Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVI

[fishardansin]

The only thing I can think of in favour of McCartin in that incident is that he's flushed himself, that it wasn't the sort of hit that means anything to him long term / that it's more just a strange looking incident.

It's not necessarily the biggest punches that result in the clean KO. My understanding is that it's got something to do with the angle the head and neck twist at, once punched, which closes blood flow resulting in that dramatic collapse. I'm not talking about every KO but those ones that don't seem to hit as hard as the other punches that land and take an otherwise fit fighter straight down.

Could this have happened to McCartin? His head was twisted almost right around, almost like he was sleeping on his stomach, at the point of impact? It wasn't really a skull rattler.

But then I hear that clip of him with Garry Lyon and all I could really think was that he's done a bit of gymnastics with his medical advice. Not that I believe the basic claim but, in any event, increased susceptibility to concussion, as a medical diagnosis, isn't really the issue where the main concern is the cumulative impact of big head knocks. Not to mention that Paddy is already clearly more susceptible to concussion.

That's called rattling the cage. The one you don't see coming.

 

[fishardansin]

at this stage north really needs to just cut his contract because he’s going to keep making mistakes & not actually change his pattern of behaviour

... I just hope his girlfriend isn't pregnant.

 

[jannissary]

... I just hope his girlfriend isn't pregnant.

we'll find out soon, i think.

not good though, i feel bad for all the people that've been hurt

 

[Nicholas61]

If Paddy was a boxer he may have been suspended for long periods.

Concussion rules are much tougher in Boxing. Wouldn't be surprised if football codes adopt something similar. If they don't, the lawsuits will increase.

for example, a couple of Boxing Vic rules:

Medical diagnosed concussion: 30 day minimum non-fight period, successive concussions 60 then 90 days.
Four knockouts, technical knockouts or concussions (or any combination of each) in 12 months will result in a 12 month suspension.

Also with boxing you aren't copping flying knees or hips to the temple from guys coming off a 40 or 50 metre run up. Was speaking to a guy who played WAFL yesteryear - reckons back then you were instructed to turn around if the ball went over your head and get ready for a crumb - it was considered nuts to run with the flight of the ball.

 

[jannissary]

sam walsh

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Sam Walsh

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84kg

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3.2

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3.4

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26.2

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15.4

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10.8

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6.0

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3.2

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4.8

5star

back for carlton, will be a big worry for the future when we vs them

 

[Lore]

 

[Old Campaigner]

I didn't realise that's how he got his job lol

Does make sense though, I doubt he could afford enough cocaine to bribe his way into the position

 

[ant555]

‘They break you’: Simple trait has turned ‘Saints chain gang’ into a genuine AFL threat

Revealed: The Ross Lyon change that turned ‘Saints chain gang’ into a genuine AFL threat

www.foxsports.com.au

Smart coach working with what he has on the list.
Still think our endurance profile could be a bit better.
McRae doing the same at the Pies.

 

[faible]

‘They break you’: Simple trait has turned ‘Saints chain gang’ into a genuine AFL threat

Revealed: The Ross Lyon change that turned ‘Saints chain gang’ into a genuine AFL threat

www.foxsports.com.au

Smart coach working with what he has on the list.
Still think our endurance profile could be a bit better.
McRae doing the same at the Pies.

I think our drafting over the last three years has been looking much better from a running capacity POV. Aside from Munkara I don't think anyone has been an actively bad aerobic runner of late, they're all average - good with Cox in the elite category for a KPP from memory.

I also think the simplified structure has lesser running demands and we're seeing that we're not getting outworked or run ragged late in games. Giving up a huge lead to the Saints at the start cost us at the back-end, and with Collingwood being a similarly hard-running side I hope they'd look to plug that issue for Anzac Day and see how we hold up at the back end of the game.

 

[ghostdog]

Not sure if this has been mentioned anywhere; Pies are getting old.
Adams 29
Mitchell 29
Crisp 29
Elliot 30
Mihocek 30
Sidebottom 32
Cox 32
Pendlebury 35

Forwardline and midfield

 

[Lore]

Not sure if this has been mentioned anywhere; Pies are getting old.
Adams 29
Mitchell 29
Crisp 29
Elliot 30
Mihocek 30
Sidebottom 32
Cox 32
Pendlebury 35

Forwardline and midfield

So were Geelong last year, and again this year...

They do have more mids and forwards in the next age bracket too, if that's everyone over 28 then they're doing okay.

 

[jannissary]

‘They break you’: Simple trait has turned ‘Saints chain gang’ into a genuine AFL threat

Revealed: The Ross Lyon change that turned ‘Saints chain gang’ into a genuine AFL threat

www.foxsports.com.au

Smart coach working with what he has on the list.
Still think our endurance profile could be a bit better.
McRae doing the same at the Pies.

interesting read, thanks for sharing. i think mcrae is someone who’s doing the best with his list better than any other club. one of the most interesting things last year was how the club handled broody grundy breaking down. obviously he’s a good ruckman but they played much better without him.

my step dad is a die hard pies fan & believed that success would lie with using mason cox more up the ground while darcy cameron develops (this was when cameron first came to the club) and i think the latter end of 2022 really showed that the pies didn’t need grundy to win.

i think that while our list is decent we do lack some consistent forwards when peter wright goes down.

 

[boncer34]

North not sacking TT.

 

[Lore]

North not sacking TT.

With Clarkson being accused of not supporting Indigenous players, they're kind of stuck. And their MO lately is to back in their people come hell or high water (or bad press). Wonder if they'll start taking gambling money again now that they're off their moral high horse

 

[MiguelM]

FWIW Go Crows!

 

[Beerfish]

FWIW Go Crows!

Yep. Let's get the weekend off to a good start Cows!

 

[Happyskeret]

Gather around folks it’s Gather Round.

 

[jmoo wan]

Gather round sounds like a placeholder name the consultants came up with intending to replace it with something less shit. like Love Day.

 

[Zach Package]

Brackets McGovern a late subtraction from the Crows Bloos game.

Good one for those with a BODMAS kink.

 

[Beerfish]

Don't mind that cows strip at all.

 

[Beerfish]

wowee tex goes bang

 

[TheGrizz]

Darcy Fogarty

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Darcy Fogarty

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25

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100kg

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8.5

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5.7

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2.8

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1.2

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6.3

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4.0

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2.3

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3.0

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2.3

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1.0

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8.0

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5.4

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2.6

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M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.0

4star

might have the sweetest set shot I ever seen.

 

[TheUnicorn]

Fack Carlton

 

[dank420_]

Da daa da, da daaaaaa

 

[windyhill]

****ing glorious