Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVI

[Mootsy]

Lol, who loses a final by 10+ goals

Oh

The Lions by the looks of it.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

He will never be what he could have been as his groin injury has to be managed. Good player but just not the super star he could have been.

Agreed, I still think he’s one of the better forwards in the comp. The groin injury robbed him of his set shot routine that he fixed the year before he got injured. But he’s still a gun around the ground and generates 4 shots minimum which is more than most forwards can say in finals.

 

[The Airing of Grievances]

So we're down to two teams I hate and one that I'm sick of. Great.

Yep no feel good stories this year to compensate for our absence. Don't love the Cats but either Swans or Collingwood winning sucks bigtime. No consolation that either would objectively be admirable winners.

 

[katana]

Yeah, he's ok. Capable of brilliance, but just average overall. Wasn't as big a loss for us as I feared at the time. 28 now, should be tearing the comp apart.

on his 2014-17 trajectory, he's the most valuable player in the comp by now. agree its gone wrong, i think a lot of the blame is worsfold and our management. can we not look fondly on his good years for us?

A procession for Geelong would not be a good thing. This game feels to me like a bit of old overly conservative Geelong being made to look good by a poor opponent.

curious what you actually mean by this. geelong kept it tight, crushed brisbane's hopes and then ripped them when they had freedom.

 

[Mootsy]

Honestly, I can just picture the commentary sitting slumped on a sofa half asleep as they talk…

Most of the last quarter had zero play by play calling, apart from the odd intervention by BT, lol.
Oh well..

No exciting, technical, play by play stuff. Course not.

 

[scythe]

Two weeks of fantastic football, followed by this snoozefest. Hope Sydney comes through in single digits..

 

[Nifft]

Joe is like the opposite of a rabbit’s foot. Rabbit’s ear?

 

[BrunoV]

on his 2014-17 trajectory, he's the most valuable player in the comp by now. agree its gone wrong, i think a lot of the blame is worsfold and our management. can we not look fondly on his good years for us?

curious what you actually mean by this. geelong kept it tight, crushed brisbane's hopes and then ripped them when they had freedom.

The game had no real pressure.

Cats have a habit of starting poorly.

They should win the GF in a canter but they can fall asleep and lack intensity.

 

[Zach Package]

Danger basically cannot get through an interview without shouting our Geelong’s strength and conditioning guys this year.

I think the fact that they somehow just keep everyone shredded, fighting fit and recovering at superhuman speed is not talked about nearly enough.

To be honest it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they somehow got Holmes up for next week, such is their record.

 

[windyhill]

Cats are doing it that easy, thought I would check to see how far off the biggest winning margin for a Prelim.

Still about 10 goals off, so no chance of catching up to the mighty Bombers 133 pt drubbing of Collingwood in '84.

Ahhh, the good old days!

Can confirm, was there. Top of the sir Kenneth Luke stand. Perfect view of the collingwood “army” leaving @ halftime.

 

[katana]

The game had no real pressure.

Cats have a habit of starting poorly.

They should win the GF in a canter but they can fall asleep and lack intensity.

fair. geelong's last GF wasn't lost due to a poor start, only thing i'd say.

i think they'll be up for a struggle against whoever they play.

 

[Albertross]

Remember that year of 2015 when Geelong missed the finals and everyone said they were on the decline?

Maybe we've been chasing the wrong Scott brother to coach us.

 

[Doss]

Can confirm, was there. Top of the sir Kenneth Luke stand. Perfect view of the collingwood “army” leaving @ halftime.

28.6, we kicked that day. An apt indication of the amount of pressure Collingwood were putting on us.

 

[BrunoV]

fair. geelong's last GF wasn't lost due to a poor start, only thing i'd say.

The start of their second half was reminiscent of the 2005 Champions League final.

Took to the field in a coma to start the second half.

 

[katana]

The start of their second half was reminiscent of the 2005 Champions League final.

Took to the field in a coma to start the second half.

yeah i don't think this is the same team.

current geelong has that game iced by mid-3rd-quarter. cameron and stengle is a big change for them. 2020 forward line was garbage.

 

[windyhill]

28.6, we kicked that day. An apt indication of the amount of pressure Collingwood were putting on us.

Could barely miss, the next week though !!

 

[The Prosecutor]

Joel Selwood: 16 season, 40 finals
Cale Hooker

26

Cale Hooker

Age

36

Ht

198cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.8

4star

MG

213.6

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

0.8

1star

MG

107.0

2star

D

14.6

4star

K

3.2

2star

HB

11.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

: 13 seasons, 3 finals

 

[Doss]

Could barely miss, the next week though !!

We had one more scoring shot in the GF yet our score was 69 points lower.

 

[Albertross]

We had one more scoring shot in the GF yet our score was 69 points lower.

But that last qtr was sublime! Went to '83 as a 14 y/o ☹, missed out in '84, but even though I wasn't there in person, it was the greatest moment as a Bombers fan. Can't tell you how many times I've watched that replay. They say you always remember your first time...well, I remember this game more than that!

 

[Doss]

But that last qtr was sublime! Went to '83 as a 14 y/o ☹, missed out in '84, but even though I wasn't there in person, it was the greatest moment as a Bombers fan. Can't tell you how many times I've watched that replay. They say you always remember your first time...well, I remember this game more than that!

Greatest quarter in the club’s history.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Danger basically cannot get through an interview without shouting our Geelong’s strength and conditioning guys this year.

I think the fact that they somehow just keep everyone shredded, fighting fit and recovering at superhuman speed is not talked about nearly enough.

To be honest it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they somehow got Holmes up for next week, such is their record.

Robinson and Dank taught them the ways and they’ve never looked back.

 

[Albertross]

Joel Selwood: 16 season, 40 finals
Cale Hooker: 13 seasons, 3 finals

That's not really an accurate data sample. It would have been more accurate to use the club's record instead. Players can miss finals due to injury, the club can't.

Hooker (Essendon) is missing 3 seasons on Selwood (Geelong), how do I know that in those 3 missing years, Essendon didn't compete in 37 finals to even the count?

 

[Doss]

That's not really an accurate data sample. It would have been more accurate to use the club's record instead. Players can miss finals due to injury, the club can't.

Hooker (Essendon) is missing 3 seasons on Selwood (Geelong), how do I know that in those 3 missing years, Essendon didn't compete in 37 finals to even the count?

I know Essendon like to buck conventional norms but even we would find it difficult to play 37 finals in three seasons.

Selwood's never missed a final in his entire time at Geelong, which is insane in itself.

Essendon played in six finals while Hooker was at the club; he only played in the 2009, 2014 and 2019 finals though.

Wasn't selected in 2011 or 2021, and was injured in 2017.

 

[justlookingaround]

No point comparing us to Geelong, we are already the Geelong of finishing 8-14th

 

[Albertross]

I know Essendon like to buck conventional norms but even we would find it difficult to play 37 finals in three seasons.

Selwood's never missed a final in his entire time at Geelong, which is insane in itself.

Essendon played in six finals while Hooker was at the club; he only played in the 2009, 2014 and 2019 finals though.

Wasn't selected in 2011 or 2021, and was injured in 2017.

Oh Doss, I'm a nuffie, but I'm not a Facebook nuffie!