Opinion Non-Crows AFL 11

[Mutineer]

He is a better small/medium defender, sure. But not a better player overall.

Have it your way, I stated my case that currently he is the better player by position, you disagree...fine.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

Interesting story on The Sounding Board today about Ginnivan and Watson and their little side business they have going with 'Hokball'.

They had organised a private coaching clinic with ~40 kids, charging $65 for 45min of skills and then 15min meet and greet. This was scheduled for the Sunday morning just gone, with the Hawks B&F the night before. Anyway, a message is sent out to parents an hour before the clinic that it won't be going ahead as Ginnivan and Watson were 'sick'. Pretty disgraceful behaviour when they scheduled the clinic for this morning weeks out and knew the Hawks B&F was the previous night.

No issue with having a side business outside of footy, but if you are trying to market yourself to kids that idolise you, this isn't great for the brand. Very interesting to see how the Hawks go next year, a lot of fart sniffing going on over there.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

Nick Watson and Jack Ginnivan pulled out of a kids holiday coaching clinic the night after the BnF because they were "sick"

They'd be put in the electric chair at the AFC

Sorry, missed the earlier post on this!

 

[BunjiMC]

Have it your way, I stated my case that currently he is the better player by position, you disagree...fine.

Who would you pick right now. If a gf was being played tomorrow?

 

[Cromulant]

Who would you pick right now. If a gf was being played tomorrow?

Houston.

You only have to look at how toothless they were without him in the last month.

 

[Mutineer]

Who would you pick right now. If a gf was being played tomorrow?

Wouldn't that depend who you already had on your roster for their positions?

Over and out like I said you disagree...fine.

 

[VKCrow]

Whoosha back at eagles as head of football. Always liked him. Pyke creating his own boys club

 

[BunjiMC]

Wouldn't that depend who you already had on your roster for their positions?

Over and out like I said you disagree...fine.

But we are just talking about best player. Not just best defender?

Over and out like I said you disagree.....fine.

 

[moogerfooger]

Whoosha back at eagles as head of football. Always liked him. Pyke creating his own boys club

With boys like that, all power to him.

 

[Mutineer]

Say what?

$700 - 800K

Carlton forward Matt Owies is at risk of being out of the AFL completely in 2025 as the Blues prepare to turn to other small forward options.
Owies, who booted 33 goals in 23 games this season, is out of contract and exploring options at rival clubs, with the Blues seemingly prepared to lose him.

The 27-year-old has met with multiple clubs, including West Coast and Gold Coast, as the trade period begins to heat up.

Officials at rival clubs are expecting Owies’ asking price to be around $700,000-800,000 per season on a multi-year deal, but his management has not engaged in advanced talks with the clubs yet.

The Herald Sun understands Carlton won’t offer that to Owies and is yet to formally put forward an extension.

 

[whattagun07]

850 now is it?
The only figures reported are low 700s

I swear people bump contract numbers up by 50k every time its mentioned. Was the same with Betts, same with Rankine when we signed them.

 

[whattagun07]

850 now is it?
The only figures reported are low 700s

I swear people bump contract numbers up by 50k every time its mentioned. Was the same with Betts, same with Rankine when we signed them.

and same with ANB's age.
He will be 37 at the start of 2025 at this rate

 

[spenze]

That was my first thought, but there's no excuse for them to miss it.

Sure, go out and have a few drinks or whatever but you knew you had something on so don't go stupid.

I do recall Mods rocking up 2nd hand to a couple of junior clinics of mine back in the day.... but he still showed up

Der, single mums...like shooting fish in a barrel for Mods

 

[spenze]

Richmond fans screaming corruption that Jack Graham only got them and end of 2nd round pick

Sounds like fair value to me. Had very little interest and Richmond didn't want to keep him



This is from the Richmond board. I mean yeah, it's probably because Cumming had multiple suitors, got a six year deal on good money. While Graham got a 4 year mid-range deal at the only club interested.

You'd think they'd be high fiving that they got him any pick

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

Say what?

$700 - 800K

Carlton forward Matt Owies is at risk of being out of the AFL completely in 2025 as the Blues prepare to turn to other small forward options.
Owies, who booted 33 goals in 23 games this season, is out of contract and exploring options at rival clubs, with the Blues seemingly prepared to lose him.

The 27-year-old has met with multiple clubs, including West Coast and Gold Coast, as the trade period begins to heat up.

