Australia.

Love the Norwegian example, but taxation structure there is one this country will never implement, regardless of party/ies in govt.

With a wealth tax, bracket tax, etc, they pay higher upfront taxes when employed, but the trade off is better support when requiring welfare/health/pension support. Simplistic summary, I know, they just approach it all from a completely different perspective.

Then as you say, there's also their completely different approach to creating and managing a national sovereign wealth fund... which dwarfs ours, yet multinational companies continue to do business quite happily, as they still profit handsomely... just not obscenely. Something Gina and her sycophants, and Rupert, and Dutton and Albo and their ilk would all baulk at.

As you say, a pox on all their houses... of parliament, of personal abodes, etc.

Viva la revolution - if only.

 

[Mojorisin]

Maybe but the similarities to 2014 are there I reckon. Might be the Trac or the Coach…

Hopefully it takes them in the opposite direction then it took us.

 

[Next Waiting]

Maybe but the similarities to 2014 are there I reckon. Might be the Trac or the Coach…

Trac

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Is that you, Reginald Francis ("Rex") ?

Yes. Comrade.

Love the Norwegian example, but taxation structure there is one this country will never implement, regardless of party/ies in govt.

With a wealth tax, bracket tax, etc, they pay higher upfront taxes when employed, but the trade off is better support when requiring welfare/health/pension support. Simplistic summary, I know, they just approach it all from a completely different perspective.

That sounds like a dystopia socialist nightmare.

And please stop it. Simplistic summaries are exclusively my domain

Then as you say, there's also their completely different approach to creating and managing a national sovereign wealth fund... which dwarfs ours, yet multinational companies continue to do business quite happily, as they still profit handsomely... just not obscenely. Something Gina and her sycophants, and Rupert, and Dutton and Albo and their ilk would all baulk at.

Thats why I mentioned Norway. They seem to navigate the threats of Multi-National companies without too much difficulty.

We on the other hand fold quicker than a camp chair at the mere hint of them pulling out.

As you say, a pox on all their houses... of parliament, of personal abodes, etc.

Viva la revolution - if only.

Yes. Comrade.

 

[Bulldogs85]

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[dogwatch]

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But even if he was he'd be asking for a trade right now so it wouldn't have done them any good.

 

[MYOB]

Carlton have named 5 debutants in their squad

 

[Mojorisin]

Carlton have named 5 debutants in their squad

Didn't have much other choice with the injuries out of last week. It will make the game against Eagles interesting ladder wise.

 

[King Harold]

Can someone photoshop Trak and Butters in our gear.

I need to see them in it before I can make up my mind .

 

[Dogs 13]

Carlton have named 5 debutants in their squad

Hope they have enough time to get their frocks

 

[go_sports_team]

Can someone photoshop Trak and Butters in our gear.

I need to see them in it before I can make up my mind .

Looks good to me

 

[ossie_21]

Can someone photoshop Trak and Butters in our gear.

I need to see them in it before I can make up my mind .

I will not be taking any questions.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

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[Lindsay_Gilbee]

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100% agree with him here. Shocking that they changed the rules, now they’re changing them back because Essendon are sooking.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

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I'm with him here.

Like he said, imagine we'd lost Jamarra the same way.

We'd be complaining that the AFL was picking on us because we're not a ''big'' club.

 

[Mojorisin]

100% agree with him here. Shocking that they changed the rules, now they’re changing them back because Essendon are sooking.

The afl love a good backflip. Probably the most reactionary competition in the world.

 

[Bulldogs85]

I'm with him here.

Like he said, imagine we'd lost Jamarra the same way.

We'd be complaining that the AFL was picking on us because we're not a ''big'' club.

Well maybe clubs shouldn’t have had a sook about us getting JUH only have themselves to blame

 

[Bulldogs85]

The afl love a good backflip. Probably the most reactionary competition in the world.

Blame the clubs that were having a sook about us getting JUH it was always an overreaction from the AFL changing the rule.

 

[bobs head soup]

Blame the clubs that were having a sook about us getting JUH it was always an overreaction from the AFL changing the rule.

If the AFL had never changed the rule, there's a good chance we'd have matched with Lual and missed out on Freijah.

Early days yet but that's looking like a win for us too.

AFL.

 

[dogwatch]

If the AFL had never changed the rule, there's a good chance we'd have matched with Lual and missed out on Freijah.

Early days yet but that's looking like a win for us too.

AFL.

I thought Freijah was high on our draft board regardless. He was our first selection after we matched for Croft. A classic "can't believe he slid to our pick!"

So we might have matched Lual and still taken Freijah.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Well maybe clubs shouldn’t have had a sook about us getting JUH only have themselves to blame

Yep.

Unfortunate that Melbourne was the victim here.

Pity it wasn't a ''big'' club.

 

[bobs head soup]

I thought Freijah was high on our draft board regardless. He was our first selection after we matched for Croft. A classic "can't believe he slid to our pick!"

So we might have matched Lual and still taken Freijah.

Maybe, but the pick we used to take Freijah would've been what we used to match with Lual.

Would Freijah have still been available by our next pick? Possibly, but he was on a few club's radar.

 

[Mojorisin]

Maybe, but the pick we used to take Freijah would've been what we used to match with Lual.

Would Freijah have still been available by our next pick? Possibly, but he was on a few club's radar.

We picked L.Smith only a couple picks later so I dare say we would've picked up Friejah at that pick and a ruckman later on.