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Pear supporters starting to fly their right to the VFL to wear prison bars in Grand Final as Collingwood can’t make it.
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How are GWS -51 at home?Crows have won something this year - best free kick differential
Vocal footy fans are influencing matches with an umpiring analysis revealing clubs playing in front of partisan home crowds are more than 100 free kicks better off this season.
Collingwood coach Craig McRae’s declaration that Dan McStay “would’ve been paid (a 50m penalty) at the MCG” on Friday night sparked intrigue over whether clubs travelling interstate get a raw deal.
McRae doubled-down this week saying “it was real” – and the data backs up the premiership coach.
Adelaide has been gifted the best run in front of their home fans when compared to their free kick tallies on the road.
The Crows have won the overall tally by 13 when clubs travel to Adelaide Oval to face them. They have lost the count by 29 on the road – an overall difference of +42.
Former Crows coach Neil Craig dubbed their supporters “the 19th man” in 2008. Privately, some umpires call it the “roar factor” and concede that parochial fans do impact their decision-making on a subconscious level.
On current ladder positions non-Victorian clubs would host all four finals in week one and potentially all eight finals until the premiership decider at the MCG.
It could be just the fourth time in 61 years that none of Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon or Richmond feature in September.
Finals-bound clubs Fremantle (+17) and Sydney (+13) came out strongly.
FREE KICK BREAKDOWN
* Home crowd defined as hosting an interstate club or Geelong’s home games at GMHBA Stadium
TEAM HOME CROWD FREES AWAY CROWD FREES DIFFERENCE Adelaide +13 -29 +42 Brisbane +20 +24 -4 Carlton +5 +11 -6 Collingwood +5 +7 -2 Essendon +12 +9 +3 Fremantle +18 +1 +17 Geelong 0 -32 +32 Gold Coast +46 +18 +28 GWS -51 -6 -45 Hawthorn -2 -11 +9 Melbourne -10 -15 +5 North Melbourne +14 +3 +11 Port Adelaide -1 -8 +7 Richmond 16 -37 +21 St Kilda -9 +5 -14 Sydney +18 +5 +13 West Coast +14 -8 +22 Western Bulldogs -20 +8 -28
In a season of tight margins crowd noise could prove decisive in the race for the premiership.
The analysis excluded all neutral matches, only focusing on clubs hosting matches from interstate or in Geelong’s case all of its games at GMHBA Stadium.
The Cats have broken even for free kicks down the highway, but lost the count by 32 when playing outside of Victoria.
That has delivered them a +32 free kick swing when playing in front of their local crowd.
The biggest outlier was Greater Western Sydney, which has lost the free kick count by 51 at home and by only six when travelling.
But the Giants also average the fewest fans at their matches (12,422). Melbourne president Kate Roffey also suggested the effect was real when she urged Demons members to replicate the Collingwood Army.
BIGGEST WINNERS
Adelaide +42
Geelong +32
Gold Coast +28
West Coast +22
Richmond +21
Fremantle +17
Sydney +13
“We’re on a mission to actually be louder and more obnoxious,” Roffey said.
“We need to be better at supporting our players and getting those umpire whistles to go our way.”
In 2017 former St Kilda coach Alan Richardson dubbed the effect the “noise of affirmation” after the Saints lost the count 8-23 against the Eagles in Perth.
“Our game is very grey, particularly from an umpiring perspective … with issues like holding the ball.
“You go in there (asking yourself) did he duck? Did he have prior opportunity? Did he dispose of the ball correctly? The umpire has to weigh all this up.
“And then there’s this incredible noise that potentially gives the umpire some form of affirmation. Or if you’re an opposition player there is no noise, there is no affirmation that the umpire is receiving.
“My experience is the no calls that are the bigger issue. I got really frustrated on the weekend and it’s the non-calls. That’s the point I’m trying to make about this ‘noise’, the influence it has on the umpires.”
Geelong coach Chris Scott said back then that the Eagles had perennially got a golden run at home.
“It’s not just one or two years. It’s over a long period of time,” Scott said.
“And I think the umpires, to their credit, when you make that point, they agree with you.
“Maybe they haven’t publicly and … I might be stretching it, but my understanding is that when there’s a big crowd reaction, it’s human nature for you to respond and I think that they acknowledge it’s real.
“It’s not conscious but it might be a subconscious reaction.”
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What a joke of an organisation and this blokes a bumbling idiot
Do you think the best people for the job are being appointed now?The country is ****ed when the best person for the job is overlooked in favour of an inferior person on the AFL's basis full stop. Fair enough if the person is as good or better than the current commentator but given the AFL's history that would be highly questionable.
What happened to TV Stations and Radio stations being in charge of who they hire and fire given they pay the commentators wages not the AFL. With TV and radio it's all about the ratings and viewers/listeners that enables them to sell advertising.
Nah **** off AFL stick to stuffing up the game like you have and keep your noses out where they're not needed.
Well it's all about the ratings so their employers seem to think so.Do you think the best people for the job are being appointed now?
There's a gravy train to rideWell it's all about the ratings so their employers seem to think so.
Its a shame this didnt apply to the Olympics.The country is ****ed when the best person for the job is overlooked in favour of an inferior person on the AFL's basis full stop.
They have the lowest home crowds so the VAFL umpires have no qualms about playing favourites without upsetting a small number of supporters.How are GWS -51 at home?
Are their supporters booing them?
Curnow would have more than most whole teams.I just want a pure goals.behinds from free kicks stat
I'd like to know how often we score from a free inside 50 compared to other clubs
They don't have any power to insist on this. Let's face it, the media companies are paying them, not the other way around.The country is ****ed when the best person for the job is overlooked in favour of an inferior person on the AFL's basis full stop. Fair enough if the person is as good or better than the current commentator but given the AFL's history that would be highly questionable.
What happened to TV Stations and Radio stations being in charge of who they hire and fire given they pay the commentators wages not the AFL. With TV and radio it's all about the ratings and viewers/listeners that enables them to sell advertising.
Nah **** off AFL stick to stuffing up the game like you have and keep your noses out where they're not needed.
Im pretty sure the Eagles during COVID time smashed this.5 debutants for the Blues…wow. That has to be a record for an established team!
Expect 3 will be the emergencies, so probably 2 debutants.5 debutants for the Blues…wow. That has to be a record for an established team!
They don't have a choice given their injuries and Voss might rush them back next week against the Saints as they are still in Final contention which could backfire playing that many not fully fit players.whoaaaa
have Carlton basically waved the white flag on 2024?
If certain results go their way, in particular Freo rolling over to GWS and then to the Power which is very feasible, Blues can still make it I think if they beat the Saints in their final game even if they lose over the weekend.Expect 3 will be the emergencies, so probably 2 debutants.
Surely they play Gov forward.
Ive tipped WC on this basiswhoaaaa
have Carlton basically waved the white flag on 2024?
If you're fit and not playing for Carlton this week you're getting delistedLooking like Ashton Moir will debut for Carlton this weekend.