Officials at rival clubs are expecting Owies’ asking price to be around $700,000-800,000 per season on a multi-year deal, but his management has not engaged in advanced talks with the clubs yet.

The Herald Sun understands Carlton won’t offer that to Owies and is yet to formally put forward an extension.

No wonder he aint getting any takers, insane salary demand

 

[Cromulant]

Der, single mums...like shooting fish in a barrel for Mods

Single mum ??

Swing and a miss on both counts

Seriously, how hard is it to turn up to a coaching clinic that you knew about ??

 

[MarcusP2]

Single mum ??

Swing and a miss on both counts

Seriously, how hard is it to turn up to a coaching clinic that you knew about ??

He meant an abundance of single mums is why Mods would always turn up to clinics.

 

[Cromulant]

He meant an abundance of single mums is why Mods would always turn up to clinics.

Ahhh yep, derr indeed.

Mind you he wasn't the most engaged fella at those things, he went because the club paid him too

 

[spenze]

Interesting story on The Sounding Board today about Ginnivan and Watson and their little side business they have going with 'Hokball'.

They had organised a private coaching clinic with ~40 kids, charging $65 for 45min of skills and then 15min meet and greet. This was scheduled for the Sunday morning just gone, with the Hawks B&F the night before. Anyway, a message is sent out to parents an hour before the clinic that it won't be going ahead as Ginnivan and Watson were 'sick'. Pretty disgraceful behaviour when they scheduled the clinic for this morning weeks out and knew the Hawks B&F was the previous night.

No issue with having a side business outside of footy, but if you are trying to market yourself to kids that idolise you, this isn't great for the brand. Very interesting to see how the Hawks go next year, a lot of fart sniffing going on over there.

Fair crack mate I know it is popular to bash the Hawks small forwards like you're Laird describing "how Adelaide does stuff" but both of the boys are in hospital with severe Covid and that was the reason they couldn't attend the session on Saturday.














Wait, did I say "Covid", I meant "alcohol poisoning"

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Say what?

$700 - 800K

Carlton forward Matt Owies is at risk of being out of the AFL completely in 2025 as the Blues prepare to turn to other small forward options.
Owies, who booted 33 goals in 23 games this season, is out of contract and exploring options at rival clubs, with the Blues seemingly prepared to lose him.

The 27-year-old has met with multiple clubs, including West Coast and Gold Coast, as the trade period begins to heat up.

Officials at rival clubs are expecting Owies’ asking price to be around $700,000-800,000 per season on a multi-year deal, but his management has not engaged in advanced talks with the clubs yet.

The Herald Sun understands Carlton won’t offer that to Owies and is yet to formally put forward an extension.

Owies is GARBAGE, should be grateful he's anywhere near the system at all!

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Single mum ??

Swing and a miss on both counts

Seriously, how hard is it to turn up to a coaching clinic that you knew about ??

Would have been the brainchild of their management

The players would have been yeah, yeah sounds good without actually thinking it through. The dollars sound nice.

Never thought about it for a second afterwards. Had completely forgotten about it.

Management sends them a reminder about it through the week.

Oh shit

Yes, it is too late to cancel

Management cleverly made it a 10:30am start so that even if they have a few drinks the night before they'll be right to go. Wrong-o.

The messages between Watson and Ginnivan during the night before / morning after would be entertaining reading. Would have decided together to bail.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Owies is GARBAGE, should be grateful he's anywhere near the system at all!

I'd rather Murphy than Owies

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I'd rather Murphy than Owies

I would prefer to have 1 short on our list...

 

[fuic08]

Would have been the brainchild of their management

The players would have been yeah, yeah sounds good without actually thinking it through. The dollars sound nice.

Never thought about it for a second afterwards. Had completely forgotten about it.

Management sends them a reminder about it through the week.

Oh shit

Yes, it is too late to cancel

Management cleverly made it a 10:30am start so that even if they have a few drinks the night before they'll be right to go. Wrong-o.

The messages between Watson and Ginnivan during the night before / morning after would be entertaining reading. Would have decided together to bail.

A couple of young lads should be right to go by 10:30am after a couple quiet ones. Kids these days.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

A couple of young lads should be right to go by 10:30am after a couple quiet ones. Kids these days.

Exactly right

In fact I'd wager that there's never been an AFL player turn up sober to a morning clinic but they soldier on

A breathmint, sunglasses on.